Hello!
I need a new not-a-$1000 PC, and i know there are a lot of people who are good in hardware.

So i ask about this configuration, will it be good for LFS, and which part is too weak / doesn't matches others..

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000 3.1GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

RAM: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Video: XFX GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported - Retail < w00t, GTA IV go go go

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

PSU: Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply - Retail

MoBo: Foxconn A74MX-K AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Case: Rosewill R363-M-BK Micro Black Ultra High Gloss Finished ATX Computer Case with 400W ATX 2.2 12V Power Supply - Retail

I also want to run GTA IV on this, so want to ask, how many FPS will it run on medium settings?


BTW: Will this work with 400W PSU? I ask because that case has integrated 400W PSU.

Seem's a pretty solid system and should run GTA IV on medium .

I'd go with the 500w just to be on the safe side though.

Also imo if you can stretch a few quid more try and get a 1gb 9800GT there only a few quid more but will allow for the textures in GTA IV to run high

Hmm, this is mine maximum.

Maybe replace 9800GT by some cheaper but same performance ATI?
Because i choosen AMD processor - Intel Core2Duo for same price was 2.3ghz.

If you can't afford it stick with the 512mb it will still run most of the games out there without breaking a sweat

If you wanted to go for ATi you would be looking at the 4850's dont quite know how much they are compared to the 9800GT's though would have to have a shop around.

I would go with the Intel route - a 2.3 GHz CPU will be just as fast, but you have the possibility to pick up a cheap quad or faster dual core with people migrating to i7.

Jakg, i had very bad experience with Intel, plus when i had AMD it was VERY good in overclocking.
So maybe i can pull even 3.5 - 3.7 ghz out of this.

LOL.

Good luck getting any more than about 3.2 GHz out of that chip....

I've had AMD before, and got a 40% overclock out of it - I was impressed!

I got my Intel chip and did a 40% overclock with stock volts and even more to give :X

I saw a screenshot of it running 3.87 GHz, when stock was 3.0 and not 3.1

that chip has been known to run stable at 3.57ghz on air

Could probably get up to around 3.4ghz with just the FSB imo

Just so you know the 6000 cpu has been around the 3.4-5 mark

They are essentially the same chipsets as the AMD 4800-5200

I run a 5200 AM2 and with about a week of tweaking I got it from 2.71 to 3.24. I can assure you though on air cooled you will be unlikely to get 3.87ghz, the architecture of the cpu is quite limited

I was lucky to get 500 extra mhz
This was done air cooled. Mind you though watercooled didn't seem worth it, the architecture was limited before heat going up was too much of an issue

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I saw a screenshot of it running 3.87 GHz, when stock was 3.0 and not 3.1

Still better to get a newer intel with newer architecture and newer tech. Im not expert on the budget c2d's though, so eh.
And just fyi, I have an amd 3700+.

Well first thing, you should get an S2 License. And 2nd, you should get a better PSU; and get a modular one.

I got my 750 watt PSU for 70 bucks. The extra power is well worth it in the long run.

Anyways, the rest of it looks nice. More mid-ranged, and the specs are a lot like my computer.

A 750watt PSU is likely to be shit and you run the risk of it blowing up.

It also probably doesn't supply 750watt anyway.

Cheap PSU's are a false economy.

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Well first thing, you should get an S2 License

Mine current PC gets ~10 fps on full demo grid (that 10 - 12 cars), so in S2 at start line i will get ~3 fps. So s2 will be bough, as i said, somewhere near 26'th march.

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I got my 750 watt PSU for 70 bucks. The extra power is well worth it in the long run.

What about cost of electricity?

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Anyways, the rest of it looks nice. More mid-ranged, and the specs are a lot like my computer.

Tell me how GTA IV runs in your PC


2Jakg: 400W PSU is free (comes with case).

the minimum cpu for GTA 4 is an AMD duel core. but that would have to be the very high end AMD. you need a triple or quad core (phenom)to play GTA 4 on med-high settings.

Hmm, but that's 3.1 ghz.
Minimum was 1.8 or 2.0 ghz.

Edit: OK, found case with 550W PSU which costs only $10 more. Will get it (same manufacturer, same design).

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Mine current PC gets ~10 fps on full demo grid (that 10 - 12 cars), so in S2 at start line i will get ~3 fps. So s2 will be bough, as i said, somewhere near 26'th march.What about cost of electricity?Tell me how GTA IV runs in your PC


2Jakg: 400W PSU is free (comes with case).

a 750watt PSU will only use the energy your PC needs.

As it is, a 400w PSU that comes with your case is shit - i doubt a generic PSU would even power that PC tbh.

OK i choosen 585W PSU. I am sure it is ok.

But i changed Athlon64 X2 6000 to Athlon64 X2 7750, it has slower stock clock (2.7 ghz), but it has non-locked multi.

Two things I'd like to advice you.

I cannot see any reason why to get obsolete AMD X2 when you can get Intel Core2. C2D at 2.3 GHz should be just as fast as X2 6000 but with less power consumption and TDP. C2D's are generally very overclockable and there is no problem to reach 4.0GHz with many of them when you have solid MB and some decent cooling. It's up to you, but I would never even think of getting AMD into a new PC at this time as C2D is just better in every way. As for the PSU, those which are shipped with case usually have poor qualiy and I wouldn't dare to put them in anything but some office PC. Overall wattage of 550W tells you nothing and branded 450W will most likely perform better than no-name 550W. Best solution would be getting case with no PSU(they're a bit cheaper) and some branded(Cheiftec, Fortron, Corsair, Enermax,....) 500W PSU.

MadCatX, i changed 6000 to new 7750, and it is very good overclockable.
I won't go for intel because they are VERY expensive and i am limited to $450 (now i have everything for $441).

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What about cost of electricity?

750 watt should really use less electricity than the 400 watt one, due to it running at much lower % of its capacity and is therefore, more efficient.

Actually PSU's tend to be most efficient at their almost max rated continuous (not peak) output.

Although something like a branded 600w PSU will have a much better efficiency than a no-name 700w...

Quote from Jakg :

Actually PSU's tend to be most efficient at their almost max rated continuous (not peak) output.

Although something like a branded 600w PSU will have a much better efficiency than a no-name 700w...

Lol, no. Stop talking. Just because its a "popular" brand PSU, doesn't mean it's the best. My PSU runs great and it's very silent. I really don't think having a 750 watt PSU is anything to worry about on the power consumption...LMFAO.

You'd have to be on welfare in order to actually have the thing hog up your cash, so don't falsely advertise. Let the man get what he wants; and like i said, the extra power is better/cheaper in the long run.

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Tell me how GTA IV runs in your PC

I'm on an OC'd 9600 GSO and i get like 30 frames.. The game is terrible, and you will soon realize. It stutters and crashes every 10-30 mins. I'm lucky to have gotten a very awesome 3 hours of gameplay out of it tho, without crashing. I wouldn't waste your money on GTA4 yet.

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Lol, no. Stop talking. Just because its a "popular" brand PSU, doesn't mean it's the best. My PSU runs great and it's very silent. I really don't think having a 750 watt PSU is anything to worry about on the power consumption...LMFAO.

You'd have to be on welfare in order to actually have the thing hog up your cash, so don't falsely advertise. Let the man get what he wants; and like i said, the extra power is better/cheaper in the long run.

Except a cheapo PSU uses "peak" figures rather than sustained, and also does it's tests at room temperature (21° C) rather than 50° which is what the air in your case to get to.

If your happy to use a Qtec PSU or equal junk then fine, but I know so many people who've got burned doing it (in fact I "saved" buying a £30 PSU and it killed an £80 board when i turned it on for the first time. I then had to go and buy a proper PSU AND another board).

If the man wants to get it then fine - but from the fact he made a thread asking for help I think he actually wants help and advice.

I'll agree a more powerful PSU is usually a good idea for upgrades, but a more powerful PSU which is quality it a good idea, a cheap-o 700w PSU will never power a decent rig, and if it blows up (which it's likely to do) then rather than just taking itself out it'll take out other components.

of topic. but if i buy a external hard drive will that make my computer run faster? I don't know the specs of my computer is but i know its a dell inspiron 530. i got it last year so and its kinda starting to run slow (And no i didnt down load any porn :P)