http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=5659 and http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=3783 to find some other names as well

Last edited by Hawku, Thu 20 Dec 2007, 15:38.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Barely heel and toed at all - I counted twice

Im really sorry tristan if description wasn't accurate enough for you.

Last edited by Hawku, Tue 18 Dec 2007, 21:40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_a2W1jy2MM

Kankkunen driving, tristan moaning.

Dunno if ths is posted already, but couldn't find anything with search...

Last edited by Hawku, Tue 18 Dec 2007, 21:40.

Does everybody see bmw f1 antenna like this?
http://image.bayimg.com/baiaoaabc.jpg

I'll race too if there's room

spdoHuppis, Hawku

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Quote from Intrepid :

put it this way

If a drive through can be given for jumping the start by .2 of a second which would dramatically effect a DRIVERS points and position, yet a fuel infringement which can gain more time than .2 be punished by NOTHINg then surely questions need to be asked again of the FIA

Nothing? I only said they shouldn't mess up with drivers points, only team points.

Edit: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567

Now i can go to bed... Its almost 3am here already :/

Quote from Intrepid :

From what I can recall the FIA could not secure that any

1. Illegal parts were being run on the car
2. that parts on the car were designed with knowledge of the Ferrari materal

They ASSUMED quite a lot, but not could not really 100% prove it. The evidence was strong, but not conclusive. The element of doubt was very important ion this case.

However with the BMW, and Williams case the COLD hard evidence is there.

Let;s take another example. If I jump the start and gain what .250 would I not be punished with a driver through??? Surely an estimated 10hp advantage over 70 laps is WAY ON AND ABOVE .250.

If you gain an unfair advantage by driving 1. illegally 2. running illegal patrs or fuel you have to punished properly!

Oh, come on! Did they get 100 Million dollar fine from that? And did they lose all their team points?

Btw they assumed that 10hp advantage was like 2-3laps only cause the fuel heats up in the tank.

Quote from Intrepid :

You have to look at the case on it's own otherwise you become influenced.

Stepneygate is irrelevant to this specific case!

No it's not irrelevant.
In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a or other judicial body adopts when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts (from wikipedia).

Intrepid you can get the example from mclarens punishment in spying scandal. Again why should they take the points off now?
That case was like the pattern-setting model (dunno if that's right term)

Quote from Intrepid :

maybe we can think about it in the same way... i didn't totally deny this.

but we can';t somehow put aside cheating today because of SpyGate. That is just ridiculous!

We can think that spying case like a same kind of thing. They didn't touch the drivers points there and you think they should do it now? If bmw and williams drivers didn't knew about it and i really think they didn't why should they take points off from them?

Quote from Intrepid :

no of course not

but when someone cheats, they cheat... it's that simple... BMW and Williams have cheated, or had an illegal car run in the GP...

so if the fia knew that those cars would be running illegally before the race they would not have been allowed to start the race....

how come they would be able to complete it?

You can apply that same thing to that spying scandal too
If you really think bmw and williams should be disqualified you should think same thing about mclaren as well then

Quote from Intrepid :

For me what BMW and Williams have done is gained an unfair advantage... what I would call cheating... and what you could call in sim sense HACKING!!!

whats the difference guys?????

The guys didn't knew about that? Just like in that stupid spying scandal where Hamilton didn't knew nothing.. Do you think his points should be ripped off now?

Quote from Intrepid :

lol of course he would say that... !

Do you really want that Lewis wins his first title this way? You dont want him to win it in fair and proper way later in the future? I wouldn't want anybody to win championship that way :/

Alonso, is talking about that in a spaniard radio station, he say that it's preatty common that teams use frozen fuel, the rules say that the fuel can't be more than 10 degrees Celsius less than the air temperature.
Alonso said that in almost every race there are teams that are 11-12 degrees under and nothing happens.
He said that if Kimi is stripped from the title it would be a joke and the dead of Formula 1.

I totally agree

Well he could just pick one from list and say that he used his account?
Anyways should i see his lfswname in .spr with ctrl+shift? Because i cant in this replay

~90 with 206bw (20")

Btw Gentle theres something wrong with ur server :/

I'll be there!

Quote from MagicFr :

Guys.. be honest, it is more like that => ( see attachment )
That's why i use custom view.
I really dont like cokpit view, all of USELESS things in my pov : roof, dashboard( radio, other buttons), bottom of steering wheels etc....

You can change fov in those servers where forced cockpit is on

No, i've updated my graphic card regulary so it cant be that :/
And i havent seen anything like this in other games...

This happens to me from time to time. Does anybody know what causes this?

I tried to watch darkones as club hotlap and i got this when he entered pits... What does this mean?

Last edited by Hawku, Fri 11 May 2007, 15:10.

What is that song on that video?

Blah :/

Last edited by Hawku, Thu 12 Jul 2007, 05:14.