Nobody enjoys having less money. But, even though my country isn't explicitly mentioned, it works similarily as those that are, let me tell you what taxes are, at least to me:
Taxes are not my governement stealing my money. Taxes (and other fees) are what I pay to have a functioning infrastructure, healthcare and pension. Thus, I don't begrudge having less money, but rather enjoy having not to worry about affording healthcare, or ending up poor and homeless once I cannot work anymore.
I hate debt, so the answer for me is no and no. Clearly I don't have much say in how things are done in my country.
Of course, Bernie Sanders would increase our national debt anyways if he had his way.
I'm also curious what people from some of the listed counties above would say.
Personally, I think everybody should get X dollars every month, regardless of income, and taxes should be raised on those who earn in the top 10%, and all other safety net programs (other than Social Security) should be eliminated.
Incentive to work remains, and welfare is maintained and more fair to everybody.
To be honest, the US economic system in which you create cash through your federal reserve is so retarded that anyone in power would increase your national debt, so really there isn't any point naming a certain individual. Your system is set up to be that way.
It's totally unsustainable and it really doesn't make any sense. There are 3rd world countries that are literally in a fraction of the debt that you're in, yet they are still massively underdeveloped. What a strange world we live in.
Who in their right mind is happy about being taxed - any amount?
But I think it's a relative term, being taxed too much that is. See in the Scandinavian countries they get immediate self benefit from that sort of taxation. We can't do that here. They get a very big bang for their buck too. And again, we couldn't do that even if we paid on average twice as much as they do in taxes.
But then again the economic stimulus that gets lost through tax increases isn't that big of a factor for them.
Sanders..... LOL let's go ahead and pretend this moron has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected...Liberal policies don't work here. We are heavily individualistic by nature. We have an entrepreneurial spirit that doesn't work well in a highly regulated environment. And we already have generation of people stuck in the poverty level due to mis-managed social welfare. That would only increase - by a lot if Sanders somehow became President. If Sanders decides to Tax the rich corporations or whatever, they'll simply move. Same if they taxed the rich. Besides, why should you punish success? Doesn't doing that sort of kill off the incentive to succeed? So guess who they can tax that can't really afford to take themselves or their assets out of the country? The middle class. Or what's left of it. Now if we'd quit slinging money out to all these countries that hate us, stop borrowing money to give aid to nations that seem to think they're oh so much better than us, then the money saved from that might could go to giving American college kids free tuition..... til of course the higher education mafia decided to raise the price of tuition.
Plus, he wants to increase the size of the government by something like 40%. Is this guy on drugs? Where does he think the money'll come from? The tooth fairy?
I totally agree. The systems aren't exactly the same, but so similar it makes little difference and has the same effect, just at a slower pace. It still has the same detrimental effect on the majority of us.
This is exactly the point I was trying to make though. The one candidate named in the post I was replying to, that will not prioritise the interests of the bankers, the banks, the major global corporations depleting common resources at an unsustainable level and the elite that are 'too big to fail', is made out to be unelectable because he will increase national debt.
Too many people are easily brainwashed by sound bites when they don't actually understand how things work to any meaningful degree. This is being proven by the backing Trump is getting and also by the working class in this country that voted Conservative buying into the hugely biased right wing media that they're more 'fiscally responsible' than Labour, simply because they were unfortunate enough to be governing through the global financial crisis. They actually managed to convince a large enough percentage of this country that the Labour government caused the global financial crisis. It's scary how people just believe it and then when they're ask to justify why they think this, they regurgitate the same sound bites you read from these biased sources or from misleading politicians who want power. So many people blindly accept what they read when it's either misleading or simply not true.
No, People are voting for Trump because it is a protest against the current system in the US. Ron Paul got destroyed by trying to follow the 'SYSTEM'. Trump is giving a possibility of changing the current system and order.
I think you'll find that people in the US are bright enough to realise how much their system sucks and, as they cannot do anything else, will vote for Trump with the possibility that he will change things.
It won't happen but I understand the pathetic desire to restore democracy to the US.
Oooh a protest. Yes, absolutely genius. Vote for an absolute moron as a protest. It'll be a real win for the people if he becomes president. Definitely. You really think Trump will change the current system in the US? It works in his favour. Sanders is far more likely to change the system. To seriously suggest Trump will want to change things and restore 'democracy' to the US, is so naive, it's loopy.
From what I've seen the people aren't bright enough to realise who is more likely to change the system if they get behind them. People think that because Trump owns a lot of assets and runs businesses (despite being in mountains of debt himself), the economy will be in safer hands. This is incredibly stupid. A country's economy is completely different to running a business or a household budget.
Close, but no cigar.in fact, pretty damned close.
" is made out to be unelectable because he will increase national debt." Those clowns all increase national debt. That's not why he's inelectable though. There's more to it than that. Oh yeah, he'll increase the debt by leaps and bounds - if he had left leaning houses of Congress too. But there would be enough conservatives in there to shoot down most of pie in the sky ideals. No. he has other issues he needs to address. Like... How would Sanders do on the world stage? He's not a tough guy and our good friends Iran and N. Korea would take full advantage of that.
Trade deals? What does that little socialist know about free trade? Especially seeing how he wants to regulate it to death. If that's such a good idea, then why are so many industries moving from California, where overregulation is king, to Texas where there are no such restrictions? Even with the oil falling, we're still able to function quite well. He's a big fan of raising the minimum wage to where it becomes a working wage. Meaning you can actually live off it. That looks pretty good on the surface. "Looks"... If that is done, where you can now make as much money flipping burgers as what you can make doing heavy construction, skilled labor or entry-level financial, where will the incentive be for people to pursue those careers when they make the same amount of money just by asking us if we want fries with that? And again blanket social policy WILL NOT WORK in the USofA. And that's what he's pretty much based his platform on.
Socialized medicine.... What a crock.... How many of you Eurotypes look at the prospect of going to jail for income tax evasion if you can't afford health care? Yeah. That's our version of socialized medicine.
No better service, no real affordability, just a law saying you have to have insurance. And they will penalize your income if you can't afford it. Doesn't that make sense? And forget about subsidies. The subsidize crap is pretty much a lie. I can go on all day about how big a mess Obamacare is here.
Sanders wants to scrap Obama crae with a single pay system. Sounds good to you realize what that payment is going to be and of course he'll still rely on the income tax punishment as a way to enforce that and it really won't do a damned thing as far as improving healthcare.
Sanders and Trump.... You know we were all taught as kids to know B.S. when we see it. Did people forget that somehow?
No. he's right. That's why Sanders and Trump and to a lesser extent Ted Cruz have the support they have. They aren't "establishment" politicians and our establishment politicians have become stagnated and for the most part, out of touch with the people they are supposed to represent.
Like I'm a conservative. What the hell do I care about two homos getting married? That's not any of my business - or the government's. How about finding ways to rebuild the infrastructure instead? Maybe if Trump would use all that imaginary money on building some stupid wall that won't work, he could propose using that cash to repair and maintain all those bridges and dams we built 100 years ago?
At least if I vote for an MP or a Party in NZ that vote is counted. Clearly in the US, Criminals are supported by the system to be protected from their crimes,and in fact be appointed President of your fair country. And your vote is meaningless, either it's ignored or changed.
"The elites will kill the GOP with shenanigans of that nature but that may be a price they are willing to pay to remain in power. Another four years under Clinton with their machinery still in place may be preferable to them to a Republican win by Donald Trump which returns power to the American people.
They don’t care about this country. Their governance demonstrates that reality most vividly. The fact that Hillary Clinton is still running for president rather than rotting in a cell somewhere is proof that this government is above the people and no longer accountable."
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You really think Trump will change the current system in the US? It works in his favour. Sanders is far more likely to change the system. To seriously suggest Trump will want to change things and restore 'democracy' to the US, is so naive, it's loopy. 
