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MudPuppy
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Quote from jasonmatthews :On windows 7, Superfetch is default to delayed start apparently, but as soon as it does come on, it will fill all the available memory with your programs, which is 2.5gb in my case, which is quite a bit, and it will continue to do this in the background, albeit alot less after the initial "thrashing"

I wonder if there is some sort of bandwidth issue here? I mean, I don't know what you have on your system, but assuming it's nothing too exotic, and equally not whatever the opposite of exotic is, then maybe something is slowing everything else down and making it go nuts?

I think I put 800Mhz ram in this one, and a modest Sata 3 HD, it's all on the Asus P5q Pro, and running at whatever that likes to run at out of the box (I can't recall as that was a particularly busy year ago!) but I'm having none of this sort of thing going on, and I can't really imagine 4 cores making that much of a difference either, as once you got 2 your'e already doing better enough in general. Can't remember, are you on 32 bit or 64 bit, not that this would be hugely likely to upset things this much either, well, most of the time.

I like a challenge, but this one seems real odd! Must be something I've not been able to realise yet. This is the retail one released a day or two back isn't it, not that other build 7600 pre RTM that some folk were using in the later stages of the test cycle.
MudPuppy
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Quote from logitekg25 :thats pretty sad

Damn, I got that wrong then, it was meant to be funny but only because I was not too serious, but trying to deliver it "deadpan" as they say, that is harder to do than I realised when doing it in text!

I was trying to point up how long it was getting to be between updates, and that I sometimes think of this when there is enough time, like on a straight!

I most often spend that time wondering which new and surprising fashion I will spontaneously find to screw up the next corner with!
MudPuppy
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Quote from jasonmatthews :Yeah I also had an issue with Asus Smartdoctor. For some reason it had eaten up 50% of my cpu when I took that screenshot. Uninstalled it now anyway just in case

AHA! Now that would probably not have been helping at all. Actually I don't use any Asus software that I can find a way to avoid using. I hand picked one or two drivers from the CD, right away after the initial install, but that was it. I seem to recall, chipset drivers at first and NIC and maybe audio, oh and probably the core USB driver I think it was, simply to get started, then I let windows update come up with better ones submitted by the various makers to MS during the earliest stages of test period. (Still on the beta at that stage)

Sure enough one by one they got replaced. In one case windows had a fix to provide a work around for the product, and that was for the chipset I think. The nature of the problem or the fix for it never truly became apparent during the test period, it just got fixed.

Now in truth some things were perhaps a little less than ideal at first but pretty quickly they all became totally useful. Not long after that the RC was released and this was pretty much routine by then, that went much more smoothly.

Only one bit of third party kit totally failed to get fixed and that was the Wacom serial port Pen Partner graphics tablet, and in hindsight I do understand very well why that is so, and even why the makers decided to end support for it, which is in itself a bit unusual, but some new features in Win7's very near future would always have dictated that, and when replaced things will be very much worth the losing of that one item. It's a blow of course and it'll be some time till I can afford to replace it, but that is another story.

Overall, my tip would be to loose the original makers stuff where ever possible and pick stuff that has been designed with win7 in mind, the results are so clearly worth it once you do.

Looking back, it's a good job MS did it this way as I was absolutely ready to dump MS if they really messed up this time, and that is partly why I agreed to be on the test program in the first place. I never went to Vista and still maintain that was a good move on my part. I like the new kid as much as I liked XP Pro, and perhaps a little more as it surely has a future ahead of it now. It took a week or two for the new one to prove itself to me, but after that and some mind set adjustment on my part, it went just great.

Oh and a last tip if anyone is still struggling, the latest Skype now works with Win7 and without any messing around, I got that yesterday and it's relief to finally have that option back again.

Anyway I just hope that gives some extra insight and some hope to you that it can all be alright as long as you find and learn the right path through it all for the hardware you have. Hope it helps.
MudPuppy
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So, to sum up, carry Swiss Army Knife or NOT carry Swiss Army Knife!

Non stop nightmare isn't it?!
MudPuppy
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Well, having taken the chequered flag for the half century some while ago, I wonder if I will live long enough to see this sirroccy thingy, or any other new content, especially of a dirt based variety.

Or indeed if the arthritis will get to me before the next proper update does.

Will I still remember how to drive by then or will that disease I have forgotten the name of have gotten to me and I will no longer remember how to do it? Then again, will I still remember how to drive by then or will that disease I have forgotten the name of have gotten to me and I will no longer remember how to do it?
MudPuppy
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Quote from cultrarius :not tryin to be the smartass here

For sure, it's nice to figure out a puzzle isn't it?

Quote : but i dont see much difference between sf on or off

Well yes, apart from what you would expect, agreed

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but i see you guys have lots of processes running
ofc i dont know what you were doin when you made those screens
but i think its still a huge amount if i compare it to mine

Can't speak for Jason, but I wasn't doing anything much, I was simply reading the post and taking the grab of the requester to post so he could see another example, but with it on; and as you say, there is not much difference beyond that which anyone would expect.
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even if there are no problems performance wise
u might be able to still improve it a bit by turnin off some services / remove stuff from autostart

Well yes, but then you are starting to stray into conflict with the golden rule of "if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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running Win7 Prof. x64 btw

That's what I want too, soon as it shows I'll grab one. I may then trim any obvious fat which I spot since that will go on a production machine at that point. Not much point me looking into that before then. I put plenty ram into it so that the first Gb or so would satiate the OS entirely, and the rest is enough for me to play about with. That seems to have worked out just fine so far.

I have not had a chance to play with the virtual thing yet, did you? I'm curious about it, but I don't think I'll be needing it, but hey, you never know!

Hence first one I do will be Pro, and for others after that I think Home Premium is a far better bang for the buck, and as long as you got one using Pro it can fill in any gaps which appear if they should turn up later.

So far the compatibility mode stuff has seen all but the truly hopeless cases work out just fine, I'd imagine the virtual XP might have even taken care of those, but other events happily took care of them before I needed to find out anyway.

Oh well, no idea what's going on with that problem on Jasons' machine. Even with all the info I initially asked for I'm not able to be 100% sure I'd find anything, it is most odd.
MudPuppy
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Yeah Jason, I follow what you say right enough. I'm including mine, and as we would expect it does use more for cache. Thing is, why isn't that causing a problem here?

Something sure seems to have your CPU busy.
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MudPuppy
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Quote from jasonmatthews :
Windows might take a little longer to load, as will firefox, LFS etc, but they will be much quicker when they do load. Also you will notice that your memory usage in task manager/performance will go down dramatically, as it no longer caches gb's of data into memory that you don't need.

Most odd, and sorry to learn of this, as I am thinking of buying Win7 myself soon. Actually the only thing stopping me is that the version I want has yet to show up as being available in my preferred distribution channel.

For now I'm still running the release candidate (7100) and I have SF switched on but I don't see Gbs of data in there, quite modest usage in fact. LFS is just fine.

Which version/build of Win7 are you running there? Might have a bearing on it I guess.

Are you certain you are not confusing this with the indexing early boot activity? That one can be a bit of a horror for a few seconds after booting sometimes.

Perhaps posting a machine spec might help someone spot if there is anything potentially making things worse.

You did do a fresh install too didn't you? I mean, if it's an upgrade then ALL bets are off, this is the sort of thing people warn you about with that, and why.
MudPuppy
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :****, you guys have inspired me to create a Twitter Insim app, so we can tweet every lap we do!

You might find it a good idea to reconsider that; I'm normally quite nice about it when I lap people, but I don't see anything in the rules about HAVING to be!

I'm sure many others might take a similar view if a need became apparent.

Have you ever noticed how interesting car handling can get when steered from both ends on the dirt?
MudPuppy
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Quote from NotAnIllusion :Don't tempt fate..

yeah, now you mention it - DOH!
MudPuppy
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Quote from The Very End :Oh and rallycross is a contact sport

Absolutely, that can happen from time to time, but not contact(s)! :littleang
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MudPuppy
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I was just taking the view that's it's safer with it off for all the same reasons that it is true in real world.

I don't for one moment imagine real world rally cross participants text each other, and this is meant to be a sim isn't it?

Or is the chat meant to a mobile phone sim that is built into the car sim?!

What next, a twitter sim built in too? Imagine people tweeting during a race!

What ever goes on in a race, I figure we can always talk or argue about it in the bar afterwards, and that sounds much closer to the real thing to me.
MudPuppy
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I'd also suggest Win7 Pro, I think I am right in saying it is the cheapest of the win 7 range that has that XP virtual machine thing capability, so one way or another you got more things covered from old stuff to new stuff.

I've run 7 since the early part of this year and I have to say it's been fine. All my other machines are XPPro, as I was a Vista refusnik, so I am definitely not saying Win7 is fine lightly! It really has been fine, unconditionally.

Stay well away from Win7 upgrades though, a fresh install is the only sensible choice with this one.

You picked a pretty good time to be doing all this really.

Oh and Q6600(or a little better) quad is probably worth a quick look over at least (not needed but it's nice to have a little extra in hand for future). 4Gb ram is also pretty reasonable about now too.

Have fun, and I hope it helps.
MudPuppy
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Thanks to both who posted about killing chat altogether, sounds very handy indeed, shall try it next time I'm in the car.
MudPuppy
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All this raises another question too - how can you turn off chat completely?

I never want to chat or see it when I race.

In my country it's illegal to be caught using txt when driving anyway - this is supposed to be a simulation isn't it? That's what loads of folks on here keep telling me. That being the case, there really should be a fine to go with getting caught doing it too.
MudPuppy
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Yeah, the more I think about it, it makes sense for the community to make more of LFS for themselves. If the devs would help out a bit when we hit a rock in the road, then the users would help out making fresh content in terms of coming up with fresh rally stages, albeit with some rather limited sub set of tools and the right textures to make it halfway credible, much like autocross.

I could see say ten servers being traversed one after another; maybe ten teams having a server each in that chain. Make it team disqualification for a server to be publicly open with the race section before the first driver needs to use it in the event. No driver partaking can be a member of more than one team. That way each team could practice their own section in private but only ever get to see 10% of the entire racing surface before the event.

The number of entries you had going on your 3 events is impressive enough to show that people would probably join in, in reasonable numbers too. I'd guess that it looked viable at that time.

We need some coders and some discussion somewhere now. I've not been into LFS long enough to know in detail what is and what is not possible. I stopped coding about 20 years ago (burned out).
MudPuppy
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Quote from Flame CZE :But what about realism? It's a simulator.

Having an option would not remove that, that's why options are, more often than not, better.

As for the sim versus game debate, this is most probably not the place to get all playground about it I don't think.
MudPuppy
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Quote from Inouva :Sorry, but i think is a mistake remove complety the "Shift up" red dot, so sudenly...

Agreed, rules are OK, but options are always better.
MudPuppy
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I could see somehting like autocross working pretty good here, in nature, but not in content obviously.

I can imagine a number of servers hosting an event sequentially, and drivers hopping from one section/server to another in sequence as they complete each section.

Those sections would be put together from basic components by those running each server. Like auto cross is done right now.

It should be set up so that no one would be able to practice a whole event in advance.

I could see this approach working around many of the short comings mentioned here.

Obviously we would need a mechanism to carry over damage accumulation from one section/server to the next for the duration of one event.

The less we need to demand from devs then the less reason for them not to let us have a play with what many of us clearly want. For them the developing of a whole race and stages would represent quite a considerable investment, but given the basic parts & tools to work with, we can lighten that load like a real community can and would want to. Also this could allow it to evolve into what most people are looking for in this area of motorsport.

We just need to acquire and maintain a realistic perspective on our own wish list really.

If any others have anything to add to how this could be tackled then we could start a new thread I guess. I would prefer not to hijack this one. But this is a concept we could discuss further. If anyone wanted to discuss it enough to start a thread then I'd certainly be agreeable to participating for sure. I'm simply not sure of the best place and how to do it properly. Maybe a kind and thoughtful mod would be able to advise best on that, and perhaps even wield their experience to start it in the right place with a sensible title?
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MudPuppy
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Yeah, you're right of course, but it's never going to happen!
MudPuppy
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Quote from NightEye :Thanks, MudPuppy. And sorry for the late answer

I've got a G25 now, and I love it. Much more responsive than the Sidewinder. Feels really natural to drive with (as I'm used to a manual car).

No worries on the late answer, I've been a bit preoccupied with a wall trying to fall off of the back of my home!

Glad you got one you like. Hope it didn't do too much damage financially.
MudPuppy
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Quote from mumu :Here is a list of all GPUs since the Voodoo Rush sorted by performance:

http://www.3dchip.de/Grafikchipliste/Leistung_Graka.htm

It´s not perfect but it gives you a very good overview and it really helps with the name confusion in the market.

Actually, perfect or not, it does provide a very interesting insight!

Thanks for that.
MudPuppy
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Thank you all, got it sorted out now with your help!

Feels good being able to kick AIs when they get stupid/horrible - are they the most annoying thing in this world or what?
MudPuppy
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Quote from Dalek0220 :Press T or / on the keyboard. Shouldn't you already know that? XD

In reverse order:

No? I'm learning not teaching!

OK, thanks very much, I'll also ask the other guru on our server, he knows a little bit more than I don't!

Lord I hate having no clue!
MudPuppy
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Thanks for quick replies both, erm, I'm too newb to figure out how to use the answer!

I type that in somewhere I bet!? Um, where?
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