Quote from Nosser :

Hehe nice video
I already pitted 2 times before but I think I took the turn too late but I tried to brake, didn't see that? from 150km/h to 120 km/h or something like that, but I took it too wide, srry again for that

Yeah one little step on the brake didn't seem to help

Quote from Nosser :

Oooo what a shame
Incomming pits hitted the side and flew over the track and punished I tought hawku of the track So I want to say really really srry m8, Maybe I had to move to pit earlier but didn't saw that coming, really srry I hope you forgive me..

np

There's some coverage from your car -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3HDiGWnUAms
Seems like you have way too much speed there, but maybe you remember next time to go bit slower there...
And looks like somehow you didn't even tried to brake?

Last edited by Hawku, Sun 2 Dec 2007, 02:26.

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Quote from Hoellsen :

#1: Core Racing (#29): +2s on quali time for chatting
#2: spdo Racing (#16): Quali time disallowed for trying to abuse the possibility to reset the car on the server twice. Will start from the back of the grid.

That's just stupid... I only tried once that reseting and asked on the irc after if it was allowed, it wasn't so i didn't use it again. You guys shouldn't leave the resetting on in the first place.

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Sorry for my chat too...
I just hitted T accidently and posted something

Quote from Intrepid :

put it this way

If a drive through can be given for jumping the start by .2 of a second which would dramatically effect a DRIVERS points and position, yet a fuel infringement which can gain more time than .2 be punished by NOTHINg then surely questions need to be asked again of the FIA

Nothing? I only said they shouldn't mess up with drivers points, only team points.

Edit: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567

Now i can go to bed... Its almost 3am here already :/

Quote from Intrepid :

From what I can recall the FIA could not secure that any

1. Illegal parts were being run on the car
2. that parts on the car were designed with knowledge of the Ferrari materal

They ASSUMED quite a lot, but not could not really 100% prove it. The evidence was strong, but not conclusive. The element of doubt was very important ion this case.

However with the BMW, and Williams case the COLD hard evidence is there.

Let;s take another example. If I jump the start and gain what .250 would I not be punished with a driver through??? Surely an estimated 10hp advantage over 70 laps is WAY ON AND ABOVE .250.

If you gain an unfair advantage by driving 1. illegally 2. running illegal patrs or fuel you have to punished properly!

Oh, come on! Did they get 100 Million dollar fine from that? And did they lose all their team points?

Btw they assumed that 10hp advantage was like 2-3laps only cause the fuel heats up in the tank.

Quote from Intrepid :

You have to look at the case on it's own otherwise you become influenced.

Stepneygate is irrelevant to this specific case!

No it's not irrelevant.
In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a or other judicial body adopts when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts (from wikipedia).

Intrepid you can get the example from mclarens punishment in spying scandal. Again why should they take the points off now?
That case was like the pattern-setting model (dunno if that's right term)

Quote from Intrepid :

maybe we can think about it in the same way... i didn't totally deny this.

but we can';t somehow put aside cheating today because of SpyGate. That is just ridiculous!

We can think that spying case like a same kind of thing. They didn't touch the drivers points there and you think they should do it now? If bmw and williams drivers didn't knew about it and i really think they didn't why should they take points off from them?

Quote from Intrepid :

no of course not

but when someone cheats, they cheat... it's that simple... BMW and Williams have cheated, or had an illegal car run in the GP...

so if the fia knew that those cars would be running illegally before the race they would not have been allowed to start the race....

how come they would be able to complete it?

You can apply that same thing to that spying scandal too
If you really think bmw and williams should be disqualified you should think same thing about mclaren as well then

Quote from Intrepid :

For me what BMW and Williams have done is gained an unfair advantage... what I would call cheating... and what you could call in sim sense HACKING!!!

whats the difference guys?????

The guys didn't knew about that? Just like in that stupid spying scandal where Hamilton didn't knew nothing.. Do you think his points should be ripped off now?

Quote from Intrepid :

lol of course he would say that... !

Do you really want that Lewis wins his first title this way? You dont want him to win it in fair and proper way later in the future? I wouldn't want anybody to win championship that way :/

Alonso, is talking about that in a spaniard radio station, he say that it's preatty common that teams use frozen fuel, the rules say that the fuel can't be more than 10 degrees Celsius less than the air temperature.
Alonso said that in almost every race there are teams that are 11-12 degrees under and nothing happens.
He said that if Kimi is stripped from the title it would be a joke and the dead of Formula 1.

I totally agree

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Last edited by Hawku, Sun 21 Oct 2007, 13:01.

Wrong place

Not a good race from me

I managed to do my pb in quali and got 7th place in the grid (sixth after bawbag crashed in laglap). I kept my 6th for a while, but then Falcon tried to overtake me in really stupid way. He knocked me a bit, i spun and dropped to 9th place.

Lap 42 i totally lost concentration and crashed from a 10th place to that wall after the first corner. After that my car was almost undrivable and i tried just to drive last laps without crashing anymore.
So i finished in 20th place :/

Nice recovery from Bawbag in track where is really hard to overtake.

Well he could just pick one from list and say that he used his account?
Anyways should i see his lfswname in .spr with ctrl+shift? Because i cant in this replay

~90 with 206bw (20")

What's the password for that stream? Vlc keeps asking that :/

Btw Gentle theres something wrong with ur server :/

I'll be there!