Not gonna happen.....P-E-R-I-O-D-!!!!!!!!!!!

Sony owns 43% stock in Logitech. This was part of their settlement deal last January. It is IMPOSSIBLE for M$ to buy Logitech. I will stake my membership here at LFSForum on it.

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Care to share your gold shitting donkey for a day or two?

Dawg, trust me....I'm a broke ass ****. I barely get by on my check. I just save for the things I really want, like racing equipment

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isamu- the one thing that I find really exciting about your project, other than the obvious great equipment, is the incorporation of the Xbox 360 PCB into your design and the simple 25-pin connector swap to switch between PC/PS3 and 360.

I was asking Fanatec if they could sell us an add-on in the future to the Porsche wheel for the 360 instead of needing a full new wheel they are working on for the 360 in the future. However, due to M$ security chip and I'm sure a mountain of paperwork, it's not possible. But you and your buddy's solution makes me wonder if I end up using this 911 wheel I've ordered over the long term, if I might be able to mod it myself to do just this. I'd love to be able to switch out a cable connector for a second set of cabling run to the 360 wheel PCB and still use the great (for consumer) guts of this wheel, and more importantly, not have to swap entire wheel assemblies on my cockpit.

Do you or your friend have any details, links, or info on tapping into the 360 PCB I could study?

Thanks

Thanks for the kind words bro. Yeah, it's a long, arduous and involving project. Fortunately he's got the bulk of the work done already.

360 owners are longing, yearning, begging.....DYING to get their hands on a quality wheel! That's why instead of sitting back waiting for companies like Logitech and Microsoft to get their act together, I decided to take matters into my own hands. So many 360 users, particularly on the Forza 2 forum, love to complain about that piece if shit toy from M$, yet they're not willing to tackle a project as complex as mine. Just wait until they get a load of my ultimate FFB wheel

Anyway, if you are electronically inclined, and want somewhat of a decent wheel for your 360, I would suggest simply buying the POS M$ toy, gutting it, and using the PCB to connect to the Fanatec wheel. That's one way to do it. I couldn't help ya on electronics though... I farmed out my project to my buddy

Why is money an issue? If you love the sport you should be willing to sacrifice everything else you hold dear for it. I'm far from rich, but I will be willing to sacrifice nice clothes, shoes, colone, concert tickets, and other useless and trivial things in order to get all the high quality racing gear I want

OK a few comments I would like to make:



1)I was excited until I saw kamkorPL's vid. The wheel appears to make the same horrible "ZipZip" noise as all of Logitech's wheels do. Are you guys sure this is a belt driven wheel? Because the sound of it gives the impression that it's gear driven. Of all my pet peeves in FFB steering wheels, the ZipZip noise whilst turning left and right is the biggest one. It is annoying beyond belief.

2)My wheel is almost done, and I am so soooo happy I had the patience to continue to wait. My buddy's had some great progress getting my *WHEEL* towards completion. It is truly a belt driven, heavy duty, industrial beast of machinery, and is silent as a baby's butt. I don't think I will ever go back to a consumer FFB wheel from Logitech, or any other plastic toy wheels for that matter.


3)As good as my wheel's going to be, I am still expecting to buy Frex' new wheel when it hits this summer. His wheel looks to trump even mine, and that is no small feat. Mine will not have shift paddles, only a mounted separate gear gear shifter(TSW BTW) but that's cool because I hate using paddles anyway. I can't help but wonder why any of you decided to buy this plastic Fanatec wheel, with Frex' wheel right around the corner? I mean seriously, have you guys *seen what ShigeT has in store for us?*

4)For those of you who complain about shifters and pedals that come with these Logitech and Fanatec toys.....what do you expect? These are wheels that are made of plastic and are targeted towards console owners. Fanatec and Logitech will never manufacture an industrial quality set of pedals or shifter on par with the likes of ECCI, Frex, TSW, or A1. Why not simply purchase a set of ECCI pedals and an A1 H-gate shifter? They are the best of their bunch. I mean we're talking a PC system here....a system that, unlike a home console, allows you to plug in multiple controllers from several different manufactures. I don't see the problem.

Guys, why can't I get dxtweak2 to boot up? I double
the icon but nothing happens. I have my wired 360 controller connected but nothing happens

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Mewjoze grazias

OK I know this is a silly question but can someone post a direct link to patch X? I can't find it

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Why don't you download the latest version and test it for yourself?

Does the latest version contain the physics tweaks that were done in Patch U? Or do I need to download Patch U to obtain said tweaks?

Quote from geeman1 :

The tyres were tweaked back in patch U already (april 06).

Speaking of patch U, I don't remember whether or not I've already downloaded it. How can I check to see if I did?

Would you say the tweaks done in Patch U improves tire grip and if so, by how much? Does Patch U help make the game more accessible to kn3wbies?

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Also why were you driving that slow anyway?

Cuz I'm a kn3wb

Hello. Did patch X fix the "slippery tires at low speeds" problem? I tried playing the game about a year ago and just couldn't continue due to extremely low grip at slow speeds. I would spin out even at 20mph

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

NURBURGRING!!

Wait a minute....are you saying the 'ring is not in this game at all? If that's true, then that is inexcusable.

Thanks for the contribution, gentlemen

Quote from RichardTowler :

ummm where LFS stands in comparison, here are some of my thoughts

NR2003

LFS doesn't even come close, papy are still the only developer that have got the 'feel' of a simulation right (compared to others that is), the atmosphere and how it feels in general to play is much better than any other, but thats not to say the physics or the rest of it are the best.

GTR

art work, models, track design, visuals, sound, all walk over LFS, the sound been the biggest difference, at high speed GTR feels fine to drive too (don't all sims ), but completely blows at low speed, oh and it doesn't work online, well it does, but it shortens your life.

GTL

same as GTR, but I think the feel of the game has taken a back step, in terms of simulation, it feels more fake and plastic, than GTR.

rFactor

no idea, we'll find out soon.

iRacing

iRacing, what ever they do, will probally lead the next generation of racing sims, but we'll find out more when they release it, when ever that date is.

On LFS

LFS does some things very well, online code, the physics that have been done, are good, but they are not complete which makes some of the aspects of the sim pretty bad, ie driving any RWD car. What LFs really suffers from though imo, is a complete lack of 'racing' feel, it feels souless, like its just been programmed full of numbers, without any life inserted into it, this comes down to several aspects, visuals, sound, and feel, how the physics/motion what ever you want to call it, are transfered to the player through certain feelings you can generate, this is something papy have done the best, imo, and has not been matched.

Sim racing is sim racing, and therefore you have to fake certain aspects of the sim, to generate the realism, sounds odd, but thats how atleast I feel it has to be done.

There is more detail of course I could go into, but I won't bore you yet

interesting

Hello. I just started playing this game today. I don't have an FF wheel yet, so I gotta use an analog gamepad called the NeGcon from Namco. http://www.thocp.net/software/ ... gcon_controller_large.jpg


My question is, is it worth playing LFS with a gamepad? I'm just not enjoying it so far and the cars are suffering from severe understeer.

How do I give the cars a bit more grip and less understeer?

I'll be getting the Speed 7 FF wheel from BRD in November BTW