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Need help improving my racingskills
Hello everyone here at LFS-forum.

I've been around playing demo for a while, started drifting on demoservers due to the rush of pulling of a powerslide through a long turn.
One day I tried just racing, got me a decent racingsetup and started practicing and found that it was much funnier then drifting!
Racing has really caught me but I got a few questions about it.
I get around the track quite ok even with my old DeXXa steeringwheel and some floppy plastic pedals but I would like some tips on how to improve how to behave on the racetrack.
  • If a racer behind me tries to overtake me, am I allowed to block him by turning into his path? Not crash him, just turn ahead so he can't go past? If he then nudges me and we both crash, whos fault is it?
  • Am I allowed to overtake anywhere, as long as it's not dangerous or will give risk to crash out several other racers? Like in the middle of corners etc.
  • If I am ahead of a racer and I starts to brake heavily because I see that I will not make the corner without doing it. He nudges me and we both crash out, whos fault is it?
You see that mostly these questions is about maners on the racetrack, what I am allowed to do and have the "rules behind my back" so to speak.

I got the driving part sorted out, I just drive pure and simply so I don't really need any tips there but if you think that I could use a good tip you have, don't hesitate to say it!

/ Dalarna
#2 - Bean0
Swerving along a straight is a bit unsportsmanlike, generally it is said that you are entitled to make one move across the track, then another to return to your normal racing line.

Overtake anywhere you can, but use common sense. If you are considerably faster than the guy ahead, it could be easily possible to outbrake from a long way back, or even drive around him on the outside of a bend, but as I say, use common sense.

If you get hit from behind, then it is almost always the other persons fault. Unless you have intentionally 'brake tested' them, I can't see any real reason for the driver in front to ge the blame.

You will hear a lot about overlap. The old CRC (Clean Racers Club) had rules that if an overtaking car had overlapped the car he was passing by half (ie, nose level with driver), then the overtaking car has right of way into a corner. Again, common sense applies...if there's a guy on your inside or outside give him room, you probably can't take the 'racing line' that you are used to. These CRC rules have pretty much become the standard when deciding fault.

As long as you behave sensibly and are respectful to other racers then you should have no problems.
Hmm, okey. One move and that's it. Good to know.

CRC-rules? Tell me more about it please.

Good tips there, thanks alot for them.
#4 - Bean0
Use a brain. Stay calm. Don't try to force a passes and blocks.

What I see a lot of people do is they try to pass right after they have caught up to someone and then they take both racers. The first thing you should try to learn is when to give in and when to go for it. It's no always easy to pass even if you are clearly faster, but if you are faster you can let go in the first corner and try the pass again in the next corner!
Same goes for the defensive actions too. It is important to learn to know when the other person has clearly taken an advantage over you. What I also see a lot is when people notice that they are being passed they will try all that they can to stop the pass which usually results in a crash.

It's tempting to drive overaggressively on short public races, but you should try to resist this urge and stay calm. Especially on public servers it's important to only do passes/blocks you know you can pull off safely. When racing people you know or in a more serious race you can try one of the more daring moves

Quote :If a racer behind me tries to overtake me, am I allowed to block him by turning into his path? Not crash him, just turn ahead so he can't go past? If he then nudges me and we both crash, whos fault is it?

You are allowed to block people. The one line change rule is not an official rule, but it's still a good guideline. Just remember when blocking people make sure you do it so that the other person has time to react. Especially don't move right in front of someone when you are clearly slower and start braking heavily, I have seen many races end that way.
Quote :If I am ahead of a racer and I starts to brake heavily because I see that I will not make the corner without doing it. He nudges me and we both crash out, whos fault is it?

It's the persons who is behind fault. When chasing someone you should always leave some room behind them, so you can react to their braking and also remember that drafting makes you slow down slower than usual. Also take note of what I said in the last paragraph, while technically the person behind you is always at fault, you still shouldn't cause unnecessary crashes by moving in front of someone and instantly start braking.
I'm getting some good tips here, thanks.

CRC-rules helped clearing some things out and you, geeman1, cleared out some more.

Use a brain. Stay calm. Don't try to force a passes and blocks.

I think your starting line there summed it all up.
I've gotten the help I asked for here, but if someone got any more tips how I can improve my racing it is always OK to say!
#7 - J@tko
Quick phrase to sum it up: Don't do to others what you wouldn't want others to do to you.
Quote from sidi :
most important rule is always have fun.

Agreed

Quote :
If a racer behind me tries to overtake me, am I allowed to block him by turning into his path? Not crash him, just turn ahead so he can't go past? If he then nudges me and we both crash, whos fault is it?

One thing I have learnt from karting and LFS is that you cannot stop the inevitable...if someone is faster than you they will eventually get past you one way or another. Even if you are taking defensive lines around the track.

Sometimes it is best to let them through if they are generally faster.

Many mistakes and accidents are made by people paying too much attention to what is going on behind them and not enough time on the track! The last thing you want to happen is to make a mistake and come off the track or loose several positions!

What I do on both the race track and LFS is give it a few laps of really defensive driving, if someone wants to pass me they are going to have to work for it!
If after 3 laps they are still litterally right on my bumper i'll let them pass - don't get me wrong I won't make it easy, but i'll let them through making sure I get right up behind them in the process. I know they are not loads faster than me, if they were they would have overtaken sooner and sped off into the distance - I follow them round closely and let them have the pressure of someone fighting for their position. They are now the more likely to make a mistake.

As a rule, you are allowed to move accross the track and back once as mentioned above. This is usually while driving down the straights to force the other driver to take a more difficult line into the next corner and makes an overtaking move more difficult.

Also as mentioned, if you are hit from behind it is 99% of the time the car behinds fault - unless you are breaking unnecessarily.

Cheers,

Rob

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