I don't really see why this is so hard for you to understand... Words don't have absolute meanings and are dependent on context. The fact that paki is an abbreviation is irrelevant: it is usually used in an abusive context, in which the nationality of a person is given prejudicial emphasis. It therefore becomes "racist".
Nationalism is an infantile emotion, and the nationalist roots of the term ricer are obvious to anyone with half a brain and a passing interest in recent history. I won't deny that the word can be used playfully, but only the passage of a great deal of time will erase the echo of a playground insult from the word.
Not true - many cars are sold with performance or driving feel as a major selling point. Comfort is only one part of the compromise.
But even if you choose to ignore that compromise then you've still got a challenge on your hands when you decide to change wheels, dampers, springs and/or geometry and expect it all to work nicely together. The 'specialists' don't know enough, in most cases, to make an informed decision, and I doubt that most ricers do either.
Just bolting random stuff on and hoping it'll work - or being too insensitive to know if it doesn't - counts as ricing in my book.
And I'll state again - this is my opinion. If you don't subscribe to it then just ignore it. If you happen to feel aggrieved that you fall into my category of ricer then either accept it (it doesn't matter - we'll never meet), or prove that you did think about what you were doing when choosing your wheels based on looks.
why do you feel your opinion is so important that you advise us to ignore you rather than you holding your tounge (or fingers as the case may be)? sorry bud, you're no where important enough to determine the meaning of the word ricer.
Because for him, his opinion is indeed fact, every time.
To clear it up, I would regard Tristan's opinion as fact on the snow thread. You would be a moron if you can't figure out how to drive in the snow. It takes only 1 wrong application of the throttle to realize "It's really slippery driving in snow." Afterwards, it should be common sense how to drive in it. "We're not use to snow" is only an excuse.
Tristan's opinion is NOT fact in this thread. He has in his mind rewritten the definition of the slang "Ricer" and thus all shall abide by his definition.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with switching an ugly set of factory wheels for an asthetically appealing set of aftermarket wheels. Suspension geometry does not change as long as you stay within a boundry (same overall wheel + tire size). Changing from heavy factory wheels to lighter aftermarket wheels is not detrimental to the handling of a normal road car. It helps it. But Tristan says that it is detrimental and we all must abide by what Tristan says because everything he says is "fact".
I would hate to see Tristan's home. After all, nice looking hardwood floors, ceramic tile, slate, carpet or whatever on the floors, paint on the walls, nice interior doors, window drapery or curtains, nice hardware on cabinetry or even nice cabinetry in the kitchen, etc. That would all be rice. I'd hate for Tristan to be a home ricer. Thus I assume that there is none of this stuff in his home.
I haven't done this for about two years, but as you seem to be so insulted that someone else has an opinion that differs from yours I'll keep going. Just to wind you up
Just to restate AGAIN this is all my opinion. Not yours. I'm not trying to make you believe it, or claiming it as the Gospel Truth of Ricing. It's just my opinion that almost anyone (exceptions in every rule of course) who modifies a car incompletely or without finding out what they're doing is a ricer. If that is you because you bolted on a set of shiny wheels without understanding the first thing about vehicle dynamics then so be it.
If my opinion, be it fact or fiction, is so unimportant, why are you in tears over it?
Actually it may help it, it may may it worse. Depends on whether the original wheels were being under/correctly/over damped by the OEM dampers. If they were being correctly damped then any change in mass of the wheels will cause the amount of damping to be wrong. Heavier wheels will make the system underdamped and lighter wheels will make the system over damped (relative to "correct" damping). Then there is spring rate to account for. The spring rate will (in combination with the unsprung mass), determine the natural resonance frequency of the suspension system, this resonance is important both in terms of the dynamics of the vehicle and the size/frequency etc of the bumps the suspension can effectively absorb. Changing the wheels mass will affect this frequency and so affect these aspects of the vehicles performance.
Point Tristan is (correctly) making is that without actually knowing what the damping of the system was originally and without knowing the spring rate and total mass of the unsprung weight, you'll never know how much :
a) Your replacement wheel should weigh and/or
b) How much your damping should be adjusted to account for the change in wheels mass and/or
c) How much your spring rate should be adjusted to account for the new wheels mass.
The above is true even if the orginal design parameters were compromised towards comfort and you wanted to improve handling/roadholding. Without knowing the original values and figures you will just have no clue which way to go to achieve what you want.
Common misconception (Especially here... grr) is that a Japanese car is a 'ricer'. IT'S NOT!!
FFS people shouldn't refer to Jap cars as ricers. If they've got something under the hood, don't call it like that. Take for example the Skyline GT-R (excepting the ones on FnF..). People say it's rice.
a japanese car would be refered to as a rice burner. someone who mods their car in the style of the japanese modding community is known as a ricer.
it's strange but the mazda mx-5 is known as a rice burner but over here it's refered to as a hairdressers car. but yet we know of one owner who hates rice and doesn't cut hair, but he insists his car is the shitz.
sorry tristan, i thought if that when having a dump.
I like rice the foodstuff And my car is a 'rice-burner'. But it's not riced and I'm not a ricer (though I have riced once in my life before, when I fitted GTi wheels to a diesel Peugeot. Oh the shame. Ruined the car too).
If it serves no useful purpose, then it is likely to be rice.
However it can be argued that even 'visual' modification serves a 'useful purpose' of making a car look nicer, however it is damn hard to modify a car visually and not make it look bloody awful, its the same reason why just about all kit-cars are really ugly, big car companies get the likes of Pininfarina and Bertone in to style their cars (and they know what they are doing!), your average Birmingham Ben is probrably not quite so talented in styling cars.
says the cock blister. the fact that i have attempted to contribute to this thread in a much more productive way than you only indicates the sub-level of intelligence you currently possess. was that the best post you could think of posting in a thread that is talking about the word rice and its origin? i know why you decided to give old dadgey here a whirl, because you know sweet eff all.......moron. please explain for the class what a rice burner is in relation to this conversation? also, please explain what the common name for a mazda mx-5 is in the uk (yeah, do it all the way from dilligaf)
and finally, please post something a little bit more constructive than "blah blah blah, this is the best insult i can do between diaper (nappy) changes.
dont you think youre completely exaggerating the importance of wheel weight tristan? most cars suspensions are hardly set up to perfection and totally underdamped without exception (which might be an issue with lighter wheels but i dont think youll ever notice any difference)
Hah, you complain in earlier posts that Tristan insults and forces his opinion upon other people...
While doing exactly the same thing yourself, most of the above thread sounds uncannily like something Tristan himself would post.
And so, you are no more productive than anyone else, neither am I, but I'm not the one telling everyone that I am right and that anyone who disagrees is a 'cock blister'. I really hate people who can't have an argument without referring to someone as a certain part of genitalia.
And now more OT, a car is a bit like your clothes or your hair, its your own style, and so wether you want your car to look clean and understated or O-T-T and arrogant is a matter of taste, so maybe the true definition of 'rice' is...
"Car owners lacking in what is commonly seen as good taste".
And my car is a 'rice-burner'. But it's not riced and I'm not a ricer (though I have riced once in my life before, when I fitted GTi wheels to a diesel Peugeot. Oh the shame. Ruined the car too).
