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Logitech FFeedback & others ! improve steering acuracy (hardware)
Hello,
i had also the problem that i "felt" something it's wrong in LFS(also Richard Burns, GTR). The behaviour of the car in the corner, while breaking and straight run was always another one.
I always was thinking it's the calibration or the software, but everything seems to be alright.
yesterday i opened the wheel and i was looking if something it's damaged. Nothing..illepall
But: Eureka!
At the end of the wheel axis is the angle encoder which gives the angle information to the software. (red circle)

It has something like a nose at the bottom, which is not fixed by screews, just pluged in a groove on the chassis. (the arrows)

The nose is smaller than the groove, so it has lateral space in the groove.
The RESULT: depending on the last move (right or left) the aberrance in the steering could be about few degrees. I don't have to wonder why i'm crashing or touching walls or fly over curbs.

I cut and put some sheets of aluminium from the chewing gum with a little glue in the groove so the nose hasn't any lateral space more.
I improved my time in RBurns Rally immediately at the first try.
The first test in LFS - BMW Sauber / standard setup / Blackwood:
The car doesn't dance at maximum speed after the first corner (on the straightpart under the bridge) !

Please NOTE: open and modify your wheel only if can or are able to. Maybe you loose the warranty...The Wingman Formula Force GP has 4 screws on the upper side (2 under the cover) and 4 and the bottom. The axis is fixed also by 2 screws.
Don't put glue on the nose, make only the groove to have the same width like the nose. At the end the angle encoder has to stay vertical, and don't change the deep of the groove.

Maybe have the wheels from other manufacturer the same problem...

Happy Racing
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...How the hell did you notice that.??LoL.!! Well, I'm glad you did cos I've just took my wheel apart and noticed exactly the same thing.the groove is wider than the nose... I got my loctite out and a juicy fruit wrapper to hand so here goes... Time for some 'width adjustment'.!! I'll post back when I'm done to let you know if it worked for me as it indeed did for you.Aight.. :rally_dri
I also have the formula force GP wheel. So i will give it a go when i get home from work!

Have any of you found that the actual wheel itself can move up and down in it's holder atall?? Or is it just me!!

Cheers

Quote from CrazyBrit :I also have the formula force GP wheel. So i will give it a go when i get home from work!

Have any of you found that the actual wheel itself can move up and down in it's holder atall?? Or is it just me!!

Cheers


I find there is a little bit of play between the wheel and its casing , personally it doesnt really bother me.ForceFeedback wouldn't be able to do it's job properly if the whole unit was rigid I wouldnt have thought... What I know about FF Hardware though is questionable..LoL.!! :davosmili
Well tamarillo I gotta hand it to you for making your discovery concerning the lateral space around the angle encoder and for photographing the parts in question in order to possibly help other Formula Force GP users in the LFS community who would otherwise have remained oblivious to this matter.You r0ck dude.Thank You.

I'm pleased to post that after adjusting the groove width with a bit of glue and a small cut of firm (but thin) cardboard*** , reassembling the wheel and running a few short tests with LFS , GTR 2 demo and Flatout , in all 3 cases I noticed almost immediately how much more accurately the wheel responded in the games aNd enabled me to lap smoother and quicker than I have been previously.So in my own experience this has worked out just as it did for tamarillo making me one happy bloke who is now gonna waste the rest of his day rediscovering LFS all over again.!! sWeEt.!!! :lfs:
I'd seriously recommend that all owners of this wheel who are confident enough to open up their wheel do this small modification.YOU will notice an improvement in the wheels feel ingame pretty much straight away I'm sure of it just as tamarillo and myself did when we tested out.. :auto: Wicked.!! :eclipseeh

***The juicy fruit wrap didnt do it for me.!!!Lol.!!
I have ownd two Formula Force GP wheels and found them to be good base wheels, I just got the EX version to replace it, but now my steering feel complety differnt even though the EX is like 90% the same as the GP, But I can't find the Wheel profiler and game options that it used to be

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