Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

Sure is Ive been saying this for years. Once your in the racing seat, and fighting hard for position, all the moaning thats generated here, is at once totally irrelevant. All that matters is overtaking that car

someone else that agrees with me! finally.

i got kicked out of a server for not letting someone overtake me :S haha

Quote from patchver :

but the whole kick/ban thing uh always worked.. did on the old S1, so why not now...

It really doesn't. People will kick/ban any vote that is raised if they are annoyed with the general standard of racing, they don't get to review the incident in question before voting - infact they've only 30 seconds or so to make a decision on whether to kick or ban. So generally votes get carried through if people are annoyed with their last few races, and that often has nothing at all to do with the driver being voted on.

Kick/Ban is by far the worst model of server moderation.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I agree tbh. Once server admins started introducing points systems that granted access to certain cars (and servers) it turned me off hugely.

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But the alternative was usually actively-adminned servers that ran the same ****ing combos night after night. So if you don't want to grind points on the software-run servers your only choice is to race on a handful of combos that get boring quickly.

These are both extremely valid points, and they're the same points which have remained valid ever since servers started introducing these 3rd party control systems.

Unfortunately no one system to suite every need is possible, what is needed is variety. S2 certainly has variety in servers, and there are plenty of different server control systems, and non-controlled servers around.

The problem is that there aren't enough players to fill them all and generally speaking the same few servers stay busy night after night, so if you want variety as a regular player your best bet is to go on the managed servers where you can drive on different tracks and work your way up to different cars.

One good way to find pick up and play racing is to follow leagues, they'll often set up servers with their next combo and often times these will be public so you don't have to join the league if you can't commit to a day/time. This allows league racers to practice in real races, so it's win win all round.

As a server admin you can do no right. Accidents tend to get blamed on you for running a server full of crashers ... by the very users who are crashing. Nothing you do as a server operator will win you any friends, it's a pretty thankless task that costs you money for hosting.

This doesnt stop plenty of people running servers though and there are plenty of S2 server to choose from, if don't mind racing with a comparatively small field of cars you can pretty much get a race going with just a handful of people in a server and others will soon come.

For big grids though you'll need to earn those licence points and deliver those PB's. They do come with practice, and from experience I can tell you also that they fade away without it !

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I don't get what you're trying to say?

Kev what do you know, you're only some sub-par web developer gone bassist.

P.S. We need to have another chat again I think. Discuss all the penis' you've been around to get web development jobs.. and also totally compare some things. (I swear, mine's grown again!)

cool, im gonna eat mayonase.

Quote from patchver :

cool, im gonna eat mayonase.

Whats mayonase? iv had mayonnaise before but what is this.

Quote from 91mason91 :

Whats mayonase? iv had mayonnaise before but what is this.

wow. I've never actually seen anyone get anally retentive over the spelling of mayonnaise before.

The internet is full of new experiences

Quote from th84 :

He's saying who the *&^$ are you to talk. You haven't raced online in over a year which makes you unqualified to speak about anything LFS related.

Geez, shall I wipe your ass too?

hahaha that's sig worthy

Quote from th84 :

He's saying who the *&^$ are you to talk. You haven't raced online in over a year which makes you unqualified to speak about anything LFS related.

Geez, shall I wipe your ass too?

Haha. Hello darling, I've missed you too.

From what I've seen LFS hasn't changed in approx. 2 years so my experience is still relevant.

Quote from patchver :

Hello all, its really nice to be back on the LFS Scene... some of you might remember me from lfs.. used to be in the >>T5<< server alot.. my old name was 223MadPatch.

I kinda do. I was in T5 for a minute

Quote from Sueycide_FD :

I kinda do. I was in T5 for a minute

wheyy geddon..

takin me longer than i thought to get s2.. student finance england = c**t's

should be able to invest tomoro.

on the plus side.. you can live on a tin of beans and a packet of noodles.