Quote from gezmoor :

Your fault for brake testing?? are you joking?? The fault is 100% completely yours for hitting him deliberately!!! That makes you a complete moron. IMO people like you should be banned from driving for life. Tagging someone up the rear is one of the most dangerous things you can do whilst driving. I don't care how stupidly the guy in front was behaving there is absolutely no justification for deliberately hitting someone whilst driving.

There is PLENTY justification for deliberately hitting someone whilst driving... Some people only learn the hard way, and to be rammed from behind non fatally is the EASY way... You clearly braketest people, it's not fun, it's dangerous, you wouldn't believe the consertina effect it has on motorways because when people see brake lights it's like a panic button in their minds has been pressed and you will see people braking all the way down the motorway, when there are 100m gaps inbetween drivers and they are all going roughly around the speedlimit...

I don't understand people like you, because clearly you are defending braketesters and dualcarridgeway blockers too, it happened to my dad once where someone in a Rover or some crap moved right when my dad wanted to overtake, my dad then went back to his original position on the left hand side only to be obstructed yet again, so he went to the right AGAIN only to be BLOCKED AGAIN, so he rammed him in the rear, then the blocking driver had the cheek to report my dad and my dad got points on his license, and if he hadn't of rammed him, his license would've been completely clean.

I agree with AJP, it's not half as dangerous as braketesting someone it SHOULD stop them from doing it, it's the most annoying, dangerous thing people do on the road, and drivers like women don't realise they are doing it, some women and men seem to have a problem with understanding how THEIR driving actions can affect OTHER motorists and cause crashes. I HATE that kind of ignorance...

Quote from BlueFlame :

my dad and my dad got points on his license, and if he hadn't of rammed him, his license would've been completely clean.

Shit mate, really?

Oh wait...

what the hell is wrong with you?
i don't know whether you simply don't care about anything or just mix up virtual and real world, but hitting other drivers on purpose simply cannot be justified.

Quote from Biohazard :

...hitting other drivers on purpose simply cannot be justified.

And would likely earn a slap from most people, myself included.

Quote from pb32000 :

Shit mate, really?

Oh wait...

Meaning he has never had any points on his license OTHER than for that incident.

Quote from Biohazard :

what the hell is wrong with you?
i don't know whether you simply don't care about anything or just mix up virtual and real world, but hitting other drivers on purpose simply cannot be justified.

You make it out like I hit drivers when I feel like it, no, it's just braketesters and lane changers, doing it to mess with you, they are potentially causing accidents for their own amusement, by getting a tap in their backside maybe they will realize they aren't the only people on the planet with lives to lose and start driving more respectively. Theoretically brake testers and lane blockers aren't doing anything illegal, which is why they are never stopped by police and why they are never in the wrong, legally speaking..

This happened today in the one street i need to take from home to work. The truck hit a car and two parked cars (in one of those car a man was just putting his child in the childseat and seatbelt. Nobody got hurt, although one man in one of the cars passed out for a minute) and the busdriver thought he could drive around it.





What is the point of my post? That stupid drivers don't need a roundabout to do stupid things

Quote from BlueFlame :

You make it out like I hit drivers when I feel like it, no, it's just braketesters and lane changers, doing it to mess with you, they are potentially causing accidents for their own amusement, by getting a tap in their backside maybe they will realize they aren't the only people on the planet with lives to lose and start driving more respectively. Theoretically brake testers and lane blockers aren't doing anything illegal, which is why they are never stopped by police and why they are never in the wrong, legally speaking..

No matter what they do... hitting somebody on purpose in traffic is NOT OK! If you think it is (and even if you think it only applies for those "braketesters and lane changers"), you should never ever get a driving license (or have it taken away in case you have one already).

To think it's ok to hit people in traffic is beyond stupid!

Quote from BlueFlame :

Meaning he has never had any points on his license OTHER than for that incident.


You make it out like I hit drivers when I feel like it, no, it's just braketesters and lane changers, doing it to mess with you, they are potentially causing accidents for their own amusement, by getting a tap in their backside maybe they will realize they aren't the only people on the planet with lives to lose and start driving more respectively. Theoretically brake testers and lane blockers aren't doing anything illegal, which is why they are never stopped by police and why they are never in the wrong, legally speaking..

Agreed!

Technically speaking, the driver that actually hits the other car is the one at fault legally as you mentioned, no matter what the driver in front did. It was a very big problem a few years ago where certian stupid people were slamming their handbrake up, and then locking the brakes up deliberately in order to claim on the other innocently following drivers insurance, and to claim compensation for whiplash, etc.

Applying the handbrake first dramatically slows the car, but shows no brake lights, so 99% of the time the innocent follower will hit as there is no warning, until they apply the footbrake a few seconds later, by which time the accident has already happened.

Quote from gezmoor :

I was about to commen to the OP if he feels he gets treated badly driving a car to try riding a motorbike. With car drivers they're just being stupid. When it comes to motorcycles a fair percentage of car drivers actively begrudge you even being on the road. For example, I lost count of the number of drivers that pulled forward in a queue of traffic and purposfuly pulled over near a traffic island etc to block my path. Why ?? well basicaly they hate the fact that on a motorcycle you're making progress and they're not, and all because they're too frightened to ride one themselves.

Lol. It's cause "oh look it's a biker" syndrome. We're little, quite agile Bee's and they're Elephants. Like you said, they hate us because we can do what they can't.

I pulled in behind the first car at a set of traffic lights. Matey boy in this taxi (behind me) didn't want to let me through, tried to cut me up. I gassed it, and then he proceeded to overtake me in a 30mph (I was doing 32 according to dash, probably 29-30 real) and he then slowed down. Come the 40 zone literally 20 seconds up the road, I blasted past him and sat infront of him just shaking my head.

Why are people so blatantly arrogant.

Quote from jibber :

No matter what they do... hitting somebody on purpose in traffic is NOT OK! If you think it is (and even if you think it only applies for those "braketesters and lane changers"), you should never ever get a driving license (or have it taken away in case you have one already).

To think it's ok to hit people in traffic is beyond stupid!

Im sorry but i think you are totally wrong. For the 100th time, we are not talking about innocent motorists, we are talking about people deliberately trying to cause an accident by driving in a very dangerous and retarded manner to wind other motorists up who are unlucky enough to be stuck behind them.

We are also not suggesting driving flat out through the back of a parked car either, just a slight nudge to let them know that they should drive with more consideration for other motorists.

Incidently, most of the cars that i have seen doing this do not look fit for the road anyway, plus if they are braking as hard as some of the ones i have seen, they are obviously trying to make the car behind hit them so sometimes they get their wish.

Quote from BlueFlame :

You make it out like I hit drivers when I feel like it, no, it's just braketesters and lane changers, doing it to mess with you.

It's not that Hitler killed simply everybody. Just Jews, the retarded and gays.
I know this is more than just exaggerated, but the argument "it's just A and B" is invalid.

You said that "brake testers and lane blockers aren't doing anything illegal, so how the f*** is self-justice in those particular cases justified? (Not that it would be at all.)

Nudging the car in front of you is in no way less dangerous than braketesting the car behind. Making the car behind you slow down is nothing compared to push the one in front. Furthermore, if you keep sufficient safety distance applying a bit of brake force should not dramatically the risk of crashing.[/quote]

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Im sorry but i think you are totally wrong. For the 100th time, we are not talking about innocent motorists, we are talking about people deliberately trying to cause an accident by driving in a very dangerous and retarded manner to wind other motorists up who are unlucky enough to be stuck behind the..

We are also not suggesting driving flat out through the back of a parked car either, just a slight nudge to let them know that they should drive with more consideration for other motorists.

Incidently, most of the cars that i have seen doing this do not look fit for the road anyway.

As i've said in my previous post: "no matter what".

Maybe if the other guy is pointing a gun at you, and you would be able to avoid being shot, then i could justify to bump into another car (just an example).

Even if it's the biggest idiot you've ever come accross driving in front of you. If you decide to hit the other car (even if it's just a tap), you are not better at all. Sorry, but again, if you even remotely think of hitting other cars on purpose (and feel like "yeah, it can be justified to do that"), then you are a complete idiot IMO (i'm speaking generally here, please don't feel offended).

Quote from danthebangerboy :

we are talking about people deliberately trying to cause an accident by driving in a very dangerous and retarded manner to wind other motorists up who are unlucky enough to be stuck behind them.

Oh, and because of that you are driving in a very dangerous and retarded manner to wind exactly those motorists up who are unlucky enough to be driving in front of you? Very logical.

Quote from Biohazard :

You said that "brake testers and lane blockers aren't doing anything illegal", so how the f*** is self-justice in those particular cases justified? (Not that it would be at all.)

Not doing anything 'illegal' just because it's legal doesn't mean it's not ****ing stupid and dangerous.

I'm not offended at all mate, its a discussion.

I don't know what people drive like in switzerland but there are some special kind of idiots with the worst attitudes ever when driving over here. As i mentioned earlier, some even do it by using the handbrake and footbrakes to MAKE you hit them so they can claim from your insurance as you are 'legally' at fault, eventhough they caused it. Plus when you can see them laughing in the mirror, giving various hand signals etc, it makes it obvious that they are doing it for fun, and a little nudge spoils their fun.

did you even read the rest of my post?

Quote from BlueFlame :

Not doing anything 'illegal' just because it's legal doesn't mean it's not ****ing stupid and dangerous.

And tapping another car on purpose, only because it's illegal, doesn't mean it's f***ing stupid and dangerous! I think now i got it! Wait...

Quote from danthebangerboy :

I'm not offended at all mate, its a discussion.

I don't know what people drive like in switzerland but there are some special kind of idiots with the worst attitudes ever when driving over here. As i mentioned earlier, some even do it by using the handbrake and footbrakes to MAKE you hit them so they can claim from your insurance as you are 'legally' at fault, eventhough they caused it.

Wouldn't expect anyone from Switzerland to know what real DANGER is anyway, every corner has a cushion taped to it in that country and twice as many speed bumps.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

I'm not offended at all mate, its a discussion.

I don't know what people drive like in switzerland but there are some special kind of idiots with the worst attitudes ever when driving over here. As i mentioned earlier, some even do it by using the handbrake and footbrakes to MAKE you hit them so they can claim from your insurance as you are 'legally' at fault, eventhough they caused it. Plus when you can see them laughing in the mirror, giving various hand signals etc, it makes it obvious that they are doing it for fun, and a little nudge spoils their fun.

I've never encountered the handbrake method... but trust me, there are complete idiots on the streets in switzerland... you find idiots in every country, it's not something that depends on nationality.

I was trying to say...

It doesn't matter how much of an idiot somebody is. You still have to stick to rules. And you should aswell stick to being a responsible driver. It is not according to the rules, and not responsible AT ALL, to hit another car. Period.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Wouldn't expect anyone from Switzerland to know what real DANGER is anyway, every corner has a cushion taped to it in that country and twice as many speed bumps.

LOL! I guess you haven't spent much time over here, did you? Ever seen some of the swiss mountains and the roads there? It's really easy to kill yourself there. And even if we would have the most safe streets in the world with rubber shields on the side of the roads (lol), that doesn't make irresponsible driving (tapping another car for example, or braketesting if you want) less dangerous. You totally missed the point (i feel like you did that on purpose tho).

Quote from BlueFlame :

Wouldn't expect anyone from Switzerland to know what real DANGER is anyway, every corner has a cushion taped to it in that country and twice as many speed bumps.

Plus that is where volvo's come from. I would NOT want to hit something like a 240 estate, as they are intensely strong, very heavy, and pretty much un bendable.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Plus that is where volvo's come from. I would NOT want to hit something like a 240 estate, as they are intensely strong, very heavy, and pretty much un bendable.

Errrm... yeah right. I forgot that i live in Sweden...

Tbh, if some moron had done something INCREDIBILY moronic, such as in Alex's (ajp's) example, I'd also give them a "friendly" tap up the backside to let them know they're doing so! I hardly think a 1mph speed difference will cause someone to veer off into a firey ball of death!

Jibber rules work both ways. If someone breaks them, then karma would say someone else will break them too. What goes around comes around, as they say.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Tbh, if some moron had done something INCREDIBILY moronic, such as in Alex's (ajp's) example, I'd also give them a "friendly" tap up the backside to let them know they're doing so! I hardly think a 1mph speed difference will cause someone to veer off into a firey ball of death!

Jibber rules work both ways. If someone breaks them, then karma would say someone else will break them too. What goes around comes around, as they say.

Fiery ball of death you say...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/73069.stm

Lol...

Seems like the guy who was hitting them did it multiple times...

Quote :

An amateur rally driver who described himself as the "best driver ever

Enough said really.. if you think you're the best, you invariably are one of the worst.

From that article, it seems that he tried a pit move instead of a tap on the bumper. That's a large difference, you know.