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The Comedy of Russell Brand
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Quote from Racer X NZ :https://youtu.be/zbo5ApHmjiM

How to best help the Ukraine ?, lets cancel their Foreign Debt...Hug

He starts the video with an incorrect statement.

"by selling them weapons" -- Incorrect

The weapons have been paid for out of our own security budgets in the form of security assistance

https://www.defensenews.com/gl ... ies-for-ukraines-defense/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/bri ... y-assistance-for-ukraine/

The debt owed by Ukraine is from loans from the IMF and world bank starting in 2014 and not from the sale of weapons during this conflict.

Still agree that the IMF and World Bank(its not the UK or USA) could cancel or delay the repayments though.

Like i have previously said, Russell Brand does get things wrong.
Quote from bishtop :He starts the video with an incorrect statement.

"by selling them weapons" -- Incorrect

The weapons have been paid for out of our own security budgets in the form of security assistance

https://www.defensenews.com/gl ... ies-for-ukraines-defense/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/bri ... y-assistance-for-ukraine/

The debt owed by Ukraine is from loans from the IMF and world bank starting in 2014 and not from the sale of weapons during this conflict.

Still agree that the IMF and World Bank(its not the UK or USA) could cancel or delay the repayments though.

Like i have previously said, Russell Brand does get things wrong.

No interest in an argument, this is a comedy thread but just to correct your comment of ""by selling them weapons" -- Incorrect"

"TURKEY has sold Ukraine several batches of Bayraktar TB2 drones that it deployed against Russian-backed separatists in the eastern Donbass region, infuriating Moscow."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-gets-weapons-west-says-it-needs-more-2022-01-25/

And also Russell has no problem with being wrong, he's a comedian, not a mainstream 'NEWS SOURCE' and his post's are reposted here for their comedic value, He frequently say's he's wrong. Thumbs up

If people don't like his comedy then I suggest you don't watch the videos. An easy way to not be offended..Wave
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And also Russell has no problem with being wrong, he's a comedian, not a mainstream 'NEWS SOURCE' and his post's are reposted here for their comedic value, He frequently say's he's wrong. Thumbs up

If people don't like his comedy then I suggest you don't watch the videos. An easy way to not be offended..Wave

Because Russell does have a lot of people that follow him, being wrong can have a bigger impact than expected.

And i like Russell Brand for his comedy, he's a very good comedian and i've watched him on TV since around 2004 when he became a big hit on british TV due to Big Brother , an analyst though he is not though, even though he has the intelligence to become one.

The drones that Ukraine hold from Turkey had been sold over the past few years, the latest contract hasn't even seen the production start as of yet. And he does come across as hes saying that We or the West are selling them weapons when in fact we're giving to them out of our own security budgets.

Finally this isn't an argument, if i come across as arguing then i apologise as its not my intention.
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As I said, there is no argument as there is nothing to argue about. Nod

It's not like this is the Ukraine thread....Hug
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As I said, there is no argument as there is nothing to argue about. Nod

It's not like this is the Ukraine thread....Hug

Who was arguing ? , i just stated some facts that Russell had been wrong. To disagree is not to argue, its a discussion, people can have a different opinion while still being friendly. Respect to you Thumbs up

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Vanity Fair .... ?

I am struggling to get the point of the article that he links to, i've read it and understand that the Vanity fair article shows that there the origin had first been based on assumptions without any real proof but then it states the following.

"Bloom among them, questioned that assertion, saying the preprints, while worthy, relied on incomplete data and found no infected animal.

“I don’t think they offer proof. They provide evidence that more strongly supports the link to the wild animal market than to the WIV, and that’s the way I would have phrased it,” says W. Ian Lipkin"

The latter sentence contradicts itself, "i don't think they offer proof. They provide evidence that more strongly supports the link to the wild animal market than to the WIV, and that’s the way I would have phrased it,” says W. Ian Lipkin"

Evidence results in proof if it strongly supports the link to the wild animal market than to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, isn't this what we had been told anyway.

The first sentence is not uncommon , a virus mutates within one animal and makes the evoluntionary jump, that animal would've of been eaten.

Its quite possible i missed something in the Vanity Report, which is what Russell's on about.

I have always believed in the possibility that it was an engineered or mutated by human disease, just waited for proof
I've read earlier article in the first half of 2021, but can't find it now, where it rigorously analyses all the aspects of the lab-leak hypothesis -- the virus is still not found in the wild, the cchance of such a sequence of DNA, and the public claims of the Wuhan Institute that they were actually trying to produce a more virulent coronavirus.

The website was made by physicists, IIRC.

I guess this is one of the authors has written this article.

Later I read a rebuttal by a Russian science popularizer, a chemist if I remember correctly. And his points were

1) imputing the physisists a conspiracy theory, in which someone evil did this on purpose. This is clearly a false claim, since LL-theory says it was just an unintentional incident, and the ambitions to produce a virus, to then make vaccines, was openly stated.

2) he insisted that the probabilities of such strange DNA sequence is not low, and large mutations, that didn't leave a trace, were possible too.

In other words, he said that the chances of this happening without the Wuhan Institute are not 1 in a billion, but one in a thousand.

Which doesn't convince me at all, and I think 90% of chance it was an artificial virus that leaked without any evil intent.
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Which doesn't convince me at all, and I think 90% of chance it was an artificial virus that leaked without any evil intent.

Could quite possibily be correct, i know that virus's leaking out of such labs is nothing new, its considered a high probability that the Foot and Mouth outbreak (effects cows) back in 2007 had come from a lab called Pirbright in Surrey and somehow accidently leaked.

With human airborne diseases all it takes is one person to accidently become infected without realising and it soon will spread if the bodies immune system does not recognise it.
Let's look at a Chinese documentary that I found a long while ago.....

A Chinese propaganda video that clearly no one should pay attention to and, while it's propaganda, I've yet to find any actual study finding or producing this fascinating piece of evidence showing Chinese research on bat related corovirus.

I do love propaganda, Yay, Yay, go us, aren't we clever.......

Yes, I should spend less time doing research. Did I Say That?
https://youtu.be/ovnUyTRMERI

It's even on YouTube.

Check out what's actually being said here please, and check the timeline. Taped Shut

Neither Russell or I said it was deliberate, but pay attention to who was paying for the research, cough, cough.....
Quote from Racer X NZ :Neither Russell or I said it was deliberate, but pay attention to who was paying for the research, cough, cough.....

If you mean a research paper, then it's also important to see how credible the publisher is, and if they actually published it. A source you don't trust can sometimes tell the truth, like with Russian vaccine Sputnik-V, which worked.

Then if it's not just recently published, one should look for similar researches for cross-check.
Quote from Racer X NZ :Let's look at a Chinese documentary that I found a long while ago.....

A Chinese propaganda video that clearly no one should pay attention to and, while it's propaganda, I've yet to find any actual study finding or producing this fascinating piece of evidence showing Chinese research on bat related corovirus.

I do love propaganda, Yay, Yay, go us, aren't we clever.......

Yes, I should spend less time doing research. Did I Say That?
https://youtu.be/ovnUyTRMERI

It's even on YouTube.

Check out what's actually being said here please, and check the timeline. Taped Shut

Neither Russell or I said it was deliberate, but pay attention to who was paying for the research, cough, cough.....

Bats are known and proven to carry two different types of Coronavirus already (Sars-COV) which first surfaced in 2002 , and MERS-COV which surfaced in 2012.

Other known diseases found in bats are Ebola , Marburg(filovirus) , Hendra ,Nipah , Lyssavirus. Which all but one can be spread to humans.

Youtube aint great for research, you can find scientific papers quite easily from independent sources, or even request them under the freedom of information act if from the UK.

While they don't know exactly from what animal Covid 19 came from, they do know its is a zoonosis, a human disease of animal origin by checking its genetic makeup . However, the animal source of SARS-CoV-2 is still unknown for certain.
Big grin

Clearly time to get out the crayons. Hug

Russell's video, Fauci was involved with funding Chinese bat (coof) research...

Chinese propaganda, on coof bat research, metres away from a wet market, "Oh, I have been infected twice".....

This is clearly not a peer reviewed scientific paper, just try to accept that there may be a possible link here. Wave

FYI, the bat's live 700km away from the wet market....Uh-hu
Thank you China for this information.....
Quote from Racer X NZ :Big grin

Clearly time to get out the crayons. Hug

Russell's video, Fauci was involved with funding Chinese bat (coof) research...

Chinese propaganda, on coof bat research, metres away from a wet market, "Oh, I have been infected twice".....

This is clearly not a peer reviewed scientific paper, just try to accept that there may be a possible link here. Wave

FYI, the bat's live 700km away from the wet market....Uh-hu
Thank you China for this information.....

Its never actually been bats that had been accused of spreading it directly to humans, bats had been suspected of passing it to the ant-eating pangolin, which is a delicacy in china and then it jumped to humans.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abh0117

https://www.contagionlive.com/ ... passed-bats-humans-animal

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00364-2

https://www.nature.com/article ... %20the%20prime%20suspect.

https://www.google.com/search? ... tOegqkex3nCrd5ZMq6X33jp-C
Quote from Racer X NZ :So it's really the pangolin...Nod
https://youtu.be/ZUNJd06iyWU
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https://youtu.be/UG1E5MQwXL0
The Chinese Lockdown.

It has been suspected as a pangolin since the beguinning.

SARS-CoV-2 is a newly discovered virus that is closely related to bat coronaviruses,[24] pangolin coronaviruses,[25][26] and SARS-CoV

The scientific consensus is that the virus is most likely of zoonotic origin, from bats or another closely-related mammal.

The earliest known infected person fell ill on 1 December 2019. That individual did not have a connection with the later wet market cluster.[38][39] However, an earlier case may have occurred on 17 November.[40] Two-thirds of the initial case cluster were linked with the market.[41][42][43] Molecular clock analysis suggests that the index case is likely to have been infected between mid-October and mid-November 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

Papers on the research of the origin of COVID 19 from the World Health Organisation

https://www.who.int/emergencie ... 2019/origins-of-the-virus Cool

Certainly trust some of the best scientist and virologist than a comedian youtuber(even though he is a great comedian). Id not really trust a state scientist personally, but with WHO they're a group of international scientist under the UN and not a single state government group.

Heres good video about all the conspiracy theorist of late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZbfkBCwtk
I don't recall disagreeing with your evidence regarding pangolins. Wave

And now let's look at disinformation.
https://youtu.be/SXgf7xwu8ws

Fauci gets fact checked...
Thank you for listening/watching the video posted above and actually paying attention. It's really appreciated that we can all move forward and communicate, talk, discuss, disagree, but have the freedom to communicate.
Thank you all. Thumbs up
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The Comedy of Russell Brand
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