I have a problem with Logitech drivers. It doesn't recognize my logitech g25... Windows 7 itself installs drivers for it... but the logitech software just can't recognize it as a logitech device .
EDIT: Aha... hehe. I just went to Control Panel, devices... etc. I was looking for the G25 drivers, that the Win7 installed. In properties was "About" panel. There was Logitech Profiler etc. Clicked on it and the profiler just poped-up. Little confusing, but ok, it works. Going for a try.
EDIT2: I had 90fps... now I have 160-170. And with full AA and AF (of course + max. details etc.) = 90fps.
Amazing. Love it.
Windows 7 is working perfectly for me, no complaints at all. It's fast, light weight, kills XP in performance, so unless MS purposely does something insane I'll be first in line to buy it. Nothing but great experiences so far.
I've played Left4Dead, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3, oh and both Stalker games on it, and hte performance, I swear, is at the minimum even, but more than half the time it's better, especially minimum frame rates, which is most important. It comes out to like 5-8% improvement, although the Windows 7 is a brand new install, I dunno if that would help, I doubt it, load times won't effect frame rates. Oh also, dynamic lights seem to not be so costly on your GPU on win7, I can't think of any real explanation for it either...
Windows 7 works wonders for me. SO much better, especially in LFS. For some reason, I can record 30 FPS now at 1x speed in W7 but in Vista, it goes down to 15.
That is the reason why software companies don't like making new, better products. People like me and you are ruining the software industry for every body else that do things legitimately.
On/T
Windows 7 is sounding better and better as more reviews come in. It will be a definite buy for me, especially if it runs LFS better and among other things as well.
no the software industry is ruining it for itself and has been ever since the first forms of copy protection gave birth to the scene
especially with os'... 99% of the market is oem installations which get sold no matter what the tiny rest is those few geeks wholl always use either the latest os or one of the more obscure ones and at least since xp windows has been anything but geek friendly
im sure retail sales would grow significantly of buying installing and using windows were about as convenient as downloading a cracked corporate iso
That 99% of the market is the only market. Since the ones with cracked versions don't count as "market" (me before I bought XP). The rest are non-potential sales that would have made more money if they had purchased.
Stumbling upon cracked corporate versions of OS's, Isn't it convenient? I've always thought it was.
However, by purchasing anything, you are telling the creators they are doing something right and should continue, for example: buying LFS.
That is also true in the opposite sense. In purchasing something you are also telling the creators what it is they can get away with and are able to continue (usually something detrimental), for example: the hypothetical mass-purchase of windows vista.
So, by not purchasing something, you are telling the creators there is something wrong. And creating incentive to improve, for example: the reality of windows vista.
Thats why MS got in trouble with Vista. It lowered the minimum specs so it could be put on more laptops (more oem sales) even though they knew it would run like shit.
Ultimately the people actually buying the software are too small of a market.
I for one am almost sure I am going to pirate it. Buying LFS and buying Win7 are 2 completely different things.
I completely disagree with both things.
If someone doesn't pay for the most important software on his computer, why would he ever pay for anything else he uses on it? (even if it's LFS )
Today you are pirating the OS, tomorrow you're going to pirate the programs you use on it and sooner or later you'll end up pirating everything you can. It's a vicious cycle. Of course it's my opinion and I can't affirm for sure, but I think for example if you didn't actually need to pay for S2 to play LFS online you wouldn't have paid for it, and would've used a pirated version instead.
If one thinks Windows 7 or <insert_product_name_here> isn't worth it, why pirating it? This just proves he actually wants it but does't want to pay for it, and this is really bad for everyone.
I've never ever pirated anything. Everything I use on my computer from the OS to the games and music were legally bought ($$). If I can't afford something at some time or don't feel like spending my money with it, I wait until I change my mind (or get some money) and then take what I want (or not).
I'm just trying to make some points that I think are important, I have nothing against anyone or something like that, nor this post is supposed to be a rant
Because LFS and Win7 are 2 different entities. One is a program made by a handful of people. The other is a massive corporation that makes the majority of it's money from xbox and OEM sales.
With that said I pirate most everything, so I've already peaked on my 'viscious cycle' lol. There are very few games I have gone out and bought after playing because they deserve my hard earned cash, and I won't pay $60 for a game I haven't played first hand. Dead space, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Doom 3, Advent Rising, Crysis, and Farcry are a few of the game I remember that I actually paid for. That, and LFS. Thats why LFS got me hooked and why I shelled out money for their quality product.
I don't even want to talk about how much money I have spent on single developer projects for windows mobile I have donated money to. Far too much for a phone program lol
Hell I don't pay for CD's either. If I like a band, I will go see their shows knowing full well that shows are where most bands make the majority of their money.
Pirating Win7 or XP or vista does not hurt MS as much as they say it does. It's worse in foreign countries like korea where most every copy is pirated, but MS still makes the majority of its OS sales through OEM to companies like Dell and Sony. I will say I was wrong on my first statement; people buying software is a BIG market. However for OS sales for MS, it is not.
Besides, MS wants people to move on from XP. I'll happily move on, but not to the tune of 300 dollars. Thats a months worth of food for me.
The problem here is that we get into an idealogical argument, which is never going to end. Someone who has taken the moral highground (no offense intended) by not pirating and someone else who doesn't care as much.
Fack, this is way too serious of a conversation *Runs off to FE gold rev to drift some* ahhhh much better
Do you mean windows 7 supports horizontal span (display extended on two screens without any hardware like matrox box needed -> for example 2 1280x1024 monitors become one large 2560x1024 display and all applications like LFS see it as a 2560x1024 display and render on both screens without even knowing about it)?
It seems to me Vista did not support it. It would be great if windows 7 does.
Windows 7 does support this and does render both screens correctly without the need of additional software, and also Windows XP does. But for Windows XP you'll need to set your graphics card driver for double monitor, so it'll display correctly, while for Windows 7 it enables this by default (at least this is what I've noticed, because I didn't change anything on graphics driver settings and I can see the option in LFS to use 2048x768 [my secondary monitor is 15"], but on Windows XP I needed to configure it on graphics driver).
I don't know about Vista though.
Well, all you need to have is two monitor and slots for plugging them in (e.g.: nVidia or ATi graphics card with 2 DVI slots)
But actually, 1440x900 is normal monitor widescreen (16:10), so he wasn't using this thing you mentioned
Woohooo, this is great news! Thank you. It shows windows 7 is more XP than Vista. With this I suppose it is possible to use three monitors without matrox triplehead2go, and with a higher resolution (th2go is still limited)!
And are you using the latest nvidia drivers? I remember reading somewhere that they intended to stop supporting horizontal span with new drivers. Maybe now horizontal span is done at a lower level inside windows and nvidia drivers see a new possible resolution covering both screen when they enumerate possible resolutions and do not have to care about it.
Well, I don't know about using 3 monitors (because I just don't have 3 monitors for trying it out ), so I can't say for sure. But for using 2 monitors it works just fine here There is also a keyboard shortcut for changing view mode (very easy and cool actually, no need to configure anything just press the shortcut on the keyboard, it works just like alt + tab but instead of changing windows it changes the way Windows manages the connected displays it is supposed to be very quick and easy so there are no extra options, just the most common ones). It's the Windows + P shortcut (in my computer it changes from: duplicate display, extend display, only use primary or only use secondary display). You can also set your monitors differently by configuring them on graphics card drivers, but it's not necessary, because the other monitor is automatically configured as a extension to the primary when you connect it (plug and play).
I'm using the latest (181.22) drivers (Windows Vista drivers on Windows 7).
Not to hijack, but quick question, now that I have a 32" HDTV (For me it's totally huge...) I'm curious if I can just race on the TV, and have guages and other important info on my monitor, kinda the way I use my G15 keyboard right now? That would be really cool...
Gotta say Windows 7 is miles apart compared to Vista. I have been using all three(XP/Vista/Windows7). I am now just using Windows7 even though games like GT Legends dont work and rFactor. So long as GTR Evo and now reading this thread LFS working fine then I am happy.
Games that I have installed and work fine are:
Crysis
Half Life - Orange Box version
Race 07 - Inc the 2 exp packs
Bioshock
GTR Evolution (demo) is working perfectly here
All the games and mods I tested so far are working (40+ games). I didn't test GT Legends nor rFactor because I don't have them. Are you using the WDDM graphics drivers? If so, check if you have the latest ones (Prerelease - WDDM 1.1 drivers, published 2/18/2009). If not, use the Vista drivers from www.nvidia.com/drivers or http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML . Latest nVidia driver is 182.06, also released in 2/18
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Are you using the WDDM graphics drivers? If so, check if you have the latest ones (Prerelease - WDDM 1.1 drivers, published 2/18/2009). If not, use the Vista drivers from