Thomas,

I havent got any email anymore. I had a crash on my hard drive just about when I was making a back up. So everything is lost. No voucher code, your email etcetra, etcetra.

Thomas can you sent me the adres for return shipping ? I have a beta wheel which is laying around here doing nothing. Its useless without a firmware so beter send it back. PM me or through email.

Quote from oqvist :

But you guys have the wrong view on things... When you got to try the beta wheel it was very clear it was a beta test. You signed to try it out it was voluntary and hasn´t cost you a bit. You regret that you ever got to lay hands on the wheel I assume then...

Beta wheels have issues if they wouldn´t neither logitech, Fanatec or anyone would produce prototypes and let people use them and find errors that don´t exist. It costs money for sure and there is no return if there weren´t any issues.

It was a superb bonus you actually get to keep them for free not having to send them back. Also fair to let you buy the retail wheel for half the price. But really how can you judge the retail wheel from the beta is beyond me. Trust me you will never ever buy anything that is beta then if you go by that. Then you had no clue what it was you signed up upon.

Now I guess you have to pay full price to get it but that is just fair because of your lack of faith in Fanatec . They will get the people like me and others who has the retail wheel already and see that the centering issues are gone so you don´t need fanatec to send another freebie your way you had your chance and missed out on a great opportunity

Get the G25 if you preferred the feel of it for sure the wheel is quite identical minus the centering issues. Pedals are a lot better now and on par with the G25 in term of feel for sure. Durability is yet to see of course but the pedals don´t quirk or anything so hopefully they will hold up better. You should buy one just for seeing how much the pedals has improved and sell on ebay or something if you still preferr the G25.

Hmmm might be. I agree on having a beta wheel you end up with issues. But they should at least sorted the problems with the beta wheel first and then do me a offer. Secondly why did thomas promise stuff he would send to me during beta test ? Like pedals a new dongle but he didnt. He also asked me to write down another review after the first 1 I made, which is downloaded over 400 times right now. He never answered. I have said it before, why should I trust the guy then on his word if he even doesnt do things he said to me ?. And how in the world can I rewrite a review with the same wheel ?. I have to buy 1 ?. And keeping such a wheel for free you call a big bonus ?, a wheel that doesnt work a big bonus ? Thats the opposite world m8. That is making money the wrong way around in mine point of view.

You think what happend after that ?, Nothing totally nothing. He didnt even reply to me. Sorry not the kinda trust to buy indeed a new wheel from them. Dont get me wrong I am not out to diss Fanatec at all but when you promise something keep your end of the bargain and not change it all of a sudden and let me buy a new wheel.
I have said it many many times now. Fanatec has a good product and can be a knockout but Fanatec has some internal problems which defitnly needs to sorted.

And I dont want a new freebie wheel. I like the one I have. They just need to sort out drivers and that new firmware so i can use it again. I just wanna race. Nothing more. I hope Thomas can live up the things they planted on the website like firmware and drivers. Bcus I have the feeling they didnt took their beta tester completly serious. Or do we wait another 3 months before that is going to released.

Sincerly Niels

Last edited by niels1, Sun 25 May 2008, 09:01.

I have to agree with Teedot. Problems got worse and worse. I cant get a clean lape within LFS. It starts cutting in the corner big time. And yeah I am still on the beta wheel. Problems got that worse i havent driven anymore. I haven been on LFS for about 2 - 3 months.
I was 1 of the first in Hollad who got the wheel. I was really enjoying the wheel. I have even send photos to Fanatec that the sensors didnt lign up. I was interested in buying the wheel but since problems got worse and worse I decided not to.

Thomas I still think you have a good product on your hands but instead of giving this beta wheel you should have developt it more with the beta users you had selected. Kinda disappointed in that tbh. I have all drivers here and since the driver number went up the problem got worse. Better yet you posted a new driver but cant be used without a firmware update on the wheel. The post of a new firmware coming out was at the start of may but we nearly entering june.

You also asked me to write another review but you never replied me.
If you wanna continu with these products I think you should take your beta tester more seriously. Take time to answer their questions or listen to what they have to say. It feels like you didnt really listen and started right with to correct the faults.

Sincerly Niels

Last edited by niels1, Sat 24 May 2008, 21:01.

After some time off racing due to certain things it is time for me to resign from HR. Its a great bunch of guys together, that is when there together. Lack of interest and too much LFS, dumplings occured has put me off. I wish all remaining HR members a good time at HR. Very nice people. Goodby HR, thank you for the time I have spent there.

Good luck with the new team m8.

Alien, get yourself a nice P35 mobo. Some quality ram 4Gb, OCZ for instance. I would go for the 9800GTX or 9800GX2. 500 W branded power supply is more then enough m8. Get a good case to get them components in. This will give you the egde for a while.

yeap those scrwes are TORX. If my memory doesnt leave me here i think it was TORX 15. Not sure tho.

Anyway the self centering issue can i think be solved in LFS. I have the same issue in rFactor but when i turn it into negative FFB it works. Now only need to do a negative FFB ?.

Any of you know to set the FFB negative on the porsche wheel ?

I wil get that new wheel, I wanna feel and see the real difference.

I have tried the G25 friday and i cant see you really like the shifting off it. It doesnt have any resistance in it. However you cant mis shift with the gearing with a G25. I have to give you that. Like I said i struggled bigtime with the gears but its going fluid now.

The rumbling can be shut off by entering setup on LED display and go to Sho by using the pad on the bottom spoke :




vibration strength you want.

Hmmm a new commercial idea ??. Paying for skins ??. Well i wish you good luck but I doubt if you will succeed in this bussines.

Making skinss and sell them, you gotta be joking right ??. Sorry no respect at all.

Let say : How about we let you pay for entering a online server ??. How would you feel ??. LFS is a game and isnt about making money off it. I doubt if the devs apprecied this

The experience with your clutch has to do with the pot connected to the pedal. Propably loose or something. Gear shifter seems stiff and hard to shift but once used to it you will enjoy it. Clamping realy depends on the surface. Mine is rock solid on a timber desk. Doesnt move at all. And i didnt drill any hole. Its a experience you just cant enjoy in a couple off days. I had to get ysed to wheel for a week or 2. Even tho i have 1 with some issues, but surely Fanatec will resolve these.

Ohh nice and sade news. Good luck to FPR, Paddy and the new drivers.

Quote from Gabkicks :

yup lol there's genocides going on every day, but some loser tosses a puppy down a ravine and THAT gets people up in arms.

Sure poeple get shot in war. People can think and react on it and trying to devend themselfs. Puppy`s not.

This rant against americans isnt the way the go. Sure those guys were americans but for sure others will do something similar aswell. Keep in mind the are in war and it does propably weird thing sto the mind. But that isnt a freenote to go ahead with animal cruelty

Hmm laughing when a dog is blown up . Scaring the living day lights outta a little dog . Throwing a dog of a cliff .

This is really sick. If those vids are real, then these guys should be given the same treatment they did with those dogs.

ROFL LMAO , again a wast of tax . Bcus in the end we pay these guys and they arent cheap

I cleaned with a tissue and some pur based alcohol product. WD40 is fluid and doesnt clean that good as alcohol. When you do this use a product which evapored quickly. WD 40 doesnt do that and lays a layer on it. So something alcohol based will do. To undo the cover you have to use a bit, as you see in the picture still stuck there. Bcus that screw is hidden behind the wheel and there isnt a way to get the screwdriver in.

Quote from Jakg :

Can't get FFB to work and the wheel is off-centre - i'm using the latest drivers, can anyone recommend anything?

What is your OS jakg ?. Off centre can be resolved by cleaning black coding wheel. Chekc pic. You have to take the cover off.

Well Alien is always looking for bottle of whiskey, a sim bottle offcourse .

But in the end off the day I due believe he has a point. Lately we play a lot of rFactor amongst the HR team. I do like rFactor but as in physics it isnt as near as LFS is. On the other hand LFS doesnt have the real cars and tracks. Graphic speaking LFS has a long way to get better if you look at rFactor. Depends on the mod off course.

Generally speaking I belive LFS is the real sim for the time being, but rFactor does get close.

Best wishes DR, well done on skin deparment. Looks nice , keep iy simple gives the best skins.

Thats on there own website Jakg.

@skilss, Youre right indeed i meant a nice mettalic silver painted plastic cover. It isnt in the review. Sorry will fix that.

Just looks like a DFP. Improved proparly nothing new. Only a horn .
ROFL never expected that from logitech.

Sorry guys placed it in the wrong thread so nobody could download it. Also made it compatible for any word.

Oops never thought off that will change that

OKe mine first review is done. Its a big one so sit down and read it.

http://halfordsracing.com/community.V2/download.php?id=463

Last edited by niels1, Tue 19 Feb 2008, 19:47.