Quote from Stiggie :

Is it just me, or does it look exactly the same.

it looks better to me
its not suppose to look completely deferred from MW1 its a sequel.

new multiplayer video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PMRFkx07g

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

I dont think Rewind will get added to multiplayer.

Think about it. For your car to be "timewarped" back to a good spot, it would surely mean all the other players would also be "timewarped" back to a certain spot. If however, it only affected the one guy who was doing it, it still would not work. I could only imagine it rewinding you back to a spot, only for it to put you on the racing line resulting in your car being smashed into. I seriously doubt Turn 10 would be so stupid to put the rewind feature in Multiplayer.

I may be wrong though, although i hope i am not.

on one of their e3 vids they said that rewind would only be for single player and hotlapping.

you didn't say it had to be car engines
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dm9z9.jpg

i just noticed this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... w_0W0&feature=related
wow this is awesome

Quote from jrd.racer :

can the XBox 360 controller work with grid?

im sure it can, if it don't work you can always map the controls with Xpadder,

i would take this, very nice price for what you get with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16834152087

mine was from my old runescape account (i know...:really

i would take that car any day

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

It's true though. It's a basic math exercise to see that the PS3 is cheaper. Why should I shut up when I'm right and can provide evidence.

PS3 may be cheaper, but xbox is much better, if you ps3 breaks, your out of luck.
if you xbox breaks(which don't happen much anymore) you get it fixed for free.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Do it, then you won't haffto spend another 100$ for WiFi, and 60-120$/year for Online, and if you get the "Arcade" model (that's 200$), that's another 60-100$ for a hard drive. Bringing the total well over a new PS3.

BUY A PS3. YOUR WALLET WILL THANK YOU!

50$ a year.

Quote from Arsenic_Fox :

Well, actually, we don't know how GT5's physics are. The games not done, so how are we actually comparing 2 games together when one hasn't even been released?

Sure we have GT:P, which is like a girl showing her self off a little bit, but still keeping it PG-13 (at least.. to the very extent of PG-13, without breaking that barrier). But it's nothing like seeing the real deal. =/ GT:P was just a look at whats to come, therefore, both our arguements are null, void, and to be honest, make no sense.

We can't compare a game that is out to a game that isn't even finished or even been released, let alone make the statement that "their physics are the same". If you actually think about it from a broad view, most physics done in racing games are around the same, it's really all a matter of who can put it all together properly and realistically.

=/ So.. really, we've been arguing about nothing.

EDIT: And forza is more about car modification. GT5 is more about being a car/racing enthusiast. =/

just wait till forza 3 comes out in stores, try the demo(if you can) and turn all assists off and tell me if its a arcade game.

Quote from JJ72 :

maybe he means collision physics.

yea, grid crashes and visuals + lfs physics = awesome

take a look at this tornado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEUXr6FMtWk

awesome
i new the car was not the only thing slowing you down, have you done anymore work on bumpers/wings falling off?

wow, they can happen anywhere, any time
http://www.wane.com/dpp/weathe ... ught_on_tape_200908211135

Quote from Arsenic_Fox :

forza... is not that great tbh. It's fun, yes. Incredibly. Customizable, lot of things... but... GT does so much more

Not only does Gran Turismo do a lot more than just "the same car, just slightly different", they do road tests of each car

They drive each car, doing different things like drift and such. They drive them out in the rain and if applicable the dirt.

They study each individual tidbit of each car to a point of extreme detail. They sleep under their freakin desks for years on end for christ sakes.

and to berate GT5 as you guys are is a shame to programmers and modelers everywhere. The work Polyphony pulls off is quite epic, and probably hold the highest standards out of any gaming company, period.

The game isn't just meant for gamers. It's meant for car enthusiasts. Sure, they have cars that are similar, but maybe I want to drive a few different road cars that are similar. They include the slightly different cars for a reason. It's because someone will want to. I mean, I remember in GT4 that i could get a '92 Mitsubishi Lancer. Not a great car, but i felt comfortable driving it. It drove a lot like my car did.

I like games that add the details. Sure they might not be able to perfect everything, but with the amount of work they HAVE done, it's still an epic game, and STILL better than Forza.

Maybe not for a gamer, but for someone who loves cars, and wants one that pays attention to detail in both look and feel.

Plus, forza comes out with a new game like, what, every other year?

How long has it been since polyphony came out with one? I'm sure they didn't just sit around and play solitaire all day.

oh i guess we should praise all of GT5.
i will stick with forza 3(which will be better than GT5 in physics and everything. )

Quote from Bose321 :

Bleh, look on torrent sites. All sort of games for all consoles there, or didn't the microsoft and sony realise that yet? They all think only people download for PC?

you can't play downloaded games on xbox 360 or ps3 unless you mod it(which will get you banned from xboxlive/psn)
EDIT: i tried it, it was alright, the trophy truck racing was fun

Last edited by mutt107, Thu 20 Aug 2009, 22:46.

new interview
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/p ... y-2-At-GamesCom-2009.html

IGN preview.

Quote :

August 19, 2009 - The gang at DICE know something about making multiplayer shooters. Having dominated the genre with the successful Battlefield franchise, they're currently hard at work on Bad Company 2, the sequel to their modern-setting game. Patrick Bach, senior producer of the project, gave us some insight today into how the team is hoping to make the new game the best in the series' history thanks to six key components -- sandbox gameplay, vehicle combat, squad based tactics, destructible environments, kit customization and achievements. The sandbox appeal of the game relies on large landscapes but Patrick is quick to point out that size isn't the only factor that matters; lots of games can have big maps, but the challenge is to pack them with enough interesting detail to give players interesting places to play. There need to be houses and villages for the infantry, large open spaces for the vehicles and no golden routes that force players into predictable paths. Still, there do need to be balanced pressure points for the maps, particularly with modes that focus on controlling key areas


The size of the maps also supports vehicle play. The game will include 15 vehicles that run the gamut from tanks to boats to helicopters to ATVs. 15 isn't just an arbitrary number, though; the team wants to make sure that each vehicle has a purpose and a unique tactical impact on the game. The Black Hawk helicopter, for instance, can transport up to four soldiers to distant parts of the battlefield, which makes it a crucial tool in your armory.
Squad elements have been substantially improved since the original Bad Company. Players can now spawn next to their four-person teams and use special push-to-speak controls to send commands to specific members of the fire team. There were also be unique achievements and rewards for team play. Best of all, the game has done away with the global spotting system, so now you'll have to spot each enemy individually and even get close enough to see whether or not they're a friendly or an enemy. The final two of the game's four total modes will also rely heavily on squads but DICE didn't reveal more details.



In terms of destruction, Bad Company 2 is miles beyond what we've already seen. The tactical advantages of cover are much less certain now as tanks, grenades and even rifle fire can tear through objects in the game world. The upside is that blowing up walls and buildings can help players create their own fire points and open up new lines of sight. The potential for this to completely change each battle is huge, and we're hoping it doesn't just all end up with players climbing over endless fields of rubble by the end.



Kit customization is another integral part of the experience. With four classes -- assault, recon, engineer and medic --, more than 40 weapons (including three classics for 1943 owners), 200 weapon customization options, 15 gadgets, and your choice of two of 13 different specializations, players can really equip themselves according to their own needs and not the expectations of the designers. So if you want to be a medic with an M1 Garand, a defibrillator, a stamina boost and a few extra clips, you can do it. Or you might be an engineer with mortar strikes and improved armor. Or a recon soldier with motion sensors and red dot scopes.


The new achievements are grouped into four broad categories. 50 ranks measure your overall score and progress through every stage of the game. 40 pins provide rewards for performance within an individual round, like getting a certain number of kills. 228 stars rank your performance with each individual weapon, so you can see where you and your opponents are strongest. Finally, 40 insignias reward the long term investment of players with recognition of things like the length of time played overall.



Fans of the game can try it out on the show floor or wait until the upcoming beta is launched, which was announced during our demo.

1- Forza 2(soon to be forza 3)
2- LFS
3- burnout paradise

only top 3 for me.

Quote from beefyman666 :

I bought another 4200 when TLAD came out, the rest of the points then I bought all of the Forza 2 DLC, PGR4 content and some other little things that I don't remember.

This time I bought Trials HD, a few car packs for TDU and i've still got just under 2k points left over.

get shadow complex when it comes out.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

GT will also have full damage model, PLUS the interior damage for 170 cars.. Bits will fall off, etc...
Forza can have a better physics then LFS and iRacing combined, the fact that i can't play it with a proper wheel is a huge fail, period..

the porche wheel.

i still think forza will be better, but we will see.
forza gets a full damage model for every car.

Quote from Vinnylegends :

Playstation 3

aww, if you were on 360 we could squad up on multiplayer.