Hi all, nice racing with you all, had great fun, yet again...
To Gil, in the second race, lap no one, i would like to say sorry, though there was nothing i could do to miss you, believe me i tried... Felt bad when you left... But watching the raplay, there was NOTHING i could do...
Alias Racing Team will be puling Andrew Garner from the drivers list for this race, due to him showing up for any test sessions this weekend, this means that car #02 Alias Racing Team will be attending with only 2 drivers:
Alias J. Holme (Astro [ BJRL ])
Alias F. Sonne (Franke)
Sorry for this late annoucement, but we have been expecting him to show up, but he hasn't.
Have a little request... I know, as i have seen it, that it is possible to add a time penalty, which will be enforced on the final result, as soon as the final standings appear...
As i am planning a little MRT League, and would like drivers of all experience level to participate, i would like for Car Reset to be activated, BUT i want to add a 10 second time penalty, NOT 10 Sec Stop and go, for each time the driver resets, but i would like it to be automatic on my server, is this possible?
I can't seem to find a command for adding time to final standings, and that is my main problem, do you know this command, please tell, i think i can manage to make the rest of the script... But i need the command to add time...
If you have never seen this, here is how you get a time added penalty... Start a race, that has Must Pit, and you have to start so far back that you can go directly into the pits when lights go green, then dive directly into the pit, make your pitstop and drive the rest of the race, THAT will add 30 seconds to you time, you will not get a DQ, but only the 30 seconds time penalty in the end... But how do I adminster, this kind of penalty???
Thanks for a great 1. season in the Mini League, its been fun, and a lot of close racing...
A special thanks to Kenn for arranging this wonderful league. Looking forward to the Midi League...
And now for my sorries.
First i would like to say sorry to Steen for the slight touch on lap 2 or 3, i tried to avoid you, but i couldn't, that was my fault, not yours, i was very sorry to see that you diconnected.
Sorry to Jimmy for making my only other mistake in the race, when you were close to overtaking me, i tried to stay off the raceline, i did, but you probably got distracted by my mistake...
I think those two incidents were the only time during the race i had any form of traffic to cope with, and i did a pretty bad job of handling it...
Fair enough, now look at the replay and tell me that the rules are followed... I THINK NOT, listen to what i have to say...
Firstly, i hate having to do this, but the way you answered me to my previous post, just got me frustrated, i feel my answer was worthy of more than just a, well, can't even find the word for it. I hate myself for persuing this... But i feel the rules are not being obayed on all ends, and all i wan't, is that the stupid Safety Car HAS TO OBAY THE RULES, as we do too.
Incident #1 (Starting behind safety car):
Lap no. 1: At the split (THERE IS ONLY ONE ON OVAL) what speed should the SC be going at PASSING split 1??? Yes, definately NOT KM 143, as was the case... What does #02 do, hit the PL, as told by the rules, but i am probably the only one. Comming up behind #11, i don't know what his starting pos is, so i stay behind, I DON'T WANT PENALTIES, he crashes, Rule on SC crash, is that its ok to SAFELY PASS, i lift off the gas, till i can see it's safe to pass. Crossing the Start/Finish line, and then what, i get passed by 3, yes THREE cars, expecting them to be told to fall back, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS (#01, #06 and #09, not looking for them to get LL now)... Well on with it, i catch up, still not wanting to get a DT i stay behind the 3 that just passed me, STILL expecting to be told to repass, BUT NOTHING. The SC is approacing the spilt, and what speed sould he be doing now???? Correct 78 kmh, but he is cruising nicely at 113, at this point i am catching up, and i do what? YES, I ENGANGE MY PL once again, as the rules clearly states i should be doing, Well approaching the start, i am still wondering when i will be told to repass, expecting another formation lap, and then the race goes GREEN, was i expecting that, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, so before i know it, i am DEAD LAST... So please Benji, did I, or did I not follow the rules. Your reply kinda p'ed me off, cos you made it look like this was my fault, or lack of knowledge of the rules, which i think the replay clearly shows, it is not, i am probably one of the few that actually followed them. The Safety Car didn't, VERY wrong speed passing split. (Sorry to the once that was also following them, i didn't watch from all cars)...
Incident #2 (SC period starting on lap 9, ending on lap 14):
I catch up to the field, now being in 4th, having passed all the once getting DT's from Qualifying... i slow down as i can see the field getting closer, and keep a nice distance, and then what, i get rear-ended, nothing serious for me, but still i get hit, i don't know if he got a penalty for that, but, that is not safe driving in my book, this was #09. (Not looking for him to get LL now). Being behind SC, i keep up all the time this time around, as i don't wan't to get caught out on following the rules again... Passing the line on lap 10 going to lap 11, i brake slightly, so i will not hit the guy in front, 3 cars have an incident behind me, directly linked to my braking, two more are close, but doesn't look like they hit each other... But the rules say, maintain 2 carlengths of space between cars... Well the restart of the race happens at end of lap 14. When the Safety Car ENTERS split, it is doing kmh 138, that is way too high, again max. 80, according to the rules... This time around i am holding my breath trying to keep up, and be ready to brake, still doing over 130, where we should have been on PL. Finally entering the last corner i hit the PL, 22 seconds AFTER entering Split, not daring any more, again not wanting DT. At this point i am already far behind lead group, waiting to be told to catch up, but it never happens... People start HONKING their horns, but i am not in power to anything, but to obay the rules, as you so finely pointed out. Missing the green on replay, but i get a good start, and thats the end. Safety Car did not AGAIN obay the rules, it so finely should be enforcing.
After that, i might have disobayed a few things, but i never recieved ANY kind of penalty, so i must have done something right, but one thing is for sure, I OBAYED BLUE FLAGS to a point, that should be shown as an exampel, of how it should be done. Our team was one of the VERY few that din't recieve a penalty after qualifying, as we were also practising pit exit...
By this complaint, i hope to achieve that the Safety Car enforces the rules that are so finely handed out at you web site...
This is not a lash at anybody, and i hope this is understood. I am the Team Owner of Alias Racing Team, and I praise myself on being a clean and fair racer, and i HATE incidents, and my worst fear is still taking out the race-leader of a race, i have tried it, but in that case it was proven to be LAG that caused that incident. It is not the intention to hurt or sell anyone out.
To end in hopefully the funny side of this ! What would happen if the Safety Cars in real life events didn't follow the simplest rules, you would instantly see a complaint from EVERY team manger on that particular grid. So now you get one, and i hope other team managers, will back me up on this. If we have to follow rules handed out to us, we surely expect them to be enforced, not only the penalties, but the little things as well.
The problem is, sorry to say, not mainly the drivers fault, its the Safety Car drivers fault, HE should turn on Pit Limier at the last split and let the field catch up, if not correctly in line, HE should do ANOTHER LAP...
This is a complaint about the race officials and the Safety Car drivers. Plus futher down, a note on experience in marshalling oval races.
I an tired of loosing out on EVERY single Start and or Restart behind the Safety Car... The rules CLEARLY STATES:
1) Races are started behind a safety car (hereafter SC), driven at pit limiter speed, in single file. All drivers must leave a gap of at least two (2) car-lengths to the car ahead during the parade lap.
In last 3 races this has not been the case... I WANT THIS TO BE CLEARED UP, either the rules change so that the last 1/4 of the lap is on Speedlimiter, or whole last lap, during the start of the last race we, and Unity got overtaken by 3 cars, unacceptable, because i was trying to drive on the limiter, but watching the replay the safety car is going i guess almost as fast as possible... I was trying to go by the rules and lost 3 places on the start...
Behind the first SC of the race, this was once again the case, not beeing overtaken, but we lost about 5-600 meter, because we once again were on PL as the rules CLEARLY states
2.6) Once the leader has entered the final sector prior to a restart, all drivers must close the gap to the car ahead to a distance of two (2) car-lengths and engage the pit limiter. Please give room and do not ride the bumper of the car ahead--excessive crowding may result in a DT. When the green flag is flown, the SC period and full-course yellow are ended and drivers may disengage the pit limiter and resume racing.
I am not looking for anything to be done for the oval race, i just want this to be taken care of before the last race, i drove half of the last sector on PL, still i was like 5-600 meters behind the car in front of me, and i did not disengage, cos i did not want a DT penalty. I'd rather loose 5-600 meters than loosing 2 laps on DT... Sorry to the once that thought i was a jerk on the track, but only trying to stick to the rules....
And on a different note, STOP WHINING ABOUT YOU PENALTIES, read the rules, Alias Racing Team had used like 1 hour to practise getting pitstops perfect, and we did...
ALIAS RACING TEAM recieved 0 (ZERO) penalties during the race, not even the penalty for the qualifying, where 8 were penalized... Have to say i was having fun every time a pitline crossing penalty was handed out, shows we did the correct preparation for the race...
Other than that, i think IGTC is very professional, and the rules are quite clear, and though it seems a bit boring, the Oval race was quite fun, to take it out of next years calendar would in my opinion be sad. Really a good strategy race, the only race in the calendar that is not all up to the driver, but also to strategy.
On a different note, driving ovals can be tricky, and dangorous, hence in real life marshalls look for damage on cars driving around the track, cos driver cannot allways know how the car looks on the out side, and here is a little tip to the marshals, damage is not dangorous in LFS, but a tire puncture is, and here is my point, either the marshals have to check tire condition, regularly driving on ovals, cos we had a puncture on left front tire on lap 111, but our driver couldn't feel a thing, and laptimes were as they should be... This finally resulted in a crash on lap 126, when the right front tire expired, taking out the Unity Racing entry, as we were on the inside of them when it happened... The driver didn't check the tires as our 3 one hour tests before the race, had told us that tires were not an issue, as they lasted 1 hour 20 to 30 minutes, but by my fault the tires were not changed, this i cannot blame anyone but myself, but IRL the flat left would have been caught by the marshalls... Hope you see this is not a complaint, but a heads up to marshalls in the event they have to marshall another oval race...
My final point here is, either the officials have to check tires on oval race, or each team should be allowed 1 spectator, to take care of our own cars...
Kind regards, and looking forward to round 8
Alias Racing Team
Frank Sonne
Looking forward to getting back in the MRT, haven't driven it before last race, but that is going to change, cs that is a fun little car to drive, and fun to race against others in
By the way stats and replays are now available in a better userinterface, find link under results thread one step back