And so, no one till now did't make complete F1 skins fok Formula 1 ? For BF1?

A was make (still in progres) for Ferrari...

Hello!

Is there any league in 2007?

Quote from imthebestracerthereis :

owersteer? lol

illepall (only not thumb then middle....)

Last edited by AleksejBASOwarrior, Thu 18 Jan 2007, 21:54.

@ jtw62074

Now this is good explanation. Thanx!

I know for tyre load sesitivity (thats why truck never can have same tyre performance like car - thaths what I heard) but just not thinkin that way.

Quote from Blowtus :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-roll_bar

OK i bilieve.... But...

Quote from Bob Smith :

As ajp71 says increasing ARBs at once end of the car decreases grip at that end, so they are working fine.

About the loads, higher ARBs always reduce the difference in left and right loads when cornering, which helps increase grip (thanks to tyre load sensitivity).

Stiffening just one ARB transfers more load to that end of the car (front or rear) when cornering, so infact decreases grip at that end of the car (again, thanks to tyre load sensitivity).

But still... How tyre with biger load can't stand bigger lateral force. This two thing should be proprtional...

Or I missing something again?

http://www.engin.brown.edu/cou ... iction_files/image009.gif could'n fin better image now...

N=mi*T

(mi-friction coeficient)

Tyre phisics is bit different (deformation,trail...) but not so different.

Hi all!

Something occupy my mind for some time. It is influence of anti-roll bar on lateral dynamics of car. (in LFS)

I expect to stiffer anti-roll bar affect that increase lateral force which wheels can stand in curves. For example if I have oversteer, i make stiffer rear end ARB and get better control of rear end. Ofcourse if i make to much stiffer i will get understeer.

Actually it is hepend. Long time a go i recieve some "WR" setup for XF GTI - BL GP track (demo days ) and I feel much over steer so I make stiffer rear ARB a car vas mor in control. After short time I drive much better time!

BUT....

Now I drive LX4 - AS Club R and somethinh strange happend. Increasing stiffnes of rear ARB makes car oversteer much more than before, and stiffer ARB on fornt doesn't decres understeering

So i make two run, tryin to drive on same conditoins - same line, speed, throttle (aproximatly), with 2 same set, but one difference. In 1st run front ARB was on max and rear on 0, and on 2nd run oposite.

And i saw this.

Run 1



Run 2



Pict 1 show clear understeer. Pict 2 show on all 4 wheel "red" force but it is also clear owersteer.

Edited

But if we look on vertical force on tyres wi see that are in 1st case vertical force on tyre (as U say tyre load) bigger then in 2nd run! And tyre load on rear (outer ofcourse) wheel is bigger when is rear ARB stiffer. So stiffer ARB incress vertical force on outer wheel resulting weight transfer during turn. Thats I expected but...

How can wheel with bigger vertical load loose grip more rather than same wheel when have smaller tyre load?

I hope we can agree that is lateral force same in both case, cause it depend of CoG position between front and rear wheel, and it is same on both case....


What do U others think about this?

Last edited by AleksejBASOwarrior, Thu 18 Jan 2007, 01:00.

Cool stuff!!!

But it would be nice if I had this for other track...

I need to make some layout for Kyoto Oval etc.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Just to make it official, development of GRC2 is now officially over, halted, stopped, dead, never to continue, etc.

Why that??

Quote from PLAYLIFE :

"+ Deleting mprs/sprs ingame"

That's in the test patch already isn't it!?

Smart tell...

No longer welcome

No, Im sure I dont have. (So little RAM to waste it)

I use to install Windows for every few months, and always I have to install (unzip) LFS again, and I notice this before.

It is a bit of problem when Im online.

First work normal, but after some time it just dont works.

For example Ctrl+F2 work, but Ctrl+F1 (wich I use for "Hello") dont. And F1 work. And so...

Quote from jonaskarl :

Hey guys .. can someone make a General Lee skin for me !

Why don't U make itself, it would by more pleasure for U.

For me is point to make my own skin, by myself.

Quote from Stew2000 :

i like

As a kid I planed to paint my car (when I grow ) ih this color.

Certainly, now I don't wish that with real car, but LFS give me posibillity to do that.

Last edited by AleksejBASOwarrior, Mon 25 Sep 2006, 11:40.

Quote from ruckus37 :

The difference has been bugging me for a while, but it is evident in the two simulators,

Rfactor = American, as just Hollywood arcade style
LFS = European more realistic

Let the flam wars begin!

Crosslink: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=225881

The way that i see LFS "against" other sim is:

LFS - is great simulations of car dynamics - made to simulate dynamics of car driving.

rF, GTR, etc. - great imitation of car driving.


Final filing is similar, some people love LFS some rF, but base is totaly different.

Mad Max inspiration!





XRG_INTERCEPTOR
http://img132.imageshack.us/im ... 963/xrginterceptoril4.jpg

XRG_PURSUIT
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8177/xrgpursuitym5.jpg

Quote from traxxion :

I will miss the best F1 driver ever.

Thank you Michael, for many great races and everytime a reason to get up in the middle of the night...

Damn right!!

More than 10 years im his fan.....

M3 Inspiration...



Here it is.



There is my name on left door, so if U want to use it, chage that detail.

Last edited by AleksejBASOwarrior, Sun 10 Sep 2006, 15:12.

Quote from Harry_NOR :

its like "Need for speed" or something.

illepall

I just want to say that I did not know for this program before, I download it few days ago, and its wunderfull.

Great job Bob Smith, and others!!!!!!

Quote from Bob Smith :

Exporting to csv works fine to me. Open in Excel, do what you what, and remember to save it as an .xls file when you're done. Is there a manual for it? I'd have a look.

Strange thing... I open csv file but he is with no usefull data.

Which MS Office do U have? I have Office and Excel 2003, maybe is that problem?...

Hello everyone!

Sometime I use F1Perfview program and its very interesting to get all output informations like in other professional program for car dynamic simulations.(like in CarSim that I use on my university)

But, as I see option to export some data to some .csv file that opens with Excel, I do that, but never I get normal Excel file. File that I get is empty or with some strange values...

So, does anyone knows how to realy export data in file, that later could use in Excel, wich geave me possibility to work more with numbers I get?

Or I sholud use some other program than Excel??

For example to find average value for some data, or smething like that.

Quote from Vain :

The standard-setup-problem is a problem that exists very long and people seem to forget about it quite fast. Also this problem sheds a very bad light on LFS because some of the race_1 or hardtrack-setups are unbearable. Just yesterday I accidentaly drove the XRT with the race_1 setup and wondered what I did to this car that it behaved so extremely bad. I thought I broke my wheel or so. It's a shame that everyone who is new to LFS tries to drive with these setups.


Vain

For me, when i start with LFS this was most ineresant detail.

I dont know why some people say that crash is no, or yes good???

Point of LFS is not to crash, then to race, so i think that what we have now in LFS is almost perfect. Maybe only glass crashes or some, but not more.

Quote from tristancliffe :

In LFS you have too much maximum grip sometimes - over 1.2g in the road cars. However, the way the cars lose and, more specifically, regain grip is questionable and will be fixed in the forthcoming patch.

Yes I think to... I had even mesuring average grip, to avoid this extrem values in just short time, using F1perfwiev eng got about 0.9!!! Its very big value.

Last edited by AleksejBASOwarrior, Mon 10 Apr 2006, 04:48.