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I'm an audiophile
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Quote from gezmoor :A Mirror?

Mirrors don't bend light, they reflect light. Straight line coming in, straight line coming out.
The only way to bend light is by gravity. A strong enough gravity can only be "produced" by a very, very large mass, like the sun or a black hole.
My setup is completely dependent on what I'm doing at the moment, but most of the time I run a simple one.

Amp/subwoofer: Monsoon MM1000
Speaker wires: Solid core theater wires.
Speakers: (name to long to remember)

The speakers I use only play Mid-high fequency and everything else is on the sub. I can't understand why people would buy speakers that have massive drivers for low frequency and then run a sub anyway, it just makes the bass over powered. For me its one or the other, never both.

I don't spend that much on audio equipment because if you know how to set up an equalizer properly you shouldent need to spend retarded amounts of money on speakers to get good sound. I'm not saying cheap speakers are good, but there are alot of mid priced ones that perform better when set up proprely than some of the "high end" garbage.
My speakers are over NINE THOUSAND!

I'm perfectly happy with the sound quality of my Cheapomatic 1000 PC speakers. I only really listen to music on it these days with the odd bit of gaming every now and then. They do the job nicely. No point getting surround sound for the PC because I don't need it.
However, I am looking for a decent 5.1 Pro Logic system for my TV. Since I do most of my gaming on consoles these days and it'll show movies as well, it makes more sense to have a better experience on that. So if anyone can point me to a reasonable setup that won't break the bank then I'm all ears (see wut i did thar?).

My dad used to be a complete nutjob for good audio. This was long before surround sound. He spent hours with measuring tapes in his living room, figuring out the exact placement to get the best sound, buying amps and equalisers and all kind of stuff that most people wouldn't bother with. His speakers alone cost like £600 20 years ago. Mad bugger.
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I did rebuild my horn speakers using the same drive units in to a self designed TL design. It worked ok, but it was clear that it wasn't properly tuned and the bass/mid drive unit had the wrong properties as well. The bass was actually very dry and too low in level though it was obviously well extended.

I'm full of admiration for anyone that can build their own horn speakers, no easy task=)

I'd love to try some one day, but my room is too small for BIG horns, and I cant see the point in having a little one

The ipl kit T-line speakers are really very good, very nicely ballanced sound, Ivor Leslie has been designing 'em for years, and really knows his stuff. The Yams I use now are better, but so they should be... if they were made today, the cost would easily be over £2000... they were £1500 new in the late 70's I beleive. I was lucky to find a pair for a nice price from a gent I know that lives locally- I think he regrets selling them now, but he'll have to pry 'em from my cold dead hands to get em back
Quote from Bob Smith :Sources: NAD C541i for CDs, Audiophile 2496 sound card (in main PC) for MP3s/FLAC and integrated sound in second PC.

Interconnects: QED Quenex 1, 2, and 3, for CD player, main PC and second PC respectively.

Amp: Rotel RA-01

Speaker cables: QED Silver anniversary bi-wire

Speakers: 2x B&W DM601 S3s backed up with a Mordaunt Short MS309 subwoofer

Photo - note I don't race like that, was just playing around at the time.

My main issue with the system is that since I'm usually sat at the desk, I'm way too close to the speakers. It's difficult to explain, but sitting on my bed at the other end of the room, there's no obvious change, but everything just sounds more alive and suddenly justifies all the money I've spent. A shame, since it feels weird sitting there doing 'nothing'.

Do one thing for me, play this song:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CUuvIi3UFK4&fmt=18

Wait till 2:13...then take it all in.
Quote from kingfag :Mirrors don't bend light, they reflect light. Straight line coming in, straight line coming out.
The only way to bend light is by gravity. A strong enough gravity can only be "produced" by a very, very large mass, like the sun or a black hole.

fibers anyone?:hide:

idk if it bends the light the way you guys are talking about
#83 - Jakg
No it acts just like a mirror (in a single mode fibre at least), using total internal reflection to "bounce" the signal around the fibre.

In a multi-mode graded index fibre the light is "bent", but due to the the way the material is made up (the middle bit slows the light down more than the outside bit does, "bending" the light back towards the middle - this is done to keep the packets of data at the right intervals).
#84 - Woz
I used to really be into Hi-Fi, before I moved to NZ I had the following.

Linn Sondek + Lingo + Naim Aro + Troika
Naim Nac 62 + Nap 180
Ruark Speakers

It was a system that left most peoples jaw on the floor after hearing it. I sold before moving 1/2 way around the world.

Now I mostly listen to music on a PC or MP3 player through headphones. The benefits of instant access to thousands of tracks is more appealing.

I do love the sound of a good hi-fi but the costs involved can get mental. I would need the better part of 10000+UKP to replace the above now. The Sondek components come in over 5000 alone now. It was cheaper when I originally purchased.

The one big trouble with climbing the hi-fi ladder is that the higher you climb the more each step costs. I listen to music more now than ever, its just I can think of better uses for the cash hi-fi requires
Quote from Dik Dolan :I'm full of admiration for anyone that can build their own horn speakers, no easy task=)

Actually it's no harder than a T-Line. In fact a rear loaded horn is a form of T-Line only with the exact oposite objective, (to increase the efficiency of transmission out of the end of the line rather than absorb all of rear pressure from the drive unit).

Imagine your IPL kit but with each section of line increasing in area from it's start point to end point and you have a type of horn. The one I built had 5 equal length sections, with the area at the end of each section being twice that at the begining of the section, so the final exit of the horn had 32 times the area of the mouth of the horn. I kept the width of the cabinet fixed so from the outside they just looked like very large floorstanding speakers on spikes, (the exit of the horn was at the bottom of the speaker). IIRC they were about 25cm wide, 115cm tall and 70cm deep.


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I'd love to try some one day, but my room is too small for BIG horns, and I cant see the point in having a little one

Have you heard of Impulse? They used to make some quite small horn speakers.

http://www.acoustica.org.uk/impulse/impulse.html

I once had a demo of the H2 model ,(quite large), and I was very impressed, they were just out of my affordable price range at the time.


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The ipl kit T-line speakers are really very good, very nicely ballanced sound, Ivor Leslie has been designing 'em for years, and really knows his stuff. The Yams I use now are better, but so they should be... if they were made today, the cost would easily be over £2000... they were £1500 new in the late 70's I beleive. I was lucky to find a pair for a nice price from a gent I know that lives locally- I think he regrets selling them now, but he'll have to pry 'em from my cold dead hands to get em back

If you like the sound of the Yams then you're probably not going to like horns. Horns make bass in a completely different way, they're not neccesarily warm sounding, but as far as I know they never sound lean like the Yams did. But boy does the bass breath. You really get a sense of out of the box sounding bass with horns, with the kind of openness that you get with panel/electrostatic speakers through the midrange and treble.
I am somewhat uneducated in the building aspects of a proper stereo speaker setup. I have built a few bass boxes and have experimented with different sized, as well as ported and sealed boxes, that sound good depending on the type of music, and size and amount of subs used, but thats about it.

I just know subs do bass, mid range speakers do their stuff and tweeters go, er, tweet?

I'm an audiophile
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