Speed doesn't kill. Abrupt and sudden stops, that's what gets people - every time
It's true enough though. The speed I reached was done on the M3, in the inside lane! I was following another car and I was speeding up to pass. There were other vehicles hurtling past me like I was stopped in the other two lanes and it was the realisation I was on a tyre I wasn't familiar with that made me ease off again. If I'd slowed down too much, of course, I'd have been a danger to everyone because even 80mph would be holding up the traffic.
I never speed in towns and I frequently drive people behind me crazy because I am strictly holding the speed limit.
But the UK's 70mph limit was brought in during the mid-60s, in a time when car safety equipment, bodywork and - most importantly - brakes were very different to modern standards. Braking distances (as per the Highway Code) are already prehistoric and inaccurate because of new technology.
While a person will still break the same way they did then, a car certainly won't.
Haha, that's something that I can really enjoy, sometimes. Especially if it's a big fat BMW or Audi sticking to my rear bumper with his headlights on in broad daylight, trying to intimidate me into going faster. I just ease off the throttle a bit more, with a smile on my face
I don't have a car anymore, though, so I don't have that "problem" anymore. You're above all that annoying behaviour when you're on a motorcycle, I find.
Not always the case any more, they seem to be letting people off with double the points and double the fine. It just seems to be a way of getting a little extra cash out of you before a ban.
Some speed limits frequently drive me crazy, like the 19mph zones near schools (at night???), but I'm sure I'll be glad they are there when I have kids and want to feel they are safe...
It's not about ruining your personal driving fun, it's about ensuring a general safety and limiting the accidents. Roads are there for transport, not for fun, as much as I hate to admit...
Often when I'm having a bit of fun on an empty road, I have a vision of a kid or a farmer thumping against my windshield and being propelled tens of meters ahead, and I calm myself down. What is that little fun compared to my ruined psychological life?
That's why I go to track days, and have MUCH more fun!
As for the limits on highways, I've noticed they are almost always 20-30 km/h lower than when it starts getting risky. But take in account that they're not there for the people that know how to drive, but for the idiots that have no clue about vehicle dynamics. They won't feel the limit of the car's adherence even if there are big flashing lights telling them to ease off...Some of my friends have no clue what understeer or oversteer is, even if they do speed, so how can you trust them regulating there own speed?
Exactly. This is what everyone assumes and equates to, that driving at a higher rate of speed equates to driving like a dickhead.
I will admit, like just about everyone in the world, I was young and foolish once. We use to race (in our wimpy 120 mph top speed cars) but we also lived in a very rural area with long stretches of empty roads.
I can't tell you the last time I was above 80 mph, my car would probably fall apart at that speed. I did state that I have done 125 mph, but that wasn't in my young and foolish days where I ran around at high speeds often. That was on a country road of open land that you can see for miles and miles. That was at a time where there was no traffic around. That was a time and place where there was no danger of children playing, or people pulling out of the non-existant side roads.
At 125 mph, it takes approximately 1 minute to travel 2 miles. 1 minute is a long time. When you are traveling down a road that has visibility of 3 or 4 miles, that is plenty of time to let go of the throttle and slow down if traffic should happen to appear down at the end. Even if someone would enter the same straight section of road at the end, I have driven over 900,000 miles since I started and I can count on one hand the number of times someone has managed to cross over the center line just slightly. I have never had anyone cross completely over into my lane to where I've had to evade them. Yes, it happens, but the chances of that happening are very slim.
The people who say that speed causes accidents are the same people who say stuff like snow or ice causes accidents. What causes the accidents are not speed, snow, ice, weather in general, talking on cell phones, listening to music, talking with passengers, aliens falling from the sky. What causes accidents are the people's skills that are behind the wheel and you can add mechanical failure to that as well. Snow, ice, weather, whatever does not make your car spin out or not brake or crash. The lack of skills of the driver in not recognizing that you need to brake earlier with less force or leave more room for the conditions is what causes accidents. It is not the speed it's self or the conditions on their own that causes them.
It's a huge pet peeve of mine when I see on the news that snow and ice is at fault for accidents all over the place or that speed is at fault for an accident.
When I was younger I was an ****. I drove like one at times too. See i've always had this talent for drivign a car fast, and worse, I enjoy it.
With age, and a few near death experiences (which in fairness was, on ocassion, because there are other idiots on the roads aswell as myself) I learned to do my speeding on a race track.
I dont think it's my place to say whether i'm a safe driver or not, that's up for other people to say who've been in a car with me at the wheel. My best friend says I am the only person who he is comfortable with as a passenger when going fast (which i've done on 2 ocassions with him over the decades, both emergencies), my sister says I drive like an old woman.
Safe or not, I can say that in recent years I have not driven like an **** and I feel better in myself for knowing that i'm less of a hazard than a significant proportion of the population, and i'd rather brag about that than the fastest speed i've done on the roads - which is, in point of fact, substantially faster than most of the willy waving i've read in this thread.
Don't be an ****. If you love speed, as I do, then do it on the race track.
I'm glad I never killed anyone with my driving back when I was a jerk on the roads, I was lucky to learn from my errors before doing that. I hope some of you will one day be able to look back and think the same.
max 20% more then the limits, we have a very big punishment for speeding, the min is nearly ~75 euro (20.000 forint), the max is ~1000 euro (300.000 forint), and the police is only for to catch the people who speeding(they can't catch the people who robbing, molestating, killing etc., oh and gipsy because of the "racism")...
If you want to drive fast, don't drive Front Wheel Drive.
I've seen so many FWD Fiestas understeer into the metal barriers protecting the pavement at the deathtrap of a roundabout near here, local chavs try to look bad, they turn the wheel and to their horror nothing happens.
At least with oversteer you can get it back in line if you're quick enough and know what to do, but if you enter a corner seriously too fast then you're pretty screwed, even if the back end steps out you're going into the trees on the outisde anyway.
I do hope the only thing I ever end up hitting is the gravel trap, probrably won't be that way though.
i for one would be more afraid of understeer than of oversteer. for me, oversteer seems a bit more controllable. in fact, i consider understeer not really controllable at all.
i absolutely agree with you.
You know what they say: oversteer makes passengers go "Holy $H!T", while understeer does that.. to the driver.
In city traffic people would (or should) never experience over/understeer.. maybe understeer on very rare occasions, that could happen, especially if wet pavement.
Sad thing is.. when once i asked some of my old friends (drivers with some years under the belt) what under/oversteer is.. they were like .
But no, the other dude was correct. Current top speed is about 98mph because of the stupid restrictor. Oh well, only 1 year, 10 months and 2 weeks.
Ehh.. no seriously now, you're a biker yourself and you know figures are aload of BS. I've had about 115mph out of it, in 3rd. I have 6 gears and it was still seriously pulling. My one is given a top speed of 138mph, which is probably a bit conserative.
I (like most people on here) would much much risk spinning on a roundabout rather than plowing straight into another car - especially seeing as I could well be able to catch the car...
I would not, however, like to have oversteer round a tight bend where I was pushing too hard - as i'm likely to spin and more likely to roll rather than just plowing into it with understeer.
However for "most" drivers understeer is safer as no-one on the roads seems to understand basic vehicle dynamics (i.e. my friend who didn't even know what lift-off oversteer was 'till he beat it round a corner, started to understeer, let of the throttle and ended up parked up into a telegraph pole...), and while people who've experience oversteer before might catch it, I can tell you now my Mum would just freeze and spin.