Quote from speedykev :

well it looks like they have the pedals right, no tennis balls this time.

Wow thanks. Is it from your own G25 ?

Quote from Tweaker :

Well hrmm the price is a bit strange to say the least, for a product just coming out on the market.

They say it has 14 buttons too, there are way more than that if you aren't counting the paddles (+2) and shifter (+7) (23). Doesn't have "Rubber side grips", it is leather. They clearly don't have the product (yes it says Not In Stock) or any useful information about it, so all they can do is slap a cheap price on there and try to get interest in sales once they are in stock.

The price is not so strange since you can find the wheel around 200€ ( 135£ ) in Germany.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11557

There's already a thread for the new G25.

Quote from kaynd :

Here is a review of Logitech G25 racing wheel.

http://www.hardware.info/en-US ... G25_racing_wheel__Review/

It’s good to see the details and there is a video showing a guy driving with it…

Disappointingly, as it is shown on the video, he is reviewing an 900degree wheel in 200 mode OMG useless reviewer!!!illepall

We cant blame him since its the only video which is worthy.

Mixing bikes and cars would definately create a big mess IMO.

A real kart should be fun.

Just return it to Logitech. Dont forget that you have 2 years warranty and Logitech's RMA service is pretty good. I assume that they will replace your formal DFP by a new one.

Dont you think that the pedals are too close for the heeltoe ?

Quote from Rtsbasic :

Shame he doesn't. Still a good vid though, the shifter sounds louder than what I'm used to, but you can't hear the wheel much.

Anyone know how long the Logitech warranty is on these? They supported the DFP well with 2 years, hopefully they'll be doing the same for this. Espically as they don't normally sell spares like springs/pots.

2 years warranty

Quote from deggis :

http://www.hardware.info/video ... tech-g25-720p.wmv.torrent :faint2:

This is just great. thanks dude.

Quote from juggle :

Ok had a bit of fun with g25 so hers my thoughts so far..... bloody marvelous

You have to be aware that I don’t get the chance to race too much these days so im a bit rusty driving. My former wheel was the DFP.

Construction: The whole package oozes quality

Wheel: Rock solid mounting; zero play in the wheel and the dead spot from the DFP has gone. Very quiet with minimal notchiness from the gearing inside, in fact I don’t really notice it. Wheel size is way better (diameter and thickness) with the leather giving a very nice feel. Buttons are very nicely placed. I come onto the lack of buttons question when describing the gearshift. Paddles on the back are very nice and I especially like the extended ears, which makes it easier to grab a gear when whipping the wheel about.

FF: Incredibly smooth with none of the jerkiness I found with the DFP. I have had to increase the FF up to 65% in LFS and 100% inRBR (compared to 50/70 ish) which is not to say the ff is weaker but more controlled and I think much less lag. The feel you get when the cars slide about makes the whole experience much more involving with the wheel behaving as it would in a normal car.

Pedals: I refuse to takes these apart...for now anyways. I can only assume that the red piston shape is a shroud for the springs, but then again that’s purely speculation. The accelerator has good spring strength and brake and clutch have heavy settings so you really have to stomp on the brakes now. The pedal travel is much longer which I am finding is making my driving smoother. You can heal and toe pretty easily for the downshift. I have resorted to my old climbing stickies as the pedal effort was giving me sore feet (used to use socks) and it makes the heal and toe easier. Probably due to the larger footprint/weight the pedals have not moved since I put them in place.

Gear stick/console: Good solid mounting. gear throw through the gates is swift and sure. There is a loudish click from the switches when you select a gear, but again I have gotten used to it pretty quickly and with earphones on it just give you a faintly audible/tactile notification that you have a gear. The stick stays in the gear position firmly. I have not tried it in sequential mode, and probably wont, as it is too much fun being able to jump from 6th to 2nd for hairpins etc. The lack off switches on the wheel has not really been a concern as when you are actually setup the switches actually fall nicely to you fingers. I also use binds for the wheel buttons to cycle through commands etc.

Overall: happy I spent the money. In LFS I am finding the difficult setups eg.Flotch WR set for Blackwood, which I found very difficult to drive with DFP has become transformed and a pleasure to use, with smoother acceleration and braking. The steering itself has very nice feel to it with lovely turn in and feedback. RBR same again finding it much easier to modulate braking and acceleration which has led me to knock about 3-5 secs of my PB,s.

I will be honest and say these both feel like new games again, not in a bad way but more like I am actually driving them..

If anybody else has any other questions then ill do my best to answer

Cheers Mike

Thanks for the preview. I just cant wait anymore ... Damn im kinda bored of my DFP, so its been a couple of week since my last race on LFS.
Good to hear that there's no play and no dead zone anymore. But do you think that the wheel will remain like this after a couple of month ?
Nevertheless what a relief to know that it'll be quiet contrary to the DFP which is well known to be noisy illepall

Quote from Jakg :

ah, did't know you were using a proto-type, assumed you just bought it

How did you become a Logitech Beta-tester?

Me asking the same question

Quote from Smax :

No...I'm not in the market for a kidney

Thanks for the pics dude . Looks like a hydrolic system , am I wrong ?

Man just look at the dust all over your desk lol. I cant stand it, I just have to clean it for you and take your wheel

Quote from Gabkicks :

i am starting to really become obsessed. i cant stop checking websites -_-.

. The videos on Youtube have confirmed my thoughs ... It have to be mine.

Quote from bbman :

I've ordered mine just yesterday for 220 €... Luckiest are the germans (as always), I found one for 200 €, but I would never say where...

Yes but with the shipping fies, it'll cost me about the same.

Nope you're wrong, luckiest are the richest .

It doesnt matter how much I pay as long as i have mine .

Edit: I've found the store where youv'e found the wheel for 200€, but why didnt you buy on it ? Is there any probleme with that store ? Ive actually pre-ordered, but I still havent paid. So do you have any feedback concerning the store ?

Last edited by Tanpax, Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:02.

Ive already pre-ordered mine . 245€ ... it's not that expensive after all.

Rest in peace Dave ...
My condolences and kind regards to his family.

Quote from Shoe Maker :

the TIR unit has a default key to enable and disable the unit, I have mine set to CONTROL + SHIFT + F12

If you look in the TIR software, you will see the default key and you can set your own.

Next I then program a button on my wheel to make the keypress CONTROL + SHIFT + F12

When I press that button, it enables TIR, press it again and it disables it

There is a second button in the TIR software that will 'centre' the view, and I have a second button on my wheel to do that also, again with a keypress like the first.

these two buttons on my wheel are the buttons I used to use to look left and right, so I am not losing any buttons out of this, Im just using them differently.

Yeah but you cant use both Track IR and the basic visual feedback assigned to the direction because in order to use the trackIR, you have to assign the feedback to the main Axis. If you have a solution ...

Quote from Shoe Maker :

I use my TrackIR 4 in LFS and I wouldn't be without it.

For me, I found the optimum way to use it is to program a button on my wheel to 'enable' and 'disable' it.

When it's disabled, the veiw snaps to the dafault LFS view. When its enabled I turn my head to see what I want then disable it again.

I don't use it for cornering very often, but it's invaluable when there is another car close to you and you want to look in that 'blind spot' to see where they are... You can hear them, but without trackIR, you can't see them.

45 degrees of instant head movement is ok, but it has it's limitations.

It took me a while to set the profile the way I wanted it, but now I can't race without it.

Best add on for LFS for people that own a wheel and don't have the space for a 6-DOF platform.

strictly IMHO of course...

How did you do that ? Can you give me further details please ?