If anyones interested, steam are doing a Rockstar pack on sale,

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Does anyone know any FPS boost/tweaks? I can barely play the game at a decent FPS, even if the resolution is lowered

My Sennheiser CX 300's broke recently, Bought myself a pair of Ultimate Ears 170



Only £11 from Play, should be here Wednesday so If you haven't bought any by then I can tell you what they're like

Quote from coors68 :

Are these noticeable different frame rate from 8800gtx?

For the GTX260 heres a small review, though this review is very old and the newest drivers should help performance

http://www.overclock.net/graph ... tx-280-vs-gtx-260-vs.html

it is about 20-30% faster I guess?

I'm sure that the motherboard is fine? Im not totally sure on this though,

Wait for someone else

Edit- I have read that, PCI 2.0 cards are backwards compatible with all version 1.0a PCIe slots, and almost all PCIe 1.0 slots.

Last edited by lukelfs, Sun 25 Apr 2010, 17:51.

Quote from coors68 :

Budget should be $100~$250.

Thank you for fast replying.

If you want to spend the least amount,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app ... No=6017459&CatId=3670

or

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app ... No=4369730&CatId=3585

As I said not sure about ATi's

Well if you want a Nvidia then there are GTS250, GTX260 which are quite cheap for the performance,

I dont know any good ATi cards so will let someone else post them

What sort of budget are u on?

Quote from andRo. :

But it also doesn't state that it is All LFS Tracks, but only All tracks which can mean also tracks in real life etc.

Not exactly, I thought the idea was to make LFS look like the comp's idea, not paste LFS cars into other tracks..

Im not agaisnt the idea, just that the rules should be more detailed

I still voted for you anyway haha

Well, the rules state - Tracks: All Tracks

Not all entry's actually are on a LFS track, which should mean they are disqualified or what ever, so I think the rules need to be more enforced

Quote from matijapkc :

I don't havea 2nd screen, nor the money to buy one...
And I actually don't like playing games windowed, it sucks.

Doesnt PCWizard have a OSD?



or does it get covered by games?

I also want a OSD like this, I have EVGA precision which shows GPU but not CPU

Quote from boosterfire :

Erm, I don't really get why the difference is so big, there really shouldn't be any. Anyway, go for the safe bet, and assume it's the higher temperature (it most probably is). Just to give an idea, my current CPU temp is 50C, and the 4 cores are all at 47C.

Oh woah lol, I guess when I get my new Fan and paste it might help to balance them out?

Quote from Feffe85 :

If its stable in windows and apps and such, then try it in a demanding game. i ALMOST never use prime to check my oc's, i try it with games and that sort of things

And about the voltage i have no idea, i have NEVER increased my volt on the cpu. THAT'S one part of oc'ing i hate :P if i ever get watercooling i might change the volt and try to get closer to 5gigz..

EDIT: Gz btw, with ur first ( i suppose? *spelling*) overclocking

Hehe ty, I just ordered a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus and some Artic cooling 5, I will add another fan to the cooler,

Also what temperatures do u take for ur readings? The overall CPU or each core?

As the overall CPU temp is much lower than each core

CPU - 25C, Core 1 - 42C, Core 2 - 48C

Last edited by lukelfs, Sat 24 Apr 2010, 20:17.

Quote from Lynce :

I do not use external images in my editions.

And I changed my final entry under Joseph's permission. Doesn't to remove or add external pics. Only to work on the tarmac, sky and bridge from scratch. I only post the link to the inspiration, not a image who I use to put on the pic. A reference. (I added a link to the tutorial to make clouds from scratch).
Cheers, brother.

My vote goes to andRo. Amazing edit.

JJ72 and tazka.

Ohh, sorry , I got those mixed up lol

Quote from brandons48 :

How come skiper hasn't posted an Original External Image? I thought that was a requirement in the rules.


I voted for Lynce, it's amazing what he can do with LFS.

Neither does Lynce's edit, even though he did post it in the entry thread

This is incredible



An ad for an oil company, the 370Z was hand-reconstructed out of perspex, complete with semi-operational engine.

http://gizmodo.com/5522964/the ... -an-invisible-nissan-370z

Last edited by lukelfs, Sat 24 Apr 2010, 12:04.

Well at 1V and 1500 it crashed after a few minutes on prime95, does that mean I need more voltage? it only got to 50/57C which isnt very hot,

I put it back to stock volts and 1400 for now, till I get sufficient cooling

I voted for andRo. as it has the best looking 'showcase' as I love the atmopshere and the rims

Quote from Feffe85 :

Well i have an E8500 which stock is 3.16GHz, i have it running at 4.3GHz with no probs. Stable and all and i havent even changed the Voltage yet

The way i went was:

1. Up the FSB to an insanely high number (for me it was 470), tho i knew it wouldnt start (and a too high FSB cant hurt the proc).
   
2. After i started the comp at that FSB (didnt start tho duuh), i continued to lower the FSB by increments of 10 until it started and went into windows stable.
   
3. Rebooted and RAISED the FSB by 1 or 2 at the time and checked the highest possible FSB.
   
4. After that its just a mather of getting the right FSB:RAM ratio, as i only have 800MHz RAM it wont go over 921 or 931MHz :P
   

So tbh its mostly trial and error all the way xD Got it up to 4.5MHz without Voltage raise, but didnt stay stable for more than 4 mins..

SuperPI 1M PB @ 10.937s =D

Hey, I will try to change my FSB to 1600, which would give me 3.6ghz with stock voltages to see what happens, then try what you said,

I dont understand the FSB:RAM ratio stuff, as in Everest my 'Overclock' section says, DRAM:FSB Ratio 8:7, CPU FSB 350, Memory Bus 400 *Stock*

So i dont see how my ram is increasing when its not? lool

Edit- Ok I cannot get any higher than 1450 fsb with stock volts, my PC fails to start on anything higher :/, Should I increase the voltage slowly to see when 1500 fsb boots?

Edit2- I change my voltage to 1V again, now it boots in 1500 FSB, but is starting to get hotter now, So I will stay here until I buy a better CPU cooler , thanks for the help guys

Last edited by lukelfs, Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:11.

Ok, I put the voltage at 1.0V, and tried the FSB at 1500, the PC started to boot into windows, then bluescreened saying something like, windows prevented ur PC to start to protect hardware Or something along those lines

So I dropped the FSB to 1450 and the PC started and I am typing this now

iirc it said something about memory/ram, Could it be the case that my ram timing settings are Auto, should I enter these manually?

I read on a forum that I should..

Edit- Ive tested my PC with Prime95, the temperatures are now much higher that before, maybe I will start over at stock volts and fsb, and increase the fsb until it is unstable :/

Edit2- Ok I have reset my PC to stock speeds, I have left the voltage as it is at stock, and increased the FSB to 1400, running at 3.15ghz stock volts, will try higher soon

Last edited by lukelfs, Sat 24 Apr 2010, 09:38.

Quote from boosterfire :

The FSB increases the speed of not only the CPU, but also other devices on the board (such as memory). If done correctly, you should in fact see the memory frequency increase.

Other way around. You'll want to increase the FSB until the system becomes unstable. At that point, increase the Vcore slightly. There's no point in increasing the Vcore if the system doesn't require it. Of course, by stable system, I mean at 100% load.

Did you try with a voltage around 1v and the FSB over 1400? Again, try not touching the voltage until you really need to. My voltage here is the default one, despite the CPU being overclocked 500 Mhz. As for the cooling, the best way to check if it's alright is to get the computer under 100% CPU load, and see how high it goes. If it's within the specifications of the CPU, you're pretty fine. I think mine is said to be fine until 65C or something like that, and it goes up to about 55C under intense load.

Ok, I will put the voltage at 1v, and try to to get higher than 1400, Will report back with what happens , According to Intels website the CPU can go up to 72C, and the voltage range is 0.85V – 1.3625V, So I am kinda safe to stay in these areas, this image shows my CPU at 3.1 ... mps, lowest and highest

Will try to increase the FSB until it becomes unstable now

Quote from adamlfs :

Ok I see about the knifing.

But that enter button is a load of crap lol. I don't even have avg on it's off at startup. And I will always run game booster, so no idea whats wrong there... needs a fix.

Run avg then go to options and turn off resident shield, it still could be running in the background

Quote from boosterfire :

You definitely don't want to go from 0.9x to 1.3x or something like that. You want to take baby steps. 1.3x is probably over the specifications of the CPU.

My default core voltage is 1.35v, and I'm currently 500mhz over default settings without increasing Vcore. If I was going to get more mhz, I'd maybe increase the Vcore, but probably not over 1.40v.

Also, keep in mind that, unlike increasing the multiplier (which I guess isn't an option for you), increasing the FSB actually overclocks the whole board, not just the CPU. So every bus is actually working faster. That's nice, but you definitely want to be careful with that.

What do you mean the 'Whole' board, as I am just changing CPU settings, my memory is still at 800mhz, and my PCI-E is still 100mhz,

So if I want to get more OC, then I should slowly increase the voltage in small steps until the PC boots on the wanted FSB?

Edit- I tried to go at about 1.096v * May have been 1.196v *, and FSB at 1500, the PC started to boot then went to a funny bluescreen, so I rebooted into Bios, dropped the voltage to 0.99v and back to 1400 FSB, boots up fine, might wait and buy a better cooler to go abit further than this :/

Last edited by lukelfs, Fri 23 Apr 2010, 18:04.

Quote from hazaky :

Try not to go over 60°C

I got E8200, default is 2.66Ghz. I got it on 2.8Ghz right now, going higher will make it crash. I dont want to mess around with volts, so im stayng with current clock. I got Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro on it. People have got it to 5.2Ghz with stock air cooler

Edit: My idle temp is about 24°C and on max load its about 52°C

I was also looking at the Freezer 7 pro Rev 2, but according to some reviews the 212 plus is better, but it is out of stock atm,

I have read on the internet that for my motherboard to increase the voltage works like this,

cpu voltage= 0.0000 (this is in addition to the core voltage of x.xxxx)

So if im currently running at 0.96/8 then how much should I add to allow a higher fsb? Should I go up in 0.0010's?

Edit- Ok, If I add 0.200 Cpu Voltage that will give me 1.176V compared to 0.976, So this should allow me to get a higher FSB right? but at the cost of temperature?

Last edited by lukelfs, Fri 23 Apr 2010, 16:31.

Ok, I tried to go straight to 1600, but the PC failed boot and automatically dropped it to 1400, so my CPU is now running at 3.150mhz and the temperatures are perfectly fine,

So Im guessing I need to increase the CPU voltage to get to 1600, however in the bios there is only the option for CPU Voltage 0.0000v, max 0.30000v ?! So Im very confused as how I set the voltage to 1.296 for example, does that 0.30000 add onto my current value of 0.96?

Also can someone recommend me a good cheap CPU Fan? I've been looking at the Cooler master 212 Plus which is supposed to be very good for its price (£19), you can also add another fan to the opposite side..

Quote from Bose321 :

Try 1.296v.

This pic shows my current voltage at 3.0ghz, Link

This one shows where I should enter 1.296 correct? Link

I will try slightly lower than 1.296, maybe 1.196

Also what temperatures should I look at? The CPU? or Each core?

Last edited by lukelfs, Fri 23 Apr 2010, 15:28.

Thanks for the replies, however I did try to increase the FSB to 1500 which is 1500/4 (375) x 9 which makes 3375, it booted up fine but CPU-Z just said 3.0ghz still

I was going to try that speed first, then 1600/4 (400) x 9 which makes 3600, too see what happend, if it doesnt boot how much more voltage should I add? As at stock 3.0ghz the CPU uses 0.96-8 ?

Thanks!

Anyone? lol, I tried to change the FSB from 1333 to 1400, saved and exited, but in windows it just says 1333 still

Will try again