Sorry FlintFredstone, I think that is way to complicated. It needs to be less complicated, like my way

If we have the minimap, then it needs to be easy to use, but useful, and as I have said, why do you need to know where the leader is? You don't, if the leaders are lapping you, you get a blue flag - it doesn't matter if it is first, second or third, you let them past. The only racers you NEED to know about are those directly infront of you and directly behind you (in terms of race position not track position). Hence the different colour for these only!

However, I agree that the minimap is very arcade like, and we need something a bit more realistic. I am not sure what, but maybe adding functionality to the minimap is a step in the wrong direction!

Tim

Thanks for that link, I will check it out when I get chance.

I tested the message thing last night using rcm messages. At the moment I have a do..loop waiting for five seconds before it clears the message but I did think about using a timer to clear it instead, I just haven't worked out the details of this yet. So far so good though.

Thanks
Tim

Thanks,

I will no doubt need your help!

The project I am starting is specifically a Hotlap tracking system, whereby it will watch you do hotlaps and keep a database of your split times and lap times and save them in a database. Then I will be able to see my session (in a seperate application btw not in LFS itself!) times and the differences between splits etc.

I also would like it to show on screen in LFS the difference of your current split with your best split time, but the only way I can think of doing this at the moment is through a message (top left of the screen) which could be difficult to see. Another way is using the /rcm command to show a race control message, but I have not tested this yet.

Is there any other (easy) way to show it on screen? I am not interested in using a DirectX proxy to do it btw - its too complicated (I think) and I like to understand all the code I write! For this reason I am glad your NewInSim stuff is quite simple, although I have seen some scary stuff at the bottom of the okSocket code!!!

Anyway, thanks in advance.

Tim

I have had chance to use this now and ... WOW ... so much easier - well done RayOK! I love it.

At the same time you have taught me something about VB and there isn't *too* many things that make me wonder what the hell is going on!

I really can not thank you enough, I can now start doing what I wanted to do.



Tim

Quote from Stuff :

I've been working on a new project and have redone the way my InSim code works. This example uses a class to handle everything then will just raise events to the other forms/classes/etc that want them. Should be much easier.. you see?

Thanks RayOK, that looks really neat! I have just got used to the other way you did it, but I think I will stop that and start using this method. Thanks again!! I just wish I understood it all!

Its OK I found my error!

For those of you who care, the code that works is as follows:


Basically the bytSec etc parts are single bytes, the byt2str() function needs an array of bytes to work.

Tim

Quote from Stuff :

If its VB6 example you need, I posted one here. I have updated the okSocket control since that post so if you use it, there is an updated okSocket in the outgauge example I posted not too long ago, here. Hope it helps

Hi,

I am trying to use your InSim vba example, but I am struggling with something.

I have turned on Race Tracking by doing the following:


Then in the ParseMessage sub I have added the following case


Which I think is right, but for some reason I get an error when I click the connect button. See the attached screenshot for the error message. I dont understand it because it seems to be saying that something else is expected but the .bytMin IS correct.

Please tell me I am doing something wrong!!

Thanks in advance
Tim

Firstly, thanks for these updates - they are fantastic! Especially the new track selection screen - love it and love how it came with help from the community!

Now, as you have made changes to the minimap, I thought I would add my two pence! I suggested some time ago, that the biggest addition to the mini map would be the colour of the racer directly in front of you and the person directly behind you in position, be coloured slightly differently.

For example, I am in a race with 6 others and I am 3rd. The colours on the minimap would be:

Place Colour
1st Yellow - as they are now
2nd Light yellow
3rd Green - as it is now
4th Light orange
5th Orange - as it is now
6th Orange - as it is now

You only really need to know who these people are because they are the people fighting with you for the next position.

I am sure it should be fairly easy to do (should you want to ) and compatible.

Thanks and keep up the good work (Scawen and Community alike!!! )

Tim

EDIT: oh yes, nearly forgot, the server list sorting is most excellent!

Last edited by t1ger, Sun 30 Jul 2006, 08:02.

Hi Ant,

I qualify on point 1 and 3 (I just checked and I have done 5539 miles online!) and of course I like to have fun - as you know from our brief but highly enjoyable encounters!

Unfortunately, I can only represent NA from afar (ie from the UK), however, as that is where your servers are coupled with the fact that I used to work with somebody that has now moved to Canada..... could I perhaps get in.... maybe .... please!

Tim

Hi Solar,

When I first stumbled across you online (which I think was when I started with the OLFSL) I did notice your screen name and realised what it meant. I did not, however, realise the significance that this plays in your life. You clearly have reasearched and understand the things you are saying. I now feel a bit stupid as I am clearly nowhere near you on these counts. I appreciate that my ideas and thoughts on this are not based on anything other than that I hear from others and on the news and so can not be taken as anything like scientific. I don't normally join in on conversations like this, because I don't fully know what I am talking about. The main point I was making (which is entirely my own) is this:

Whatever we (the human race) do, it will have consequences. I don't know what these consequences are.

I personally do not like to give my opinion on anything unless I know the whole story, ie both sides, and understand them. This debate has too many unknown factors because of the above statement. I would love to make the planet last longer - but I do not (and will never) know for sure which option is the best, therefore I go along with the majority most of the time.

I appreciate your responce and find it very interesting. Some questions though:

1. Does the "electrolyse seawater" process comsume water?
2. If it does, is water not a finite resource to us, and if we use it all (as you say) we are dead anyway?
3. What are the catastrophic emmisions from house/building heating? How come I have not heard about this?
EDIT: sorry - just seen the answer to (3) from FienDi! Houses in the UK are generally not AirConditioned so we probably don't have this problem.

Good luck and speak to you soon.

Tim

ps at the moment there is a good chance I will see you in Event 6 as I am only a few places in front of you!

Last edited by t1ger, Sat 15 Jul 2006, 22:27.

Quote from russraine :

I can see what you mean about if people didn't buy the hybrids the technology wouldn't evolve, but they're just too expensive for mass market.

The oil companies do not want us to have "other" fuelled cars at the mass market yet anyway. Everytime a car is invented which will run on something else, the buy the idea out and then sit on it until such time as we have used all the fossil fuel they have!

Until then (which is most likely going to be too late for the planet) we are mostly stuck with what we have. I would love us all to move to a greener more friendly fuel, but it will not happen so quickly. I drive a 1.5 litre diesel (company car) - I don't think I had a choice of a greener car, but I will check next time for sure.

Plus, I bet if we did all move to another source of fuel (whichever one) - we would soon find other side effects that would mean that it still wasn't the perfect fuel. You can never get something for nothing in nature - every action has an equal and opposite reaction - if you take something to power something else - something will be gained (ie the car moving forward) and something will be lost (ie the waste). The waste might not be as immediately obvious as it is at the moment, but I would bet my life on something being found somewhere that was caused by the new fuel.

This is all just what I think on the subject.

Tim

Quote from Bawbag :

Victor, when you get a chance, can you restart the scripe please, it's kinda broke atm.

It's just recycling through the name of people who were in the server, like Misko, Prophet, Noghost, Tonix and stuff like that, never comes to letting people in who are in the server.

There are currently four of us on the server, but only 2 (actually about 4 people but 2 have left the server now) are being invited in a loop. Does the script need restarting again or something?

I and another would like to have a go if we can, please.

Thanks
Tim

Last edited by t1ger, Thu 13 Jul 2006, 21:44.

Quote from Clownpaint :

1 Word, hassle. I would not bring my PC down to an event.

I personally think this started as karting and should stay that way, if you want to organize LFS hopscotch competitions or pie eating contests it should be a seperate event, not replacing this one.

The hassle is a fair point! However, a pie eating contest is not keeping with the racing theme

Quote from ajp71 :

This idea doesn't really interest me as we race online so much anyway we may as well just go down the pub and forget about the hassle of bringing our own PCs to do what we do from the comfort of our living rooms.

Another good point and well made!

Quote from ajp71 :

Although this idea could possibly work if the devs came along with a new patch or treat (or S3) for us to have the first try of

This would be the ultimate event - this would make people want to come and override the hassle factor! I guess this could not turn into an annual event in this case, more of a "S2 Final Release" day!

Hmmmm... things to ponder... thanks for your replies guys.

Tim

Quote from Decibel :

What are peoples opinions of changing the type of event ?

Personally, this is first and foremost an LFS event, therefore it's safe to assume that most, if not all of those that would attend will be avid drivers / racers / motorsport fans.

I understand that the intention of the event is to bring LFSers together socially, but if you remove the 'common ground' of racing I fear there will be fewer wanting to attend.

I'm not saying this has to be a karting event, but something motorsport related. Although, TBH, any other corporate motorsport event is probably prohibitively expensive, so it'll end up being karting anyway.

Perhaps it's time for a poll on which types of events people would prefer ?

/Discuss

I agree that it needs to stay on a racing theme, but how about we hire a big hall and have a "lan party" style meet running LFS. We can either bring our own setups (ie PC and wheel) or have some nice people lend us some (I have known Alienware (now owned by Dell!) do this for other lan party's). I don't know if this will appeal to the likes of Alienware, but I think this sort of event would appeal to more people. I think it would appeal to "other halves" and our kids more too as we as racers would be more accessible as we are not out on a track trapped in our highly concentrated world! The other thing I would do is have a competition on the loan PCs (to make it fair) with knockout races and an overall winner, maybe even classes of race for FOX or TBO etc... I am thinking as I write this...

+1 to have a poll for the Event!

Tim

Quote from tristancliffe :

Everyone ready? :banana:

I have been nervous for a few days now - I just want to get in that Kart NOW!. I have watched the video's and read the notes that Alan posted links too, so I hope I can try and put them into practice!

Tim

Quote from Decibel :

Ummm, don't think i'll have a problem there. My padding is built in and I just can't seem to remove it

ROFL

I can relate to that! I feel better now.

Tim

I am beginning to think that I may get hurt! Something bad always seems to happen to me when I am not with people I know, and your talk of rib protectors and proper suiting and clothing is making me think....

It is also getting me excited, which seems now to have overtaken the nerves! I haven't raced a kart for a few years (probably about 3 years - I think) but I do have my own suit and helmet from the days when we did and Compaq (pre HP "merger") sponsored us.

My other half is not coming, so I have room in the car if anybody is on the M1 corridor between Huddersfield and Nottingham. Just be aware that I am coming back up after the event and not staying over.

See you all there!!!

Tim

Current weather report for NN11 5NH is looking good. 24 degrees and partly cloudy. I did check at the end of last week and it showed "showers" so it could still change before the day... but here's hoping!

See following link for details:
http://uk.weather.com/weather/ ... nn11&code=5nh&y=9

Not long to go now, so I'm starting to get nervous!

Tim

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Just enable max quality(AA+AF) when you take screenshots and put it back to setting which give you most performance when you are playing

Fair point, I can just never be bothered changing it!

Tim

Quote from xapexcivicx :

No no no. He forgot to apply ANY AA

Ouchhhhhh
But yeah, nice picture.

Its not that I forgot, I chose not to!

Anyway, just for you, here it is with 4x AA and 4x AF. As it happens, I do think it looks a lot better, and I will probably not bother to turn it off again and so will leave it on! (unless it affects my performance too much - I only have a nVidia 5700 Ultra)

Enjoy!
Tim

You can download it here: http://silk.lfsnal.org/RaceManager.html

Unfortunately, I know nothing about it but I think all you need to know is on that site and in these forums. And if it is not there, just ask in the forum and somebody will help

Tim

Is the CyberSeat motion simulator thing going to make an appearance this year? I know it went last year, and I appreciate that it was an indoor event, but there might be an indoor area this year that we could use.

Has it been thought of or checked or is it just not coming?

Anybody know?

Tim

Quote from Xaid0n :

heh nice, are you actually touching the ground there? lol because it doesn't look like it ;P

I am not touching the floor at all, all four wheels are in the air. However, I do actually make the corner as I didn't want to take the screenshot from a lap where I am not clean. Doing so just made the screenshot feel "invalid" (call me strange illepall ). This is from my current fastest hotlap of Aston Historic.

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Nice picture...but you forgot to aplly some AA.

I do not run with AA on as a rule, I actually prefer the jagged clean lines that keeping it off provides. When it is anti-aliased I feel it looses the clarity. However, I could be wrong now, as this mindset started a long time ago for me. I will turn AA on and take another shot to compare - if it is loads better, I will post it!

Thanks for your comments guys - glad you like it.

Tim

Quote from dUmAsS :

no devs?

Didn't you mean:

?sved on!?!

Seriously, no devs, Victor has informed Tristan that they are not going to make it this year. Which is sad

But please please please do not let this put anybody off coming - it will still be a great event!

Tim

Here is a shot of probably the most "photgraphed" part of Aston

Enjoy!
Tim