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Quote from SamH :-snip-

.... SEE. I told you it was quite a bad idea...

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Sounds like some sound infomation there, Sam!
#27 - JJ72
Quote from Electric Eye ::-) Well I think you misunderstood me. I am going to study architecture here in Scotland and going away to the U.S.A. would be only considered after getting masters in architecture. Also I'm not British - came here only 4 years ago or so.

too early to think about it then, considering master would be what.......5 to 6 years later? your view would change a lot and might even fancy working in dubai.
Quote from mrodgers :300 people at my employment and we are down to about 20 since the Christmas break.

Shit, that's a drop.

I would've thought with the weak dollar you'd be exporting a lot, so manufacturing would be doing OK. Guess not.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Well since you don't want any negative comments, I can't tell you that it'd be incredibly difficult to ... b) find freinds (USA isn't overly fond of Brits, and even less so towards Scottish people, accent jokes anyone?)

Um, no.

Especially the girls.

We love Brits over here.
Quote from SamH :You can't drink til you're 21, even in your own home. You're far less likely to get let off with a warning by the cops than you are in the UK for the same stuff.

Good post in general, but afaik the law is that you can't sell to minors, and you can't be drunk in public, and if you encourage an underage person to drink you can be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but being underage and drinking isn't against the law. They can't charge you for anything.

Similar to the way certain countries/US states handle marijuana possession.
Quote from thisnameistaken :Shit, that's a drop.

I would've thought with the weak dollar you'd be exporting a lot, so manufacturing would be doing OK. Guess not.

Automotive parts supplier, remember?

Enough said there to explain the 20 people left...
Quote from DeadWolfBones :They can't charge you for anything.

Not true. The law is different in different states. In my state, it most definitely IS a crime, and you most definitely WILL get punished for it.
Quote from Electric Eye :Well I guess people who live in the USA should be speaking about what it is like over there.

It sucks.

Quote from SamH :

You also have to understand that the US is only "land of the free" by tagline. In actual practice, it's a fairly repressive society even compared with the UK, with its CCTV culture etc. You can't drink til you're 21, even in your own home. You're far less likely to get let off with a warning by the cops than you are in the UK for the same stuff. Smoking a spliff is more likely to get you jailed in the US than the UK. You can't place a bet legally outside a casino, even at a game of poker at home with your buddies. No, you probably won't get caught but the law is the law. If you piss off your neighbour you can easily be arrested - you'll get released without charge later, but it's damned inconvenient in the meantime..

Aint that the truth.


America... The only place where a cop(off duty) can get pulled over twice for DUI in the same night! and walk away with $500k and full retirement.
That's most likely because he was a (rather high ranking?) cop and they decided to adjust the law of their own accord. (Typical American policy right there)
Quote from S14 DRIFT :That's most likely because he was a (rather high ranking?) cop and they decided to adjust the law of their own accord. (Typical American policy right there)

Not quite. You can't just "adjust" the law to your liking when this story is all over the news..

The cop who was arrested sued the officer who arrested him for "unwarrented search" or some BS like that. So It's completely unprovable and It's one persons word vs. anothers. The cop who got the DUI obviously had an excellent scumbag peice of shit... Err.. I mean lawyer.

Sorry for the ot.
Quote from keiran :Bit off the topic but it doesn't happen to be RGU you have a conditional for? If so you'll be on the same campus as I'm At the moment I'm in the art school but we'll be kicked out to the basement of the architectural school in 2nd year!

:-) Yeah it is RGU that I got conditional for. Aberdeen UNI doesn't do Archi ;(

I have thought about Dubai as well ;-) Don't worry! ) Would be pretty hot and I guess the people wouldn't make much sense to me!

Big thanks to SamH for the reply, personally not that concerned about gambling, smoking, drinking. So I take it as it would be very unlikely for some architectural company in USA to go for someone from the UK rather than simply employ an American?

And the English, Scottish thing - once again... I'm neither of them :-) And yes 7-8 years is a long time - as I said at the start, just being curious! I like thinking...
Quote from Electric Eye :I take it as it would be very unlikely for some architectural company in USA to go for someone from the UK rather than simply employ an American?

You would have to be outstanding in comparison to the other (American) applicants for them to even bother with all the paperwork. And if any American who applies for the job can fill the role, they have to give the job to him/her in preference to an applicant from overseas.

I think basically if you want a job and an American also applies for it, you can't have it.

Edit: Probably your best bet would be to apply for jobs with English firms who have offices in the USA, and try to get a position in the states that way.
#38 - th84
Quote from S14 DRIFT :That's most likely because he was a (rather high ranking?) cop and they decided to adjust the law of their own accord. (Typical American policy right there)

I think it is time for you to give your ass a rest. Every comment you've made in this thread you have been talking out of it and I feel as though it deserves a rest.
Quote from DeadWolfBones :...but being underage and drinking isn't against the law. They can't charge you for anything.

As has already been pointed out, this largely isn't true. It depends on the local and state law, but here it's definitely illegal and you will be ticketed. It's bullshit of course, but it's what we get for allowing a few freedom-hating Puritan ****s to hijack the legal system and use it to force their warped, repressive morality on the public at large.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :That's most likely because he was a (rather high ranking?) cop and they decided to adjust the law of their own accord. (Typical American policy right there)

You've been embarassing yourself with your astounding lack of knowledge in this thread for a while. It's very clear you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, and should probably just shut the hell up.
Quote from thisnameistaken :You would have to be outstanding in comparison to the other (American) applicants for them to even bother with all the paperwork. And if any American who applies for the job can fill the role, they have to give the job to him/her in preference to an applicant from overseas.

I think basically if you want a job and an American also applies for it, you can't have it.

Edit: Probably your best bet would be to apply for jobs with English firms who have offices in the USA, and try to get a position in the states that way.

Yeah that's a good idea. Know one programmer from England who might be transferred to an office in U.S.A. So far from what I've read it seems as it'd be quite difficult to get a job over there - especially straight away after uni.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Well since you don't want any negative comments, I can't tell you that it'd be incredibly difficult to a) find a place over there and get a visa, b) find freinds (USA isn't overly fond of Brits, and even less so towards Scottish people, accent jokes anyone?) or c) find a college course without exceedingly good grades.

Umm, like everyone loves british people here. Where I live, everyone prefers the british pubs than our "normal" bars.
Lets stay on the topic a bit more ;P
Quote from D.Zanetti :Personally, I've always wanted to retreat to Canada.

Too right. Canada looks far more appealing than the US to me.
Quote from The Moose :Too right. Canada looks far more appealing than the US to me.

Yeah I thought about it as well - I wouldn't mind living there either! Really beautiful place.

But moving there sounds just as complicated

What is the petrol price over there?
#45 - SamH
What nationality are you?
I've seen enough documentaries to see that the law in America doesn't "always" apply to the police. (Police brutality towards Black people, for one).

As for everything else, most of it is just stereotypical comments which were not intended to be taken for _fact_.
Quote from SamH :What nationality are you?

Lithuanian ;-)
Quote from S14 DRIFT :I've seen enough documentaries to see that the law in America doesn't "always" apply to the police. (Police brutality towards Black people, for one).

I lived in Toxteth for a year. If you want to play Racist Police Force Top Trumps I can probably match your Rodney King card.
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