Where does this guy live? I'll do it.

Quote from jibber :

Who's joking?

No one is... He's trying to laugh and forget.

Quote from GrIp DrIvEr :

WHAT!!!! I was kidding!!!!! man someone is a retard!!!!! What is your problem!!!!!! You guys don't understand some Americans... it's called SARCASM. Check it out...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

Also, why would I give $1000 away?

Oops? As an american myself... I don't go around saying bull like that... For exact reasons. You've learned your lesson... Think about racing in real life and you bet your car accidently by saying "pfft, i'd give you my car if you could win" If he has witnesses... he could probably win.


Who goes around saying

"pfft, i'd give you my car if you could win", nobody that isn't gambling that I know of.

You said you'd give it to him, well to anyone... But anyone who could win I guess.

I vote YES.

A. Because you made the gamble (Dumb, for betting for no gain... I would've atleast made sure I made some money)

B. You used the old "American" excuse.

Quote from amp88 :

Meh. Still not a patch on Lorena Bobbit.

The first time I heard that story, I laughed... I thought it was a joke... But jeez it turned out it was true.

Quote from S3ANPukekoh3 :

Very off topic I know, but... Is she?? He... it??? Acctually a man in drag?
look at the pictures, it wears so much make up, etc etc.... and is that a wig???
I pretty sure in one of the pictures you can see the male, lower side... Genitals (the bubble dress one)...

Uhm dude... You can clearly see that even if that was... She's a female. (Bubble picture)

Do you even know where to look?

Quote from Becky Rose :

The only time I was scared was a drive by when a Mac-10 was emptied at me because it was just so random and without warning, and those things just keep on going buddabuddabudda for ages, it's not like a pistol where there's a few shots and it's all over, the shooting keeps on coming with a submachine gun and that gives enough time for the fear and adrenaline to get really quite high. It's the only time I can think of when I didn't confront my assailant, I just got the hell out of dodge.

Oddly it never really sank in and once away from it I just carried on as normal, I said to my brother who I was on the way to visit at the time "I just got shot at by a Mac 10", he didn't believe me because I was just so calm about it. It was only in the light of day when my car had some dents (I assume from ricochet as a direct hit would have penetrated) that it really sank in, and by then it was too late to be bothered by the whole thing so I just shrugged it off, the car wasnt great anyway, I was still alive, so it was all a bit 'whatever' really.

Wow....

Quote from sil3ntwar :

Fix Or Replace Daily

Find On Road Dead

Not sure if it was already posted.. Not going to read through every post.

Quote from JasonJ :

But if he leaves, who will complain about the complainers? We also need someone to complain about the complainer's complainers. Lucky you're on the case Runeman

This thread is for the complainers, no need for them to come complain about them.


And thank you Capirossi.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Because they've been told what they need to know countless times before....

"When will the VWS be released?"

"WHEN IT'S ****ING FINISHED"


Like seriously, why is this thread even open.

Sorry I sound like an old git but this thread bores me. I unsubscribe!

Like seriously, why are you still posting here? If this thread "bores" you, then get on with it and leave. This is the thread that is made for the complainers. You don't have to read it, It's called a "CHOICE". It's magic!!! You actually get to make a decision. It's not mixed in with all of the other posts.


And I missed the show.

Quote from Sponge :

And then coming to this forum to see all those ungrateful moaners bitching about your hard work for over 1100 posts..

I have great respect for the devs.. If I were one, I would've quit months ago..

Some people just want to know? How is that moaning?

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

It's just another impatient person who thinks they know it all..

Impatient? *Takes deep breath*


That's the biggest understatement I HAVE ever heard.


Anyways, it's coming... No one knows when but when it comes it'll be here and ready. Early 2009 isn't over yet... But if Scawen gives a date... well you saw what happened last time. It's to my surprise that this thread has reached 1100 posts 95% of them "WHERE THE SCIROCCO", "LFS IS DEAD" "ARE THE DEVS EVEN ALIVE" "WHEN THE SCIROCCO COME"... And some other talk.


Mmm, they need to remove "Scawen" from the spell checker.

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Quote from JasonJ :

[speculation]
hmm, TV show goes public with new Scirocco and info, the day after A Friday.
[/speculation]
/me stirs pot

I've got a bet going on CLC.

I'm guessing friday it'll come out. I mean after seeing that... It looks like it must be close. Unless they're still testing it.

To the guy above me, that is strong sexual content ( Your Avatar ), i'll be reporting it very soon. Or AMB


By the looks of that, it'll be here this friday most likely

It'll be used for awhile.

It's coming soon. It shouldn't be long now, i'm guessing it's getting close... i'm almost thinking now it'd be nice for a status report... Even though quite some time back I said it was rude...

I mean... let me count the time.

It's been

3 months and 12 days

105 Days.

15 Weeks

Since the delay, it's gotta be getting close, Maybe within a few weeks.

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Could God create a stone so heavy he can't pick it up?

Man has made things so heavy he couldn't pick up... Look at a building for example... A stone a man can pickup but when many of them are pieced together... he cannot.

I don't think we understand God fully.

April fools.

... Obama is trying to tax ammo and make it go up... so gotta stock up.

I locked my friend out of his house, and we he got in... I pretended to rob him.


Although doesn't sound funny. 0.o It was at the time.

To be honest... Graffiti is poor home training. I've had people do it to my house... I'm not very happy about it.

Graffiti is just a way of saying "I'm a punk with no life.".

It's trash, it trashes everything. Most of the time it's gang signs.

It's the only game I play besides FSX... I guess i'd do something else in real life.... Even though I do enough of that.

Quote from dontpannic :

I am wondering though, throughout all of this I feel that the "wall of silence" now given by the developers is a little harrowing. What happened to the days of constant status updates?

We were told, as a community, on the 11th December 2008 that the latest update was around a week or so away (give or take errors in estimation), however it has now been almost 3 and a half months since the news broke that the patch was postponed and all we've heard since is that the devs are working on it.

Don't take this as a rant. I've been totally supportive of the development pace and totally appreciative of the fact that the devs have lives too - however I think the community would appreciate at least a status report that explains where we're at - obviously not giving away the features that may or may not be included in Patch 0.6A. I think we'd like to know what faults were found that made a weeks worth of development work turn into 3 and a half months. I've heard that there were major bugs with the new software - how about holding a closed beta with certain racers? i.e only giving certain people the latest patch file and the ability to unlock it?

Obviously having said the above, I'm in no rush for the patch. I'm still loving BL1 XFG races at the moment, fiddling around with various add-ons.

I hope this makes sense - its just my thoughts put down in black and white.

Nick

Nothing is owed to us, they either show us or not show us. If it's going to be released for beta testing, everyone needs to test it. Using S14's example, If A and B get to play with it and have all of the bugs worked out for them. Then C and D go ahead and play with it and it's buggy, they'll throw a fit, talk about quitting and make useless threads.

Yes it has been 3 and a half months, and it would be nice for maybe a status and maybe how long it would take, but the second they give a status report, first persons words "Alright it's almost done yay!", then your average impatient person, one or two weeks later after the status report "Dude that's not much to do, how can it take one or two weeks? Man can't the developers realize it's been so long." Then that first person changes his opinion and says the exact same thing.

We don't know how long it takes, who are we to judge? Be happy that it's even being developed. It's coming and will be here soon. Many other people say it "ruins their game".

But when it comes out and it's not what everyone expected.... All of the complainers will raise hell. Not having the scirocco shouldn't change the game.

I'm sorry but your view and opinion isn't the correct way to look at it, and you're just setting yourself up for misery and others having to listen to it.

Well in my car or LFS, I pretty much hold it where ever it's best... I drive a manual in both my car and LFS. The wheel isn't always in the same position. I usually am counter steering.

They should've called this thread "WE WANT SCIROCCO!!#@#@#@$@%".

Quote from PlusP :

I don't post much but I couldn't let this one go without a comment. I have to agree with you on so many levels it's unreal, Jay. I'm frequently embarrassed by the posts that many, not all, but many Americans make in these forums. I don't know if it is a cultural difference or what but it gives the impression (to the rest of the world) that so many of us want everything now, now, now...and to Hell with putting forth any effort. That's certainly not always the case, but it constantly rears its ugly head around here and in many other forums involving more complex sims.

I'm a pretty passive guy. I've been in law enforcement for over 9 years and and I spend most of my day putting up with other people's crap. When I get home (and the wife's tucked in) I "play" hardcore flight and racing sims to unwind...and trust me, after dealing with the people I have to deal with on a daily basis, I need to unwind. I recently got into a heated argument with a guy that I've played Rock Band online with off and on for over a year now. This guy, a fellow American I might add, is in his 30's, has kids, and still lives with his mom. (Way to set an example for his kids, not to mention a worrying and increasingly common trend amongst many Americans these days.) The argument started over his claim that Gran Turismo is the greatest driving simulator ever made. Since he has a vastly superior computer to the one I have, I recommended some common PC racing sims. Real sims. I explained the general differences between console and PC racing titles and the benefits sims like LFS offer like more realistic physics, smooth online play, extremely detailed stats, TrackIr support, a very supportive and more mature community, a higher degree of mature racers, etc. I convinced him to try LFS and all he could talk about were the "sorry graphics" and the "crap physics". I replied, "You've got to be kidding me? Right?" His reply, "Need For Speed Pro Street has better physics...and LFS doesn't feel right with my controller." ...silence... "How's your wheel set up?" Reply: "Noobs use wheels. I can beat anyone with a controller. I own."

The result: Instant deletion from friends list / my migration back to PC sims.

The shocking realization: This guy represents the average game consumer and the reason that the sim genre's heyday is going the way of the do-do bird.

I just don't get it. Where do these people come from and since when were graphics the end-all be-all and continous updates demanded more than just expected? What happened to the old addage, "You get out of it what you put into it"? Frankly, I'm often disgusted that so many people (especially my fellow Americans) are missing the point of what a simulation is and why flash and glitz is so far down on the totem pole of importance. It also pains me that they whine so much over the progress of development and then compare it to newer titles of lesser quality and substance. We all paid the devs for LFS as-is. It's been a wonderful title and it's only gotten better. It hasn't cost us a penny more than we originally paid for the license. In my opinion, we need to step back and admit that we've received a heck of a lot more than we paid for and LFS is still truckin' right along. Besides GPL, RBR, and NR2003, most surving racing titles older than LFS, with communities of any respectable size, are few and far between.

I've been dropping in and out of here since I got LFS in 2007. I keep up on the forums but I stay pretty quiet. I don't race online much but I've logged an enormous amount offline laps. For longevity and bang for your buck LFS just can't be beat. Console racers as well as a good number of PC sims fade within a year or two, if not sooner. I've been flying Falcon 4.0 and Allied Force since 1999-2000. I've put weeks of time into IL2. By today's standards, the graphics in those sims absolutley suck. But that doesn't make them bad sim. Like LFS, they're great sims because they do so many things right. It's a crying shame that the hardcore PC flight sim community is dying and it’s not because of the inability of the devs to produce quality titles. It's because of the average consumer's short attention span and lack of patience. It’s also a refusal to actually learn and develop skills to be successful.

Many of my fellow Americans are falling into this category of "pick up and play" and I’ve yet to understand it. Not many people are willing to put forth the effort to understand a sim like Falcon. Having to actually study its 716 page manual that merely scratches the surface of what it has to offer is asking too much for the average Joe. Likewise, take a look at how many people in LFS actually take the time to study the basics of racing or learn how to set up their own car to get the best out of the sim. Logging 291 miles and worrying about how a car's bottom end looks is missing the point of what a sim is. I'm not knocking you jrs_4500. I'm just making a point. Go to almost any dedicated PC sim community and you'll find so of the most helpful people you could ever hope for. Just understand the difference between arcade and sim.

Oh, and if you want to see if a game is aging, check here: http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/

Thousands of people are still supporting many sims developed in the 1990's and they are still going strong. Compared to it's competition, LFS is a testament to the longevity of a racing sim because of it's quality, continued support by the devs, and the great community. NFS-HP2 and the like is never gonna have legs like that.

As my friends across the pond say,
Cheers

2 Pages back - Yes I know.

The only NFS I liked was Porsche unleashed... It was new... after awhile I wondered what the next NFS would be like... Well I guess it was okay, then came underground - It got worse! Then came underground 2... It was a little bit different... Then came most wanted, it was still okay. Then carbon looked awesome, I just about picked up a copy, but I downloaded the demo, and it was... wow... absolutely horrible.

Yeah some people want graphics more than anything... Look at crysis... It's ridiculous, I thought it was unreal. Come to think of it, if I wanted a game like that i'd play unreal tournament.