Quote from sileighty :

well i havent played gran turismo 4 in a real long time but off the top of my head i will never forget deep forest raceway or trial mountain. and ONCE again. touge RACING is meant to be RACED. drifting is just really fun to do in the mountains which is why i personally want it but i will definitely be racing on the tracks too if we get them. this is not a drifting request its just a track request for everyone... and no none of you ever said that you refuse to acknowledge drifting but ive noticed that most people on this forum do and with your attitude of drifting doesnt deserve anything i get the feeling that you are like this too. but ONCE again, TOUGE IS MEANT TO BE RACED. this is not by any means a drifting request. i dont wanna say it again. the guy who started this thread does not know anything about touge and just watches initial d which is why he named it mountain drifting.

I appreciate the difference between touge and drifting. However, GT4 does not have a real mountain track.

Also, please could someone buy this dude a new keyboard? It seems like his caps lock key needs repairs.

Quote from sileighty :

and of course cars were meant for transportation at first but then people started racing them. people were racing cars as early as the 20s......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot_racing

lol this thread is giving me some serious feelings of deja vu... except all the names are different illepall

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TOUGE IS MEANT TO BE RACED.

If I recall correctly, Touge means mountain... So this must be the most stupid and ignorant saying I've seen in a while (not really, I see a lot of those, specially my own). So basicly you're saying "mountain is meant to be raced"... Now let's see when mountains arived to earth, and when man did... Don't even mention a car (or chariot).

And oh yea... You said gran turismo is realistic... I'm not even going there!

Quote from sileighty :

95% of touge is racing and very very little drifting.

100% of Touge is racing. As somebody already mentioned, sliding cars around tight or slippery corners is a product of normal racing. Tazio Nuvolari was sliding cars around corners during races in the 1930's, but he was just racing. The modern spectacle of drifting may have its roots in Japanese Touge but Touge has nothing at all to do with modern drifting. The existence of Touge does not support an argument to include drift tracks. The existence of Touge does support an argument to include tight mountain racing and hillclimb events. I wish people would stop lumping drifting and Touge into the same category. The two are mutualluy exclusive. Touge is racing, drifting (for the sake of drifting) is not.

then gunn you obviously dont know how drifting became so popular. it became popular from people racing up and down the touges of japan and began sliding more and more like i have already said..... it went ot a point to where they were just sliding constantly. that is how drifting became so popular in japan. japan then made a competition out of it and sent it all over the world into the mainstream sport it is now.

and as for this retarded sgt fellow. you have gotta be one of the stupidest people on this forum... by far. of course the god dman mountains werent made or racing are you nuts? when i say touge i dont just mean mountain road i use it in reference to mountain racing. why the hell do i even bother with you complete morons. i cant believe how stupid some people are. it really does amaze me. unbelievable..... im tired of trying to talk sense into everyone who thinks they know what theyre talking about and refuse to listen to anything but that.

sileighty, the truth is out there if you wish to find it, but don't believe everything you read on automitive forums.

wow sileighty... do you always have to resort to personal insults when people dont agree with you 100%?

Quote from Gabkicks :

lol this thread is giving me some serious feelings of deja vu... except all the names are different illepall

You're right, sadly enough.
Different names, same old descent into abuse and ranting that this topic usually brings *sigh*

Quote from Gabkicks :

wow sileighty... do you always have to resort to personal insults when people dont agree with you 100%?

Maybe he works for Fox News, in which case that would be normal

yes the truth is out there and feel free to prove yourself wrong whenever you feel.

and no i dont resort to personal insults when people dont agree with me. i resort to personal insults when people say things as stupid as that guy did.

i know..i was gonna make an O'riley joke but i decided against it

O'Riley, teehee. What an asshat. He'd be funny if he didn't make me want to beat him to death with his own leg

sil: it's pretty sad that you have to resort to insults at all actually. Whenever I meet someone I think is stupid I usually leave them to their stupidity. What do I care if he's wrong or stupid? Why expend energy telling an idiot what you think of them? It won't change anything. Abusing a guy won't make him any smarter.

Rants like that are what give some people chips on their shoulders about drifters (and for the record I have no problem with drifters. Haters - different story).