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MadCatX
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There is AONIO, VLFSDash, I'm sure anything using OutGauge will do...
MadCatX
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Don't take this the wrong way, I've been using Linux on desktops, laptops and servers for about 5 years and it's been doing an outstanding job for me. However, just because it works for me doesn't mean it has to work for everyone, right?
Quote from xfirestorm :Ehm...BS?

If RedHat/Debian/Slackware/Mandriva/(any other distro you prefer) were selling the hardware with their distro pre-installed, those too would be 100% user friendly. And since they're not, they're doing a pretty damn good job at being user friendly just as they are.

I don't consider my self exactly a pro, although I am an sysadmin by profession, but I never really had any major problems with *BSD or Slackware or it's KISS principles.

That's probably right, but hardware compatibility doesn't imply user friendliness. We surely could take this discussion to the next level and argue what the "user friendliness" actually is. Where I consider Windows getting in the way, others may think it helps them figure out what's wrong and how to get things fixed.
Quote from xfirestorm :
Read above.

Because we're all using our laptops outside in the brightest sun and tend to be upside-down in a weird angle while using our computers and this is very important to us.

In my eyes, 3 weak arguments on why I should buy a piece of hardware at 1.5x the price.

Weak for you, somebody else might find them good enough to get a Mac.

Quote from xfirestorm :
tl;dr
It's just a typical Mac vs PC thread as it seems, but since you started bashing my beloved unix-based linux, I had to stop by.

Well, yeah, every Mac X PC thread always ends up like this because people fail to understand that there is no one right way to do things and therefore no one right software - this is the point I've been trying to raise all along but nobody seemed to get it...
MadCatX
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Can you try it out with some other OutGauge mod then and check if it works correctly?
MadCatX
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It's rather puzzling, do other mods using OutGauge work?
MadCatX
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Quote from nosman90 :yes iam sure and now i change again but result same firstly program dont give error but when i exit pit program again give eror "critical: unknown error"

It would appear that LFS sends malformed OutGauge packets for some reason. Do you have LFS 0.6B?
MadCatX
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Quote from Bose321 :Windows.

Windows is not a definition but an OS family. I know it sounds like nitpicking, but just because Windows runs on 90 % of desktops doesn't make it "proper" in any way.
Quote from Bose321 :
You can install OSX on your PC just fine, why wouldn't you? Your macthingy is having normal PC hardware. How is it exclusive as none wants it?

It's not as easy as you might think. I tried it once in VirtualBox (which should actually be a better shot that an actual PC) and I wasn't particularly excited by the stability or performance because the drivers for non-Mac x86 hardware are of very variable quality to say the least.
Quote from Bose321 :
99,99% of the everyday user doesn't give a damn about what OS anything other then a desktop/laptop/tablet runs, so please use such irrelevant examples.

E. Reiljans mentioned market share so I wanted to establish what kind of market he was talking about... What does the market share has to do with what OS is the right one for a particular user?
MadCatX
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Highest market share where? Are we talking desktops(~5 % *NIX), servers(50+ % *NIX), scientific mainframes(100 % *NIX)? I agree that the user is always right which kind of relativizes the definition of "proper OS". If anything, it should be "what I consider a proper OS".
MadCatX
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A blank panel means the program is not receiving any OutGauge data. Are you sure you changed the OutGauge port both in LFS and ECMeter?
MadCatX
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Quote from E.Reiljans :Have you tried SUA in first place? It even supports emerge (and then basically you can install anything Gentoo repositories have to offer in it).

I have no use for SUA so I'm relying on referenced and documentation. SUA appears to be yet another UNIX implementation with its own specifics. I can't imagine it being useful for a corporate grade applications and the interprocess communication could be a nightmare. Where Windows uses named pipes, UNIX uses domain sockets, where Windows call SharedMemory(), UNIX uses mmap(), I certainly wouldn't want to debug anything mixing these together.

Quote from E.Reiljans :
You mean half as much as comparable Macbooks, right?

Quote from Bose321 :Not here. And it's faster, not made by Apple and it runs a proper OS. Enough reason to get that.

Perhaps the Xes are a bit overpriced here, but even the prices on newegg.com don't seem to favor the Thinkpads much. Just BTW, what exactly is a definition of a "proper OS"?
MadCatX
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It's good to hear that, please let me know if you run into any troubles related to the updated kernel driver.
MadCatX
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You just change the respective value in cfg.txt and ecmeter.cfg
MadCatX
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This happens when ECMeter receives an invalid OutGauge packet. Try setting OutGauge and ECMeter to another port.
MadCatX
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What does the error say? Do you have MSVC 2008 redist installed?
MadCatX
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@Vain + DieKolkrabe

This is what I find the most worrying about this case. I understand there are some international agreements concerning handing over criminals, but these apply when someone commits a crime in his country and then flees across the borders. I wonder why there aren't any comments on how could have FBI shut down what was AFAIK a Hong Kong company owned by a German citizen. I found a link to this over 70 pages long indictment, I didn't read it through but it struck me how none of the defendants is/was a US citizen nor any of the companies is registered in US. Apparently, when you're the US gov, the Internet belongs to you and is subject to US laws...
MadCatX
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LFS doesn't use any predefined torque curves, IIRC it just calculates the torque on the fly using some generic equations. The input parameters of the equations can be adjusted with LFS Tweak.
MadCatX
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Quote from E.Reiljans :It's as UNIX based as Windows w/ SUA.

It most certainly is not.
Quote from E.Reiljans :
Lol no. They don't compare to recent ThinkPad X'es.

Considering the Thinkpad Xes cost about as much as comparable Macbooks, how is that surprising?
MadCatX
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To get some torque curve you'd probably have to calculate it yourself using OutGauge and OutSim data, it would be rather crude but it could at least give you an idea what torque curves in LFS look like.
MadCatX
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Quote from Boris Lozac :It's interesting thought that "anonymous" is US Gov itself.. These actions by Anonymous give them more right to do all this, just like after 9/11 situation..

And how exactly are they going to use this to their own benefit? Are they going to ban IP's of quite possibly tens of thousands of computers? Are they going to censor the entire Internet traffic? Are they going to cut USA off the worldwide web?
9/11 allowed the US gov to introduce laws that were supposed to prevent such an event from happening again. Anonymous present a completely different kind of threat which cannot be fought with by SOPA or any kind of similar act... Still wonder why I find conspiracy theories hard to believe?
MadCatX
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Quote from tommer :
Sure, if you're the shallow kind of person who likes shiny objects that give you a false sense of social status, it is perfect. But I've yet to hear one genuine good feature about a Mac other than 'it's shiny'.

Ehm...
- The MacOS X is the only 100 % user-friendly UNIX-based OS? That's something an IT professional might find really useful.
- The OS is specifically tweaked to work with the HW found in Macs meaning better battery life, instant sleeping/resuming, no hassle with the drivers
- Quality of the displays found in MacBooks
- Lots of other little things you'd learn just by reading this thread

I'm not advocating Macs, I just consider this anti-Apple movement petty and stupid. If you don't like Macs, then don't buy any and stop coming off as such a douche...
MadCatX
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Quote from rowdog :I use Arch Linux and after today's update, LTWheelConf won't set the range. I usually use -r 270 but now it stays at 900. My guess is that it's the new drivers in kernel 3.2 but we also got a minor bump to Wine 1.37-1.1 so that's not out of the question.

You're right about the kernel causing LTWC to no longer work. The updated driver sets wheel's range to the maximum upon initialization, so when LTWC returns the wheel back to the kernel, the driver reinitializes the wheel and sets the range back to 900. Setting the range via sysfs is the preferred way now.
MadCatX
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Quote from Nadeo4441 :they deserve more of this http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/

LOL.... Go Anonymous. This time I believe that they cause some actual damage as I find the accusations against Megaupload pretty outrageous.
MadCatX
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www.megaupload.com

You believe it now?
MadCatX
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Quote from Test Driver :correct me when i write nonsens, but shouldnt Macos beat windows in performance in every single situation? windows has to be shipped as compatible as possible, supporting thousands of intel/amd/via cpu, i guess it doesnt even use sse because there are still some CPU around that doesnt support it. Mac os on the other hand was made especially to work with intels core2 and later processors, which all support up to sse3 at least, they can make use of all the neat features and instruction sets that modern x86 chips come with. it would be bad for for Mac os if its not faster than windows

MacOS X is indeed compiled with at least SSE2 support, but OSes don't do any kind of workload that would make them benefit from that much.

Quote from E.Reiljans :Fun fact: Windows not only supports and uses SSE, SSE2, SSE4 and SSE4, but it even supports and uses AVX instructions which ONLY are able to run on Intel Sandy Bridge and AMD Bull****r CPUs.

Windows supports SIMD instruction sets only to the extent of saving and restoring CPU register states properly.
MadCatX
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Any chance this could be a motherboard issue? Can anyone of you try the wheel with another computer?
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