I want to build a new computer.
My actual system can't get any better.
So I want to build an AM3 socket computer.
I don't have big budget so I thought I'd buy a motherboard which can use double and quadruple core processors. (I can buy cheap x2 processor and after some time better processor with 4 cores)
So recommend me a motherboard like I said.

I've found this CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 / 2.8 GHz - Socket AM3 - L2 2 MB ( 2 x 1 MB ) - Box
It would be a lot faster than my actual so I don't really need a better one atm.

RAM memory I'll buy 2048MB / 1600MHz / DDR3 because of low budget and I'll expand it in future.

Power supply... I don't know how much power it should have to last for some years when I'll make this comp faster (cpu, gfx card...)
So recomend me a power supply.

And GFX card...
I have completely no idea which is good, fast etc...
Ati or nVidia I don't really care. Must be low budget and reasonably good.

And I forgot about HDD
I really don't need HUGE disk.
It HAVE TO be unbreakable (I mean to don't broke by itself)
I'd rather buy second disk if I'll need more space so ~250GB is my prefer.

No doubt in my mind at all, don't even have to think

MSI GD-70



as for graphics card, you have many choices. What's your budget? Around $100?

First, I'd definitely look at getting used, as I haven't had a single problem with any used computer hardware I've bought as long as it's from a trustworthy member.

9600gt or 9800gt is good budget nvidia card
4830 or 4850 is good budget ATI card
below that, 4670 will be your best bet.

PSU - if you ever plan on having MORE THAN ONE graphics card, I'd recommend a Corsair 650TX or 750TX
If only 1, a corsair 450vx. Do not buy a cheap brand like Logisys, they run the risk of killing everything if they die. Corsairs are very reliable (as are most antecs, and seasonics)

Thanks for reply
I've got Radeon 9600 but it's AGP. Do I need PCI-Express gfx card for my new comp?
If I could stay with my old ati it would be good for my budget.
I don't have specified budget on any sort of stuff for computer.
I just want to spend not much money on it
Just have to have specs like I said in first post

yeah AGP won't work with the mobo. If you think a 9600 is good for you, then you probably won't need that mobo ... or a dedicated video card thinking about it

I'd go with this
MSI 785GTM-E45 - the onboard HD4200 should be enough for you. (according to this article, it's 3 tiers above the radeon 9600
Corsair 450vx PSU - will hold it's own if you decide to add a higher end video card

But this is AM2 mobo. I want AM3 so I'll buy some used pci-e gfx for am3 mobo.
I'm building this comp from my own money that I earn so it's not a problem that it's going to be more expensive.
I will have to wait a little longer (month or two) to buy all stuff
Do 550W PSU will go with 4core processor with single gfx card? (in future I don't want to buy another psu because I want to change cpu)

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But this is AM2 mobo. I want AM3 so I'll buy some used pci-e gfx for am3 mobo.
I'm building this comp from my own money that I earn so it's not a problem that it's going to be more expensive.
I will have to wait a little longer (month or two) to buy all stuff
Do 550W PSU will go with 4core processor with single gfx card? (in future I don't want to buy another psu because I want to change cpu)

My bad, the E51 is am3 (or E65)

550 watts will be fine for quad + gpu + 1-3 hard drives. (550vx should do, as well) but If you really want to be future proof the 650tx shouldn't be too much more money.

The newest cards (5870/5850/5830 for ATI; GTX 285/275/260 for NVidia) Only use around 150-250 watts when under 100% load.

I've found cheap'n'old SAPPHIRE RADEON 4550 512MB PCIE (new)
IMO it should be enough.
I don't really play games (only lfs but it's simulator )
I need this system for editing photos, maybe video editing too so I don't need brand new series gpu right?

Well the onboard video should be enough for LFS, probably won't even need to have a dedicated video card for it. I'd say try it without buying the card first, and if you need more FPS, buy the 4550

Ok then so I know what's all about with gfx.
What do you think about this mobo ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 DDR3 RAID/CROSS FIRE ATX
It doesn't have integrated gfx but it's not a problem
It cost not much so I like it

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Ok then so I know what's all about with gfx.
What do you think about this mobo ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 DDR3 RAID/CROSS FIRE ATX
It doesn't have integrated gfx but it's not a problem
It cost not much so I like it

Hm, it's $50 more than the 785gm-E51 over here, and its brown haha!

it's a decent board, but considering what you're going to be doing I'd still go with the 785 with onboard video. You won't be going wrong with either of 'em, but you'd be spending more on the mobo itself and the graphics card you'll need since no onboard.

then how about this GIGABYTE GA-785GMT-USB3 AMD785G
I chose this because of this Dual Channel DDR3 1800+ and this PCI-EX 2.0 x16

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then how about this GIGABYTE GA-785GMT-USB3 AMD785G
I chose this because of this Dual Channel DDR3 1800+ and this PCI-EX 2.0 x16

Perfect

if you havent decided yet, i am VERY satisfied with my ATI radeon HD 5770 gfx card.....and before i had that, i had an NVIDIA geforce gt 220, which was pretty good, but not great

i have decided to not buy gfx card ;-)
all i need to know more is which hdd should i choose.
and im not really sure about that mobo. it might be not enough so advices will be helpful :-)

ime useless from now on

Quote from diNOSaur :

i have decided to not buy gfx card ;-)
all i need to know more is which hdd should i choose.
and im not really sure about that mobo. it might be not enough so advices will be helpful :-)

On board graphics will not be good enough for LFS, I can't beleive you are not going to get a video card. IF you are lucky you will be able to play on minimum settings, on your own. The more cars racing and at places like south city the shittier it will get.

Plus you wont be able to play any other games.

Any SATA2 hard drive will be fine, you can get a 250/500G pretty cheap now. Nothing is unbreakable btw.

For playing any gaming a real-graphics card is essential.
Look for a used ati 4890 for example(be sure your power-supply is can handle it!)
Of get a ati 5750 for example.

If you don't have the money to buy such a card(or the nvidia equivalent) and matching power-supply, you just got to save some more money sorry.

Also remember, buying mid-range hardware usually gives by far the best performance for the buck. Just take a look at how expensive those small disks are for example.

Little change of plan happend
I've decided to buy ASUS M4A89GTD PRO
I'll stay with onboard gfx card because I play only lfs so I won't need better gfx and I'll stay on lower budget.
Is it worth to buy ram with lower CL?
I was thinking about 2000MHz CL9. What will give me CL8?

You worry about memory latencies but keep the onboards GFX? Get a cheap PCi-E card, its a good investement. Onboard GFX may even be too slow to play HD vids.

I want to buy parts what pc needs just to start and I don't want to buy some part which I will have to change in some time (like ram memory for example).
Now I've got radeon 9600. Is it better than onboard gfx in mobo I wan't to buy?
If onboard gfx is not worse than my actual gfx card I want to stay with it because of low budget and then buy some proper gfx instead of buying "any" card and then upgrading it. I hope it's clear.

I need help with choosing HDD because I don't know anything about them.

Radeon 9600 is an AGP card, it won't even fit in that motherboard. You need a PCIe card.

It looks like it's not so clear

About the HDD, wether you be a average computer user or amateur. 80gb would be minimum in my eyes. When ur buyng it, make sure its 7200rpm and has 16mb/32mb cache size. But overall, there shouldnt be any major difference between them. The more u pay, the more u get - in matter of capitacity and quality. But cheap ones will do the work too.

About the videocard, get somekind of simple Nvidia 8xxx series card. 8500 or 8600. Theyr enough good, i had 8600GT 512mb with radiator cooling and it was silent and i could even play gta iv with it. On low/med settings but it works, so there you would have a little headroom. LFS should run fine too, even with enbseries and stuff if your planning to use it.

I ordered this rig....

Is that well or should i change something?

Gigabyte P55A UD5
Intel i5 750 boxed
HIS HD5770 1gig
2x2048mb G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 CL9
Win 7 Prof.

Need support from you guys
What do you think about this?