teamName: Cargame.nl
number: 19
car: FXR
drivers:
reason0809, Phil Krüger, Germany
-Joske-, Jos Meerten, Netherlands
Ghost.., Tõnis Lomp, Estonia


19 Cargame.nl;Phil Krüger, Jos Meerten, Tõnis Lomp

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

However, I am not sure if making a thread about how disgusted you are by your evening is really elegant. For example, would you appreciate if I made a thread about how much I've been wrecked on cargame.nl, just for the fun of having a few people jumping on the bash wagon?

i totally agree with you in that point, but on the other side i might say that there wasnt any chance to make a statement about the race because i neither found a thread on the ofc. forum nor is there any guestbook or somethink like that on FRL.com, just a small shoutbox where comments need to be acceptet by the admins from the website, and even there wont be much space left for discussion

i apologize for this thread, not a nice start for a league organizer here on the forums, why i edit out my OP as there might be more events to come and not every single event they'll do/they've made would be that crap (for me) as it was at the moment. and yes yann, i know hosting a league server nowadays is a pain in the arse, but it would've been great if some of the admins would've replied to our questions we asked a couple of times during and after the qualy

Quote from Tur8o :

so a replacement for boothy chicane?

maybe something like a sweeper where you have to brake but still fast without hitting either curb?

lets dont turn cornys topic into advertising for my layouts
if i'm finished it'll be shown in this section aswell

good one, i almost had the same idea for KY2R when you exit the last chicane to oval section, some left-right hander chicane
i know reading and imagine this doesnt make sence, but i already drove some laps through and it was great

but at the moment i'm working on a lyt for KY3, no boothy chicane,
some kind of a slower turn after the long left hander down to the oval section

i dont know, was searching in the whole forum for some kind of thread, but nothing exist
just was informed about the event on lfsw and this forum, when a message appeared next to the news

edit

Last edited by reason0809, Thu 3 Feb 2011, 19:06.

the MRT has a horn, OMG THIS IS EPIC !!!

dont have a clue whats going on anyways, just watching since 2 hours. i like the commentators, they are more into it and commentating more excited about the action than any other german tv commentator there is

btw, there is/was a Diaz driving, thought about Phil Diaz from ineX

my own new mix

http://www25.zippyshare.com/v/60566573/file.html

lol, nice attempt. but i dont need to be expert in building up my own cruise servers to say my opinions about other cruise servers. we got a plenty of them and there's no need for more, just saying, and with that opinion i'm luckily not alone, maybe just alone with having the balls to say so.

Quote :

People like things more realistic.

for sure, its very realistic having barriers in the middle of a racetrack

i'm cruising sometimes too on WKD, but thats the only one i like driving on because i meet friends there, and as already told, 1-2 (variety given here) is enough. if some of you would've read my OP correctly i told that we dont need another cruise server thats running the same system as all the other ones do and make an entry here, thinking they're reinventing the wheel

omg i'm sorry if you feel adressed

i wasnt speaking in someones name anyways, so i dont get the question

i'm okay with 2 or 3 cruise servers, having different systems running
but now its getting kinda boring when some people think they invent the wheel new by opening cruise servers after cruise servers day by day
c'mon people, WE DONT NEED THIS

because of working i used to stay awake 24 hours a couple of times last year,
but i guess it will be hard though driving all the 24 hours alone without loosing concentration sometime, especially in the night

Must not hit the walls

Quote from Tur8o :

Anyway nice report shame I let my team down was looking forward to good battle with tdrt who were right infront of me ah well I hope I don't flip on so4r if it's possible?

i believe nothings impossible in lfs

Quote from Swiss-Spirit :

Looking at the picture, it looks quite cool, but a bit overloaded maybe.

Showing the line-up of a team is interesting though.

true that. sometimes less is more

my suggestion:
- only show the current grid placement, track, weather condts. and commentator every now and then (like 5-10 minute intervall)
- position the "time left" on top of the screen
- when grid placement and other data was shown and hides again, only than show the current driver, team and lineup of a team as long as the grid placement and stuff will show up again

hehe yeah i noticed that you might have an engine damage because i was closing the gap way to fast with almost 1-2 seconds a lap and that is not quite usual if a cars runs normal

but great racing thou

yeah i meant 11th position overall, but okay,
better to mention 3rd in class Fox here

Just a quick update

24 Hour Race
On 8th January 2011 we've been driving our first 24 Hour Race by Blackbyte Bootcamps and finished 6th with the FXR and 11th with the FOX (just driven by dave & lomp all the 24 hours long).

The race itself was quite unspectactular for us, not many teams signed in and after some cancelled their application because of MoE only 21 started. Some DNF and after the server crashes 2 times and we had to change to another more stable server some left the race because it all has been a mess now. Anyways we wanted to finish as this was our first 24 hour event and may more will come, so we could get some experience in that.

In the night in was very hard to stay awake and keep concentrated racing 2 or more stints in a row, but Jos and me managed this quite well also as Dave and Lomp. Thanks to Dice, Litro and guestdriver Foks who helped a lot with their stints keeping the team fit.


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GTAL Round 4 (Aston Grand Touring Reverse)

We started 26th after 10 places grid penalty and finished 18th.
See full report here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=72254&page=3

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

In fact Smocking Team inherited of 3rd, as Deep Drive got penalised for that move, and fell back to 10th

thanks for clearing out i just changed that

New Dimension Racing Events // GTAL 2011 (Season 2) - Round 4

3 Hours of Aston Grand Touring Reverse (AS6R)

Foreword:

Hello and a warm welcome. We also wish you guys a happy new year, if we haven't seen you in a while. Currently we are reporting from the cold and windy Aston Grand Touring Reverse Circuit, which is situated near by Birmingham, in the middle east of England. Its the 4th round of the 2010/11 GTAL season and we are expecting a normal race today, since we had a spectacular race on Fern Bay a couple of weeks ago, with many cars flipping in the feared Green Chicane, broken suspension damage, cars on top of the roof, and about 15 safety cars. Now that we are here on a standard racetrack, with more widely gravel, asphalt or any other safety zones in the exit of the turns, we expect some nice 3 hours of pure racing, pushing and bumpdrafting.

Qualy:

The Qualifying was held on 9th and 14th January. The FXR used to be a bit slower here on this track, as we expected them to be way out of the top 10 results, but surprisingly the alien of GraVt Racing Gehammar showed that the FXR is still able to attack the XRR's and FZR's here. After both qualifying sessions he was on position 4, behind the maybe closest top 3 qualification result ever, leaded by Falkenhain from RAPTOR Racing, Riegler from CoRe Racing and Heijerman from Genuine Racing, all 3 driving the FZR within 1 thousandth of a second, 2:41:11 and 2:41:12. The fastest XRR at this point was Friskopps by Team Identity burning a 2:41.27 to the ground.

Cargame.nl didn't take part on the first session, as they were driving their first 24 hour race by Blackbyte Bootcamps on the same day, finsihing there on position 6. They wanted to sleep the rest of the week to jump back into the drivers seat fit enough. Because of the holidays during christmas and new years eve Cargame.nl wasn't practicing all day long as they did for Fern Bay, but they knew Aston Historic Reverse was a bit similiar to Aston Grand Touring Reverse, so they tried to focus on 24 hour race first and then they'll do all the fine adjustment later that week right after the event. On last race in Fern Bay after some guys were spinning in turn 14 and going, Cargame.nl driver P. Krüger couldnt avoid turning and was unlucky blocking with no purpose Gentles on Circuit driver M. Booth "Jabba" Boothy, leading to a 10 places grid penalty for this round 4. With not much expectations for the race and rather having a good hotlap setup for the qualy, P. Krüger drove a 2:43:2 and set his car on position 18, adding the 10 places grid penalty they started from 26th position, because other drivers in front set no time or got a penalty during qualy as well.

Raceday:

On Saturday 15th January the wind was still a very light breeze and many clouds above the sky were hanging down. This will effect the speed on the long passages after turn 3, or the backstraight after turn 14 and the cold temperatures at the moment will also keep the tyres a bit cooler. The cars moved out of the pits and some were testing and adjusting some last changes on the car to prepare for the race. P. Krüger was the starting driver for Cargame.nl and got a completely new setup from his teammate J. Meerten, which has been tested just a few times by him. So he got a new challenge here, going to see how long the tyres will hold this time, hopefully a complete stint or bit longer. The little testing and driving around the circuit also showed that Krüger got problems with the front brakes, locking a bit when braking hard into the slow turns of the circuit, especially after sector 2, turn 16 to 18. This will effect the tyres burning them to 120 degress and above and also causes loosing rubber a lot. But we never know, things can change during the race and maybe some safety car or any other action will play in their hands again as they had, maybe too much, luck in the last race, followed by some stupid manouver, flipping the car in the very last minutes of the race when they had a top 5 position for sure.

The start went on almost without any crashes, just some guys in the back going wide into turn 1, missing the right braking point and driving through the grass on the left exit of turn 2 and going. Cargame.nl managed to avoid collisions until that point P. Krüger was on place 25, with the superfast E-Teams Villa in his XRR closing the gap and passing right after the backstraight in sector 2. Krüger tries to close the door but fails and accidently hits the XRR of Villa on the right side of his car, forcing Krüger to the gravel on the left side before turn 16, loosing grip and almost touches the wall there. He lost some positions when rejoining the track and keeps on going. Some cars in front had been very slow on the track, giving Cargame.nl the chance to claim positions back again. After 15 minutes AMG driver R. Cullen hits the curbs way to hard in turn 2 and flips the car to the grass on the left side, landing right on top of the roof. This was surely leading to the first safety car situation in the race, just right after the field was sorted in its way and everybody had seen who's either got the right pace to keep fighting or defending for positions. The restart went well so far, but some guys in the midfield where having connection problems which caused the server to lag a bit. Close racing wasn't safe at this point because some cars where moving from the left to the right, appearing and disappearing all the time. At this point Runas from Deadline Racing went for position 16, battleing with Krüger 2-3 laps. The FXR was way slower on the fast parts of the track, but had the chance to close up again in the slow corners. Krüger had heavy problems locking the front with heavy breaking and understeering in the hairpin section. The tyres have been very thin at this point, also the safety car didnt really help to cool the tyres down and safe them for the rest of the stint. With more than 30 minutes to go for the rest of the stint Krüger was on position 21 and keeps fighting with those thin hot tyres. Massive crash between Krüger, Cerny of mpower and Dohnalík of Angel Power Racing ! When Cerny passes Krüger on the last hairpin they went down 3 wide into turn 1, Dohnalík giving Krüger a little hint from the side, he couldnt steer nowhere from that point, just was a passenger of his own car, when Cerny tries to find a better line into turn 1 at this point, he touched Krüger on the left, with no chance to avoid any of them. All 3 went into the gravel in turn 1. It was a normal racing incident, but most bad luck had Cerny, who completly distroyed his car with heavy suspension and chassies damage. He got 1 lap to go into the pits while Krüger and Dohnalík could go on with just some chassies damage. in the front. The first stint was almost over and as Krüger was going for the pit on position 17 he got front left tyre puncture in turn 18, luckily not much corners left to pit, refuel, change the tyres and repairing damage.

The second stint went on very good as Krüger was driving hotlap by hotlap, but still 2 seconds slower than the top 10 teams in front. But Krüger manages to save the tyres a bit more this time and was able to push the hell out of the car, with the aim to claim a top 15 position. After changeovers and everybody pitted Krüger was back on position 21. GraVt driver Björklund was leading the race in front of Schein and Harvey. 5 cars out of top 8 position where driving FXR now, which was very surprising, because usually the FXR is a bit slower here on this track. Schein went for Björklunds slipstream when they were going for the last hairpin, he was having more grip in the exit of the corner, closing up the gap and overtook him in turn 1, Björklund going wide there, giving Harvey a chance too to overtake, Björklund on position 3 now after we've seen a very great battle of them between turn 1 and 6. Krüger was overtaking Demec on the backstraight in turn 5 and 6, somehow found a good chance to get through here, and now is on position 17 after closing the gap to him now almost half a stint. But still with front locking problems he went for the hairpins and the tyres got even thiner after pushing a lot. He knew nothing will help here just saving tyres now and driving slower laptimes. So Krüger was driving 2:25's laptimes and braking early for the turns to keep the tyres alive somehow to the very last minutes of the stint. J. Meerten was ready for his stint because Krüger was telling them via radio to prepare for the worst, because he never knew when the tyres will puncture and they need to do a changeover. And right in that moment entering fast right turn 8 and slower turn 9 the front left tyre was gone, Krüger had no control of his car and drove right into the wall on the left here. Trying to drive fast but safely back to the pits as everything couldnt have been worse it went even more worse when the right front tyre also popped. Now its up to Krüger to drive the car back to the pits somehow and try keep avoiding any collision when leading cars behind him were closing up to lap him. In the corners he went way to fast there, try using the handbrake turning in the hairpins, but couldnt avoid steering into the grass. He manages to drive half a lap without any grip on the front tyres back to the pits and gives the car to his teammate Jos Meerten who needs to drive some fast laps now, trying to claim top 20 position again after they've lost many positions by that incident.

Jos Meerten didnt even had the chance to find a right racing pace into his stint because after just some minutes of driving the server kept on lagging and causing problems for some teams when battleing for positions, many of them were lagging as already told above. The server crashes and it was a right decision by the racing control to wave the red flag, so everybody was driving safely back to the start finish straight, leaving the server and restarting it. After 20 minutes of waiting and setting up the grid again the last hour of the race went on and Jos Meerten had the chance to change the tyre pressure a bit, giving the advantage to bring the car back home on a good position without any puncture again. At the restart Cargame.nl Racing Team was on position 21, Hagner of TDRT leading the field in front of Heijerman and Anttonen on position 3. As Hagner made a mistake in turn 2 going wide for the grass here, Heijerman got their slipstream on the backstraight and overtook him, going for the lead, with more than 40 minutes left of the race. Jos Meerten was driving half a second slower than Krüger from the beginning of his stint just to save the tyres and kept in mind better finishing somwhere in top 25 position now than having a puncture again and finishing at the very end of the field. Keeping that in mind Krüger was watching the Remote and Tracker telling his teammate try to keep pushing a bit because the cars in front arent quicker though. With 18 minutes to go Sonicrealms Racing driver Törmälä jumped upside down in turn 2 aswell, landing on the right innerside of the corner, no matter how he managed that, but safety car went out for the second time this race, in comparison to round 3 on Fern Bay luckily 13 times less here. Safety car was out for 5 minutes and the rest of the race will be great to see who'll take or keep the lead, with only 10 minutes left, might be able to drive 3 or 4 laps here but not that much opportunity to overtake or defend his position. Heijerman in his FZR still leading behind the safety car now, followed by Hagner and Lombardi in both their FXR's. On the restart Heijerman had a good start after the hairpin giving Hagner no chance to reach his slipstream, but with Heijermans stone cold tyres he was way slower in the corners, Hagner had the chance to reach his back in exit of turn 3 and tries overtaking here but Heijerman keeps his lead so far right down the backstraight when Hagner was going to overtake Heijerman. Right in that moment Lombardi did an ambitious manouver, touches Hagners car on the left rear bumper spinning and pushing him to the wall, once again ruined someones race as he did a couple of times in the earlier rounds and other league events too. With 2 more laps to go Hagner felt back to position 13, fastest FXR so far driven by Gehammar was position 9 and Meerten managed to keep the tyres alive very good, having the car on position 18 at least a good placement after all the mess with the tyres and crashes in the first stint, we may just claimed 8 positions, but still had a good race here though with close racing, good overtaking actions and quite a good pace after not practicing much for this round. Genuine Racing takes the victory in front of CoRe Racing and Smoking Team on position 3 who started from position 07th. In the inlap TDRT's driver Hagner was revenge wrecking Lombardi, may he was in anger about that harsh move he did battleing for top 3, but still was no need to do this at this point, leading into a penalty and disqualification in round 4.

Summary:

After Cargame.nl Racing Team didnt practice much for this round they feel quite satisfied with this result as they claimed 8 positions by having great overtakings on the track, also tried to keep defending their position but some faster cars coming from behind they couldnt avoid to get overtaken. We've just seen 2 safety cars, it was a complete mirror to round 3 with 15 safety cars, but still need to keep in mind that this is an amateur league, we've seen great racing here with some good drivers but also some guys never did endurance races so far and may cause some incidents. And no matter if this is an amateur league or masters of endurance with more experienced drivers and aliens driving faster laps as possible, there'll always be moments leading to crashes, pushing someone to the gravel or flipping the car upside down in crappy chicanes. For the next round we expect more incidents, because we are driving 3 hours of South City Long Reversed, its a tyre killer, especially for the front left tyre, and the FXR got an opportunity and power to show their best against the usually faster XRR and FZR. The walls will be kissed there a couple of times and maybe some will fly around the track when battleing too hard here. But we'll see and keep focusing for the next round which will be on 19th february 2011.

Thanks to the guys doing a great job with the stream again, it was very entertaining and some overtakings wouldnt have been so exciting without your commentating. Also thank you for reading, i'm still crap at this shit, but keep enjoying typing this, looking the replays or the stream while doing so and keep searching for some words in the dictionary when having problems with the spelling or finding the right words. Some may think i can use google translate, but if you write down the text in german and try to translate it in english with google translate you'll probably just read some japanese shit because it all turns out into crappy english with no grammar or right spelling at all.

(c) P. Krüger (M. Romboy / Cargame.nl)

Last edited by reason0809, Wed 19 Jan 2011, 18:11.

just had the chance to tune in 1 hour, but was quite amusing and entertaining
great job there

yes i have to say that the server was bit laggy this time
sometimes close racing was way too dangerous because you never knew when a car in front of you was lagging and where he was going then

anyways, weird race somehow. further review these days