Quote from J@tko :

Nope - you can come to one or both. Your best lap counts.

I was asking if we can participate only in Sunday qual session and none of our drivers will attend Friday session. And I guess from your answer that we can

ZION Team skin (#6)

Quick question about the rules. Team may attend only one qual?

ZION Team skin for test round:

Team Name: ZION Team
Number: 06
Car: FZR
Drivers
pit3k, P. Paczynski, POL
mroziu, R. Mroz, POL
achimpl, J. Dresler, POL
firebee, P. Schultz, POL

Really good race today.

6h it's nice portion of endurance racing And 3h to 6h make lot's of difference.

We got unlucky today since we got DSC in last sector what disallowed us to fight for better position (I won't mention my terrible performance in 1st stint )

Gratz to the winners and thanks to the admins since it's last race.

It was nice to get first endurance experience. See u next season hopefully

Quote from dekojester :

For Car 16 / Zion Racing Team:

I had seen your post before you deleted about tracker not updating with your new driver. We have fixed it and it should be updating now.

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Thank you. I've deleted post since I wanted to double check everything and suddenly all started to work

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
M. Paczuski [marcin84] POL
P. Joński [krecik91] POL
P.Schultz [firebee] POL

Quote from Mroziu :

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Model: FZR
Team Manager: mroziu
Team Vice-Manager: pit3k
Drivers:
P. Paczynski [pit3k] POL
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
J. Dresler [achimpl] POL
M. Paczuski [marcin84] POL
P. Joński [krecik91] POL
J. Lindner [QBi] POL
P.Schultz [firebee] POL

Added P.Schultz

To be precise. We read the rules but it's seems that we didn't get them right.

I was thinking about this rule in the way like it was at season start (were all the teams had no IGTC or MoE participants in their lineup). Our team was no MoE or IGTC team at the season start so there was nothing to think about it right then (when filling GTAL application). We advanced to be a IGTC Team in the middle of season so I was thinking it won't be a problem to finish currently started GTAL season. But it's turned out that I was wrong.

So I proposed a rule change that doesn't change overall sense of "No IGTC and MoE participant in GTAL" which I think is right (this is what GTAL was all about). Proposed rule change was a small addition of "at season start". So if teams or drivers advance to MoE or IGTC (and NEVER started there before GTAL season start) it would be nice to allow them to finish the season, since nothing really has changed from time GTAL season has started. In my opinion it was really small change - since it doesn't change anything in terms of competition.

But ok, you are the admins so if u reject to modify the rule I'm fine with that. But it we be hard for ZION to get no IGTC participants lineup for last round

ZION Team is in same situation as Capo ARG but in our case almost all our drivers that are available now has driven in last IGTC race.

GTAL has been developed as a result of many many teams excluded from this year IGTC (lack of places). Our team was in same position as rest of teams that started this GTAL season with no experience in professional endurance racing. And now, before last race we are in situation that we can't finish competition, which is kind of weird.

In my opinion this rule should state like this
- No driver in the lineup had participated in the current or previous MoE or IGTC season before GTAL season start or before application to GTAL was filled (whatever occurred first). In case of adding driver to line up those rule applies to moment that driver was added.

In this form this rule would exclude all previous IGTC and MoE drivers from entering the season (And this probably what this rule is all about) and allow all the teams to finish started season. And in next season (if occurs, what I personally hope so) all those drivers will be automatically excluded from GTAL. So would be amateur league, but team on waiting list on other leagues can take their chances to enter IGTC or MoE.

Please consider this rule change to allow all the teams for finish current season with theirs original lineups.

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
P. Paczynski [pit3k] POL
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
J. Dresler [achimpl] POL
J. Lindner [QBi] POL

And what is yours IRC chanel?

edit: We don't have password too. Your site is denying access.

Last edited by Mroziu, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 16:28.

Quote from Mroziu :

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
P. Paczynski [pit3k] POL
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
M. Paczuski [marcin84] POL
J. Dresler [achimpl] POL

Added J. Dresler to line up.

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
P. Paczynski [pit3k] POL
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
M. Paczuski [marcin84] POL
J. Dresler [achimpl] POL

Last edited by Mroziu, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 15:19. Reason : Added J. Dresler

Server reboot was only option since none of the switching drivers could not probably get into server. We got DSC early in the race and none of our drivers could get back into server. So it the race would go on there would be massive problem around 1h mark (when teams would like to change drivers).

Good decision by admins!

Quote from VTiRacing :

Admins, you failed @ this point of rules.

Server lost connection to master server at lap 11 (or even earlier). I was posting on 18:21 that we are unable to get back to the server. So it was before 30 minutes mark. And since we should restart from 3h mark, i don't see where admins failed.

But there was one problematic point in this race. There was not enough slots on the server! I was trying to get in for 3 laps until i got to the server. With all drivers and admins there were only 5-6 slots for switching drivers. That is not enough. Hopefully this can be fixed next time, since we were near ruining our race (i managed to get into the server where we had no fuel for another lap).

In general it was pretty tough race for us. We we fighting around 15 place for most of the race, but tire lost 3 laps before finish caused 4 places lost, so we are not particularly happy with the result. Hopefully next round will be better for us.

Host is fulll - not enough slots

Can remote be attached to server?

My team member got dsc and we are not able to join since GTAL server is not on master server ...

EDIT: I think we should stop fix this and start again since no drivers can change seats now ...

Remote gone - can this be fixed?

Quote from Trekkerfahrer :

was a fault by me, sry..... corrected

Still looking wrong to me, but hopefully it will be ok durring the race.

EDIT: It's ok now

Last edited by Mroziu, Sat 9 May 2009, 17:58.

Should tracker data be accurate in this moment? Our team (16) has one person wrong - P.Paczynski (he will be not driving) should be replaced with (R.Mroz)

Team Name: ZION Team
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
R. Mroz [mroziu] POL
J. Dresler [achimpl] POL
M. Paczuski [marcin84] POL
J. Lindner [QBi] POL

In general it was pretty good race for us. I got lot's of nice fights in first hour of racing. Biggest problem for us was SC lap when on last chicane we lost two positions when i was forced to stop because of car pileup at front of my car and cars behind me overtook me there. I think there should be one more SC lap in this situation.

Most people are complaining about blue flags behavior. But rules are clear in that matter. Lapping car have to present normal overtaking and lapped car cannot defend position (but race on normal racing line) and allow lapping car to pass (mostly by breaking earlier on straight). Only in this way all cars in the field can keep good pace. And this is why blue flags are working differently form other races and leagues. So I don't think that rules are responsible for blue flags problem, but drivers used to common meaning of blue flag.

Last think I was surprised was lack of live tracker.