OK, they pulled it off, how I do not know. A real F1 car, and a very good one at that. The only thing I could think that would be better than this would be a 1982-85 turbo f1. Brabham, Renault, Ferrari and company. Give us the cars that Prost, Villeneuve, Rosberg, Piquet and Senna drove. Now that would be almost unbearable don't you think?:revs::eclipsee_

Is this a serious proposition?

Can't deny I'd love to have one of those. Especially the qualy ones that had like 1200 HP, way too little downforce, and NO driver aids.

...But it might be pushing the envelope a bit too far.

Turn off TC and do some laps. Then add 700bhp (for qualifying) and tell me if 10 people in LFS could cope. The standard of driving (today) is abysmal in the BF1, and it's one of the easiest cars in LFS (though you tend to need one, perhaps two, nooby laps to find out where the grip/speed is). I can't understand how everyone is spinning at every corner all the time...

and I haven't even seen the oval recently, but I guess that's even worse cos the nooby noobs hang out there.

Good point, Tris.

Still, if there's a TweakS2 thingy later on, you could just add the HP to the BMW and test it for yourself... crazy, I tell you. illepall

LFSTweakT will only work on the demo cars, and yes it will be crazy

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Turn off TC and do some laps. Then add 700bhp (for qualifying) and tell me if 10 people in LFS could cope. The standard of driving (today) is abysmal in the BF1, and it's one of the easiest cars in LFS (though you tend to need one, perhaps two, nooby laps to find out where the grip/speed is). I can't understand how everyone is spinning at every corner all the time...

and I haven't even seen the oval recently, but I guess that's even worse cos the nooby noobs hang out there.

i find the trick to going FASTER especially on a mouse is to use some relativly heavy TC in the corners (speed ~6m/s @ ~5%), and when you exit the corner, turn off TC. that will allow you to accelerate like a MADMAN, without TC eating up your power even when you won't spin under full throttle.

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way too little downforce

uh huh ? those were also the days of ground effect cars

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Good point, Tris.

Still, if there's a TweakS2 thingy later on, you could just add the HP to the BMW and test it for yourself... crazy, I tell you. illepall

Go back to patch Q and use Mechanik on the F08 to create this. That would tell you why it couldn't be handled by us unprofessional racers .

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Is this a serious proposition?

yes, give me the ferrari, the brabham, the renault.... I'm not saying I could drive them, but it would be cool to try. For one thing, the driver was pushed way forward. I would like to see what it's like to drive with that viewpoint (very close to the front wheels).

So, yes, make this an official request. Give us ground effects, turbo (unreliable and all) and give us that view!!!!!

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and I haven't even seen the oval recently, but I guess that's even worse cos the nooby noobs hang out there.

I resemble that remark

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It was joke.. Everyone in the US got it, LOL..

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I can't understand how everyone is spinning at every corner all the time...

Yes. When you got TC you dont have any excuse for spinning. Buahhahaa

My brother made these:
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/292689
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/292837

But I never made a decent game to put them in.

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• S: (v) resent (feel bitter or indignant about) "She resents being paid less than her co-workers"

I thought it was the Yanks who didn't get sarcasm ... ?

wow hankstar doesnt get it either lol

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Turn off TC and do some laps. Then add 700bhp (for qualifying) and tell me if 10 people in LFS could cope. The standard of driving (today) is abysmal in the BF1, and it's one of the easiest cars in LFS (though you tend to need one, perhaps two, nooby laps to find out where the grip/speed is). I can't understand how everyone is spinning at every corner all the time...

and I haven't even seen the oval recently, but I guess that's even worse cos the nooby noobs hang out there.

Completely agree, for me the car feels as though its on rails. As long as you take a minimal amount of what you have learnt in LFS , and apply it to the BF1, it really is almost impossible to spin. I think people must be driving the BF1 without actually recognising that LFS's physics still apply.

People have like 3 days something new and they already want something else new ! Be ashamed !

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Wow, Hankstar doesn't get it either, lol

You see, I did get it (trust me, sarcasm is the highest form of wit Down Undah) and was humourously (or not) drawing attention to the fact that colcob didn't seem to get it (the humour lies in the common stereotypical assumption that Brits understand sarcasm [or at least they should] and Yanks don't). But ... I guess you didn't get that I got it lol

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tell me what you think the joke is then

I believe the explanation is in my previous post somewhere. Never mind.

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I can't understand how everyone is spinning at every corner all the time...

for me most of my spins are a combination of not knowing the cornering speeds on the track, the brakes being so incredibly good that when you miss the braking point by a tiny bit you either enter the corner far too fast or much too slow and without enough df and not to forget the old "dirt affects the whole width of the tyre" bug which makes clipping a wheel on the dirt a little at 2-3g cornering forces deadly

btw the bug has got worse not that grass is much more slippery

But the turbo cars used ground effects and slicks which is why Nelson and Gilles were able to corner and change direction so fast. A modern F1 car has very little in common with those older cars so a comparison is difficult I think.

As far as I'm concerned SEV can add as many open wheelers as they like, I'll be happy.

if scawen gets the areo up to the point where it can simulate ground effect cars id like to have a group c too