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#1 - -ale-
RWD Question
Hi!

Maybe that's not the right section to talk about it, but since the question can be answered with a setup I posted it here :P

Well, I'm new to LFS, but thx to some advices I got my wheel working fine and I also practiced a lot these last days. I noticed my time using FWD cars were just a few seconds behind the WR, about 2-3 seconds. But using RWD cars I'm really far behind, like 5 or 6 second. Thats coz the car oversteer insanely at low speeds, I mean it's like there's no grip, specially that FZ50. At least I think I learned to drift somewhat decent thx to that LOL :P But I can't drive clean with a RWD car, except for those formula cars that I feel much more stable (althouth F1 car is quite tricky with throttle but other than that, it wasn't really a problem to control it).

Well maybe it's just that I can't really feel that the car gonna oversteer before it does, since I'm not physically in the car...dunno how to explain, but you know it's just easy to feel it in real life.

Thx
Ale
Don't bother learning the RWD cars now. We will get a patch on friday, that supposedly changes the tyre behaviour quite a lot, so it doesn't make any sense to learn the soon to be outdated tyre model now.
Just keep yourself entertained with the FWD cars and give the physics a fresh start on friday
F1 car eh? It seems you've beaten us to it then.

Also there are lots of percularities with LFS, the low speed grip is certainly a problem in cars like the FZ50, but also the engine braking causes the car to spin when it shouldn't - although using high coast locking on the diff can cure this.
#4 - Vain
My current experience is that the sound and the cockpit-movement are the two most important things when controlling the car.
While progressively putting power down the slipangle of the tyres increases and due to the slipping the tyres begin to make noises. You can practically hear the tyre balance on it's grip-maximum. When you get the right tone it is fairly easy to keep the tyres on the best spot.
The other factor is the movement of the car, which also indicates slip-angles, visualized in cockpitmovements. When the tyres are under heavy load, as in cornering while putting down gas, the slipangle gets pretty big, as you already know from the sound - this translates into the rear end moving into a different direction than the front tyres, which can be seen by the direction of the car heading (as denoted by the cockpit) and th direction the car moves. The first few corners of the second sector of FE Gold, f.e. show this pretty well, in the XRT this effect get's pretty massive (and fun!).

It is most important to know what the tyres are doing. You can't see it, thus you need to concentrate on the things you sense. The car-body, the sound, the FFB. All these influences can be translated into the current state of the tyres, which allows you to go for the absolute maximum the tyres can bear.

I hope this helps.

Vain
#5 - -ale-
Thx for the replies. I seached better the forum and I found some topics about it, I hope this update helps about it.

Yeah the sound is really important when driving, sometimes It's so intuitive that it's hard to notice it's importance. But I still need to sharp my ears a lot :P and also my driving skills. Thanks for the tips, I'm gonna try paying more attention to it.


Quote from Bob Smith :F1 car eh? It seems you've beaten us to it then.

LOL I mean that FO8, sorry :P It's really hard to control, but it has a nice grip. Also thx for the tip, I'll try it in my setup!

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