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+1 - Tyres should be cold when you start, perhaps not with the formulas at the moment but certainly in the future as they are banning tyre warmers in F1 after this season (I think)
Another thing as far as race spec cars with slicks - has anyone driven on brand spanking new cold slicks? If you have you'll know what I'm getting at...If not - you will come out of the pits, turn the wheel and keep going straight on! Your first lap on a brand new set will be like driving on slicks in the rain, however your second and third laps would have so much grip and feel you could quite easily knock 2-4 tenths off your lap time.
On that note - Would be nice to have the option of selecting new or scrubbed tyres for cars using slicks?
Another thing as far as race spec cars with slicks - has anyone driven on brand spanking new cold slicks? If you have you'll know what I'm getting at...If not - you will come out of the pits, turn the wheel and keep going straight on! Your first lap on a brand new set will be like driving on slicks in the rain, however your second and third laps would have so much grip and feel you could quite easily knock 2-4 tenths off your lap time.
On that note - Would be nice to have the option of selecting new or scrubbed tyres for cars using slicks?
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Depends on the laptop really! I have used both a Dell Precision M70, and a HP 8710w which run LFS very well at a stable 70fps+
I wouldn't recommend overclocking laptop processors, the cooling etc on a laptop is so highly tuned which could lead to you damaging not just the processor!
Rob
Taxi for Beales...Lol!
I'll have another play with the settings and wheel, just need to get used to it I suppose!
Rob
Sorry to double post...
Hey Angry Angel,
I have looked everywhere looking for the option to disable auto centering...but can't find it for the life of me in windows or LFS!
At the moment when I drive, the wheel seems to auto-correct my skids! I presume if I can find the Auto-Center settings this will stop?
I am sure I just need to get used to it, but at the moment it's really frustrating as it feels the wheel has more control over the car than I do! lol!
Rob
Thanks for that
I shall have another play and use what you have said as a starting point! I didn't realise you could use < and > either so that will save time
Rob
Learning to drive again!
Hey All,
Got myself a cheap Saitek R440 on eBay the other day, plugged it all in last night to test it out and geeeeeeeze...This force feedback is going to take a little getting used to!
(R440 Seems like a good wheel by the way from first impressions)
I probably need to have a play around with the settings, currently about 80% in windows control panel, and 100 in LFS...I think I need to lower the LFS setting and raise the CP setting?!
Either way I think it's going to take a few weeks before I'm lapping the same as my old wheel!!
Rob
Got myself a cheap Saitek R440 on eBay the other day, plugged it all in last night to test it out and geeeeeeeze...This force feedback is going to take a little getting used to!
(R440 Seems like a good wheel by the way from first impressions)
I probably need to have a play around with the settings, currently about 80% in windows control panel, and 100 in LFS...I think I need to lower the LFS setting and raise the CP setting?!
Either way I think it's going to take a few weeks before I'm lapping the same as my old wheel!!
Rob
Sidewinder or R440
Hi Guys,
My wheel died last night so i'm on the hunt for a new one, there are a few on eBay so really just want to know for £30 (inc. postage) which is the better buy? Microsoft Sidewinder or Saitek R440?
Rob
My wheel died last night so i'm on the hunt for a new one, there are a few on eBay so really just want to know for £30 (inc. postage) which is the better buy? Microsoft Sidewinder or Saitek R440?
Rob
Here is the old board:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/show/liana_laps.shtml
F1 drivers at the bottom!
My best time = 1:45.05
Rob
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Good fun little simulation 
My best is low 1:45's so not sure how real to life the thing is as that is nearing the Stigs time!
Rob
My best is low 1:45's so not sure how real to life the thing is as that is nearing the Stigs time!
Rob
Hello All! 
Well I always ask the fast guys where they brake, and they always say they don't or some say that they do just in one place..
From my experience in karting, you don't spend a lot of time on the breaks throughout a circuit. Obviously this differs with kart class, and track but for example Daytona International at Milton Keynes (UK) has a good 14 corners, only a handful of these you actually need to use the break on.
You may not HAVE to use the break on a corner, but it's finding out if it's faster to use it or not! Also breaking technique is a big factor in karting - a sharp jab on the break will get the a*se out and can help on certain corners to keep the kart stable, you'll mainly get this on tighter hairpins. "Double pedalling" is a big factor with breaking too - in hire karts, this is not allowed as they use cheaper clutches which burn out, it can also make the breaks bind. However when you do it correctly in owner karts (both 4 and 2 stroke) you can apply the brakes without dropping the engine revs which can help you gain time.
As to some members saying that karting is aggressive etc - it depends on the class and what series you are racing. 4 stroke is generally more friendly, especially the club championships (Rye House, Lakeside etc) the old UK Champs used to be very competitive but was still very friendly.
2 Stroke is a lot more aggressive and generally more competitive. You will always get rubbing in karting, and a little bit of bumping but that's racing.
Just my opinions as usual!
Darn - recently all my posts are really long!
Rob
Well I always ask the fast guys where they brake, and they always say they don't or some say that they do just in one place..
From my experience in karting, you don't spend a lot of time on the breaks throughout a circuit. Obviously this differs with kart class, and track but for example Daytona International at Milton Keynes (UK) has a good 14 corners, only a handful of these you actually need to use the break on.
You may not HAVE to use the break on a corner, but it's finding out if it's faster to use it or not! Also breaking technique is a big factor in karting - a sharp jab on the break will get the a*se out and can help on certain corners to keep the kart stable, you'll mainly get this on tighter hairpins. "Double pedalling" is a big factor with breaking too - in hire karts, this is not allowed as they use cheaper clutches which burn out, it can also make the breaks bind. However when you do it correctly in owner karts (both 4 and 2 stroke) you can apply the brakes without dropping the engine revs which can help you gain time.
As to some members saying that karting is aggressive etc - it depends on the class and what series you are racing. 4 stroke is generally more friendly, especially the club championships (Rye House, Lakeside etc) the old UK Champs used to be very competitive but was still very friendly.
2 Stroke is a lot more aggressive and generally more competitive. You will always get rubbing in karting, and a little bit of bumping but that's racing.
Just my opinions as usual!
Darn - recently all my posts are really long!
Rob
Driving in LFS will not make you a worse karter when your new season starts. Once you are in the seat and can feel what the kart is doing you'll be just fine.
You'll be used to the direct kart steering in no-time at all...once you are through that first corner you'll wonder why you were ever having doubts.
Cheers,
Rob
You'll be used to the direct kart steering in no-time at all...once you are through that first corner you'll wonder why you were ever having doubts.
Cheers,
Rob
Agreed
One thing I have learnt from karting and LFS is that you cannot stop the inevitable...if someone is faster than you they will eventually get past you one way or another. Even if you are taking defensive lines around the track.
Sometimes it is best to let them through if they are generally faster.
Many mistakes and accidents are made by people paying too much attention to what is going on behind them and not enough time on the track! The last thing you want to happen is to make a mistake and come off the track or loose several positions!
What I do on both the race track and LFS is give it a few laps of really defensive driving, if someone wants to pass me they are going to have to work for it!
If after 3 laps they are still litterally right on my bumper i'll let them pass - don't get me wrong I won't make it easy, but i'll let them through making sure I get right up behind them in the process. I know they are not loads faster than me, if they were they would have overtaken sooner and sped off into the distance - I follow them round closely and let them have the pressure of someone fighting for their position. They are now the more likely to make a mistake.
As a rule, you are allowed to move accross the track and back once as mentioned above. This is usually while driving down the straights to force the other driver to take a more difficult line into the next corner and makes an overtaking move more difficult.
Also as mentioned, if you are hit from behind it is 99% of the time the car behinds fault - unless you are breaking unnecessarily.
Cheers,
Rob
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Well - It's new to me...and I like it! New configuration/New Track...same thing to me! If it's not 100% identical, it's different!
Rob
New favorite track - SO6
Hi All,
Used to love racing around Aston (all configurations) but after the release of the test patch I am LOVING SO6
With the FBM especially, it's such a brilliant circuit, simple yet complex - challenging while rewarding at the same time!
It's a fantastic mixture of high speed racing right behind your opponents, and difficult cornering!
My favourite part of the track would have to be the "complex" area, through fast right hander of T2 - a jab on the brakes and dropping 2 gears keeping it tight around T3 before throwing the car into T4 and down the hill towards a flat out right, left, right! You have to be careful here - if your not smooth enough on the steering you'll be out of the race!
This track gives those not quite as fast as others a chance to get results! My fastest lap is 1:07.35, which isn't super fast, however I've found myself having great battles with guys running in the 1:06's! The overtaking opportunities are there on this track, but they are not easy! Of course the best place to pass is on one of the straights and to clear your opponent before reaching the next corner, however from what I have seen and had experience of the main places for overtaking are:
T1 - Always an obvious overtaking opportunity, however far from easy! If you are too late on the brakes here you can loose your back end, you can also struggle with under steer if you're too eager on the throttle! IMO the best thing to do here is take a nice, smooth apex and get in the slipstream for the back straight!
T2/T3 - If you are planning to go through this section side by side you must 100% trust the person you are racing with! There is no room for errors, if you are on the inside you cannot push your opponent too wide...if you are on the outside you have a decision to make! Can you make it out of T2 and through T3 side by side safely? If not lift off - you have to be very careful not to cut up the racer on the inside here! It's better to loose a place than be out of the race and take other racers with you!
T7 (hairpin) - Hairpins will always give you a chance to overtake, however with most racers braking at the latest possible opportunity here, getting past on the inside going into the corner is tricky - if you are close enough then of course the chance is there, but if not a better choice would be to take a late apex and benefit from excellent "drive" and grip on the exit which will allow you to close the gap and get in the slipstream for the main straight. You will even find that when under pressure, the guys you are racing may be too eager on the right pedal and you will sail past them on the exit!
The only "issue" I have with this track is the crashes while online...obviously you can't help crashing, however if you've had a big crash and are sat in a dangerous place IMO you should get off the racing line and wait...if it's a really big crash you should forget everything and join the spectators straight away! There is nothing worse than coming round a blind bend to see yellow flags and a car blocking the road - DOH...Race over!
Crikey...that was a longen! Hope you are all enjoying the track as much as I am, and you never know people might even find my "overtaking places" section useful
Rob
Used to love racing around Aston (all configurations) but after the release of the test patch I am LOVING SO6
With the FBM especially, it's such a brilliant circuit, simple yet complex - challenging while rewarding at the same time!
It's a fantastic mixture of high speed racing right behind your opponents, and difficult cornering!
My favourite part of the track would have to be the "complex" area, through fast right hander of T2 - a jab on the brakes and dropping 2 gears keeping it tight around T3 before throwing the car into T4 and down the hill towards a flat out right, left, right! You have to be careful here - if your not smooth enough on the steering you'll be out of the race!
This track gives those not quite as fast as others a chance to get results! My fastest lap is 1:07.35, which isn't super fast, however I've found myself having great battles with guys running in the 1:06's! The overtaking opportunities are there on this track, but they are not easy! Of course the best place to pass is on one of the straights and to clear your opponent before reaching the next corner, however from what I have seen and had experience of the main places for overtaking are:
T1 - Always an obvious overtaking opportunity, however far from easy! If you are too late on the brakes here you can loose your back end, you can also struggle with under steer if you're too eager on the throttle! IMO the best thing to do here is take a nice, smooth apex and get in the slipstream for the back straight!
T2/T3 - If you are planning to go through this section side by side you must 100% trust the person you are racing with! There is no room for errors, if you are on the inside you cannot push your opponent too wide...if you are on the outside you have a decision to make! Can you make it out of T2 and through T3 side by side safely? If not lift off - you have to be very careful not to cut up the racer on the inside here! It's better to loose a place than be out of the race and take other racers with you!
T7 (hairpin) - Hairpins will always give you a chance to overtake, however with most racers braking at the latest possible opportunity here, getting past on the inside going into the corner is tricky - if you are close enough then of course the chance is there, but if not a better choice would be to take a late apex and benefit from excellent "drive" and grip on the exit which will allow you to close the gap and get in the slipstream for the main straight. You will even find that when under pressure, the guys you are racing may be too eager on the right pedal and you will sail past them on the exit!
The only "issue" I have with this track is the crashes while online...obviously you can't help crashing, however if you've had a big crash and are sat in a dangerous place IMO you should get off the racing line and wait...if it's a really big crash you should forget everything and join the spectators straight away! There is nothing worse than coming round a blind bend to see yellow flags and a car blocking the road - DOH...Race over!
Crikey...that was a longen! Hope you are all enjoying the track as much as I am, and you never know people might even find my "overtaking places" section useful
Rob
My first win!!!
Hey All,
Won my first race yesterday, and had a handfull of 2nd's and 3rd's
Was using the FBM on SO6 (Redline Racing Servers)
Really getting to grips with the new car on that track, I think the track is excellent combined with the FBM! I also think it's a brilliant combination to give us beginners a chance to get up there amongst the best!
I was running low to min 1:07's which I was pleased with, have no idea where I am loosing time thought to be honest! I'll upload a replay at some point to show you all...you might be able to tell me where I am going slower that I should!!
Rob
Won my first race yesterday, and had a handfull of 2nd's and 3rd's
Was using the FBM on SO6 (Redline Racing Servers)Really getting to grips with the new car on that track, I think the track is excellent combined with the FBM! I also think it's a brilliant combination to give us beginners a chance to get up there amongst the best!
I was running low to min 1:07's which I was pleased with, have no idea where I am loosing time thought to be honest! I'll upload a replay at some point to show you all...you might be able to tell me where I am going slower that I should!!
Rob
I've been having the same thing this morning on the Redline servers (FBM on SO6) Was working fine yesterday with no problems, now today I loose connection to the server after a view minutes of joining!
Any Thoughts?
Rob
Any Thoughts?
Rob
True, perhaps the settings are a little too strong? As mentioned I personally like the movement with the bumps, obviously you do move with the car in realy life - however your head will still bob and shake with sudden drops and rises in the track.
At least you have the option to change the settings though
Rob
This is another realistic new setting which is fab IMO!
Hitting a bump or driving over rough ground (and curbs) in real life would cause everything to shake, including your head, which would obviously make your view shake all over the place!
Add's to the character of the track IMO
Rob
Hitting a bump or driving over rough ground (and curbs) in real life would cause everything to shake, including your head, which would obviously make your view shake all over the place!
Add's to the character of the track IMO
Rob
doh!
Just realised this is what was happening to me too! I was carrying much more fuel making me slower down the straights! Lowered the amount of fuel and hey presto!
Seriouslty though, the AI are pretty darn good
They are generally pretty quick and very consistant!Rob
To me, this is more a "game" feature than a sim feature, and as LFS is a sim my answer would have to be no i'm affraid!
An offline league against the AI's maybe but not a career.
An offline league against the AI's maybe but not a career.
of course...i'm in
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