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stan.distortion
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Quote :I have to stop you there. I don't know what you call wasting?

Vista is a good example.
Quote :Windows has security built in from its foundations since the start.

roflmao
Quote :And to top it, how is an OS relevant to the lifespan of your hardware?

Wintel, circa windows 3.1 > windows vista.
stan.distortion
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Quote :It's like if you bought a super cool car and you'd need a tow truck every time you want to go with it to the store

ie. you bought a TVR
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Quote from Bose321 :What's that for nonsense?....

OMG, your really blind to the possibility that macs are anything but a complete rip off aren't you?

I'll give you a windows world example of Matrixi's post, my crappy old P2 300mhz toughbook. It used nothing cutting edge when it was made, just tried and trusted components with proven reliability and good performance in a balanced package. When put head to head against a mid priced laptop (core duo) running vista it gave much better performance for real world tasks, browsing, word processing, spreadsheets even for video and music playback it was more responsive than the vista laptop. These things had an extortionate $3000 pricetag when new but considering its still in daily use 15 years later the price is almost justifiable.

Mac's rule in the video, photo editing and CAD world for much the same reason, many motorola macs are still in daily use because the package as a whole (hardware and software) is good quality and has a long lifespan. Its horses for courses, Mac servers get good performance from their hardware as do mac workstations along with the best screens I have ever seen, mac laptops go well with latemochachino's and BS, etc etc.

Now microsoft have finally understood the operating system is not supposed to waste system resources and should manage memory and running tasks effectively and also have security built in from the foundations there is a chance windows PC users can enjoy the same kind of lifespan from their hardware that mac users have become accustomed to.

BTW, I use neither but have a respect for quality in both hardware and software.
stan.distortion
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A lot of what your trying to do depends on the driver, if your device uses the standard force feedback signals defined in the usb hid specifications it will just work(tm) with the tests your using. Unfortunately the hid specs also allow for custom signals which the manufacturer can incorporate into their own driver, this really screws things up for open source drivers, its possible ff-utils is unable to communicate with your device due to this.

If you can get it working then a spring effect would suit your purposes better than a constant force effect (if your device supports it). Some maybe useful links:
This document is the USB physical interface spec, page 8 has some info on force types.
If you have windows then usblyzer is a simple option to see exactly what kind of communications your device uses, some folks have issues with the required driver though.
If not you will need to unbind the linux driver from your device (details here) then use lsusb -vvv to view details for the device.
stan.distortion
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Quote :no because if you can afford a mac you can afford a pc instead.

Umm... macs are personal computers, although it doesn't break your argument and with a pole for "Windows For Mac?" I'm just nit picking
stan.distortion
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+1, there are a lot of macs in use. However LFS works petfectly with wine on linux here so big thumbs up for that, next best thing to native multiplatform support.
stan.distortion
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Most real gearboxes use ball and spring detent, could be tricky for diy though as the tolerences are close. ACCAkut's U shaped spring retainer is the most elegant method without using engineered components I have seen so far. Another option maybe worth considering for some is to use the selector mechanism of a rwd gearbox, it can usually be removed in one piece with H pattern, detent and reverse blocking linkage all contained, not much good for 6 speeds + reverse though and useless for 7.

For the electronics, gutting a joypad is the simplest. If you want something tailored to your needs I would recommend some of the arduino human interface device projects with plenty of room to add a handbrake, balance valve etc later. There are a lot of other microcontroller based systems of varying complexity but the arduino imho seems to offer the best options in terms of cost, expandability and plug in and go functionality.

EDIT Just had a look what the DIY stores are selling that could be used as detentes, some nice options here.
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stan.distortion
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Group B rally cars and hillclimb cars and tracks.
stan.distortion
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1st post, hi to all.
Thx for all the info here, only found lfs after searching for info on c.a.r.s.
Quote :Improve the lift off over steer

Quote from this post for build 79 changelog. Kind of worries me, lift off oversteer should be part of the physics and tyre models, not an item on its own. Looks damned amazing and some of the recent builds on youtube seem to have realistic handling, look forward to seeing it.

Cheers.
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