Quote from ajp71 :

Absolute worst thing to do is show the brake lights, many drivers (including myself) will happily hit a car deliberately brake testing them. Just last Friday I did exactly that, I was coming up the outside lane @ 75mph on a 70mph perfectly straight section of dual carriageway, there were two other vehicles around a lorry in the slow lane and a Primera traveling somewhat slower than the speed limit behind said lorry. At the last minute the Primera pulled out without indicating and forced me to brake, speed now down to 57mph according to the satnav (the boss's of course, I stubbornly insist on reading maps ). I then followed about a car length behind the car rather frustrated that it had dangerously pulled out infront of me and now wasn't doing anything to improve the situation by barely driving faster than the lorry. Evidentely the old boy driving it felt he had some kind of right to be as anti-social as possible and decided to brake hard infront of me, and more than testing the brakes speed was down to 44mph according to the GPS, with the slightest tap of his back bumper he instantly found the accelerator passed the lorry and got out the way again.

Whilst I felt it was safe had anything happened it would be your fault for brake testing, simply don't do it, especially when the car behind looks like it is old and solid and wouldn't give two shits about getting physical.

try explaining to an insurance company why you were too close to react to them braking hard. if you rear-end somebody, you are never going to manage to shift blame to the car in front.

This is a story from one my friends,

He told me how this guy would just blast through red lights and jammed traffic without even looking to see if anyone was coming. So my bud asked this person why he does that and his response was along the lines of "Well since I've got such a crappy car, no one is going to want to hit me since they'll definitely have a better car that they won't want to crash into me".

WTF, seriously what the hell is this guy thinking? What if (god forbid) there's another driver around who thinks like that?

Quote from Jakg :

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Stop blanking out your licence plate!!!!!!!!

on topic - I'm sure if you tried harder you could take up more.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Stop blanking out your licence plate!!!!!!!!

on topic - I'm sure if you tried harder you could take up more.

Happy now?

Brb, stealing a Proton and getting that plate printed.

On topic, nice snow.

****er!

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

On topic, nice snow.

What snow? Jakg, could you post higher resolutions of those pictures? I want to see the snow. Muhahahaha :mischievo

Only a Towtruck driver would try to scrape a Noble up a very steep ramp, infront of 100 bikers using pieces of wood!

Quote from DeKo :

try explaining to an insurance company why you were too close to react to them braking hard. if you rear-end somebody, you are never going to manage to shift blame to the car in front.

Its very simple, unless the driver in front can find a very satisfactory reason why they suddenly had to brake sharply on a straight piece of road they are going to be entirely responsible for the vehicle behind failing to stop in time and ending up in the back of them.

Quote from ajp71 :

Its very simple, unless the driver in front can find a very satisfactory reason why they suddenly had to brake sharply on a straight piece of road they are going to be entirely responsible for the vehicle behind failing to stop in time and ending up in the back of them.

Since when was that the case? Even if the person in front brakes as hard as they can deliberately, causing you to pile into the back of them you will still be held at fault. You're supposed to drive with a safe gap between the car in front for a reason so that doesn't happen. Its your fault if you find yourself in that position, one which is easily avoidable by not driving so close.

If they did it deliberately they are not going to say that outright (although I wander if it would change the outcome...), all they have to say is they saw something on the road.

If that's what you really think, you'll be in for a shock if you do actually hit the back of someone... regardless of whether or not they brake test you.

I think Alex is right - If someone infront of you decides to brake (hard) on a perfectly straight piece of road with no reason, then surely it'd be there fault. There would be witnesses and you'd of course ask the all important question - "Did you see any reason why this car would have needed to brake?".

in the end it will be your story against his or her story.
you cannot certainly be sure which is true - so you have to rely on the facts.
if you are the one who rear-ended the other car, you are at fault. simple as that.

Quote from speedway :

Luckily there is a large grey scale between black and white.

Mmmhm, true there.