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Conficker C - It might **** your PC up
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Hmm, No antivirus.. No firewall.. No problem for me..
Quote from AjRose :Hmm, No antivirus.. No firewall.. No problem for me..

Exactly how it should be.. like being in a doctors surgery.

"OMG YOU COULD GET AIDS AND EVERYTHING"....

Then some really old guy is like "HEY PROBABLY NOTHING :-D"
My Windows Update and BITS services are running. So can I assume that my system is still uncorrupted by this thing, then?
Good thing my house is 100% Windows free.
Quote from wheel4hummer :Good thing my house is 100% Windows free.

Hell, it must be dark in there then! That or light bulbs aplenty!
Quote from BBO@BSR :I don't want to insult anyone there but your devs or admins must have done something wrong.
Else everyone / every company would have gotten infected, right?

Computer with a proper password policy and current security updates, antivir/security software and secured shares can't get infected by win32/conficker A, B,C or D.

If you got infected before MS patched the vulnerability and antivir got definition updates, it wouldn't help as the virus disables win and antivir update. And guess what came first...

The problem in our case was weak password policy on the internal network not visible from outside which are only dev/qa machines located in some server room and which frequently get reinstalled and most of which are actually VMs. It was enough that one PC visible from outside got infected, and it got spread. When you have thousands of employees with desktops and laptops, there's a good chance someone will scr*w up.
Quote from AutoPilot : Btw, MS offered $250,000 for info leading to the authors. And this certainly wasn't made by kids.

$250,000? That's pocket money for M$

On-topic: find / *.exe - nothin' found. Can't launch that virus in WINE, must I submit a bug report?
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Quote from wheel4hummer :Good thing my house is 100% Windows free.

I have one windoze-powered PC, but it is not connected to teh interwebz cause wi-fi doesn't works in XP (and it does in ubuntu :jawdrop
Quote from wheel4hummer :Good thing my house is 100% Windows free.

Quote from Shadowww :
I have one windoze-powered PC, but it is not connected to teh interwebz)

I hope this should be fun and you guys know that in relationship to the market share Linux, Mac etc. are not safer than any Win OS.
In this specific case maybe and they also get fewer attacks ok
but in general one of the biggest computer myths is:
""I'm safe because I don't use Windows" etc.

Just an example:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2941
Quote from the link:
"...It’s really simple. Safari on the Mac is easier to exploit. The things that Windows do to make it harder (for an exploit to work), Macs don’t do. Hacking into Macs is so much easier. You don’t have to jump through hoops and deal with all the anti-exploit mitigations you’d find in Windows..."


So in the end it doesn't make a difference what OS you use, if you have not secured your system properly then you can get funny surprises everywhere.
Well, i read online that since this is going on all over the world, even on government computers they (the creators) can sell this virus to criminals and make a profit and end up f*cking everything up. So watch out, if they do start selling this virus to criminals watch what you enter because they will steal everything...
If they can get to the government, maybe they might unless-f**k the economy. Then do they get paid $250,000?
I was under impression that Conficker and it's variants communicate through port 445, so why not just close it if you don't need it for anything else? (Some LAN services use it, afaik)
BBO@BSR, in Linux virus just doesn't haves any rights to modify ANY system file.

Ok, it can make something with documents in your home folder, but nothing more.
Quote from Shadowww : BBO@BSR, in Linux virus just doesn't haves any rights to modify ANY system file.

Ok, it can make something with documents in your home folder, but nothing more.


I won't argue with you.
So you are right (and local root exploits etc. for Linux also doesn't exist ).
Is this thing true?

Where is the file located if its in your system?

I'm running Win7 now.
Quote from BBO@BSR :(and local root exploits etc. for Linux also doesn't exist ).

If you keep your system up to date, they doesn't exist.
I dont believe in that conflicker story anyway
Oh, I believe it's real. There's just one thing that's weird, though. For the moment, the worm is only duplicating itself, and trying to stay on the infected machines. Blocking the use of anti-virus programs, their websites, being as stealthy as possible, copying itself on a network or via USB keys. All that stuff is only helping it spreading and surviving, but it doesn't have very big consequences. I've read somewhere that the worm hasn't actually been 'turned on' yet, meaning that the real consequences, whatever they might be, haven't been seen thus far.
Quote from boosterfire :Oh, I believe it's real. There's just one thing that's weird, though. For the moment, the worm is only duplicating itself, and trying to stay on the infected machines. Blocking the use of anti-virus programs, their websites, being as stealthy as possible, copying itself on a network or via USB keys. All that stuff is only helping it spreading and surviving, but it doesn't have very big consequences. I've read somewhere that the worm hasn't actually been 'turned on' yet, meaning that the real consequences, whatever they might be, haven't been seen thus far.

As the worm allows its creators to remotely install software on infected machines. The consequences can be anything.
I read on the symantec website: "Most likely the worm will be used to create a botnet that will be rented out to criminals who want to send SPAM, steal IDs and direct users to online scams and phishing sites". But they don't really know what will happen.
Quote from BBO@BSR :So in the end it doesn't make a difference what OS you use, if you have not secured your system properly then you can get funny surprises everywhere.

Ok. That's completely irrelevant though. This thread is about Conficker C. Which, omigod, is a windows virus.
Quote from wheel4hummer :Ok. That's completely irrelevant though. This thread is about Conficker C. Which, omigod, is a windows virus.

I wonder how you play LFS if you got no win os?

It was just a general statement.
As I often read things like "I'm safe as I'm windows free" etc.

But you are right it's just a windows virus
(but some people use their mac and boot camp and ... What do I care? )
Quote from BBO@BSR :I wonder how you play LFS if you got no win os?

WinAPI is very well documented.
Quote from BBO@BSR :I wonder how you play LFS if you got no win os?

I actually really don't play LFS anymore. I play it in WINE sometimes, though, which actually can be affected by windows viruses and trojans, but it will only affect things that WINE can access. This is why I really don't like WINE. I only run things in WINE that I am sure are absolutely safe.

Quote from BBO@BSR :It was just a general statement.
As I often read things like "I'm safe as I'm windows free" etc.

Yes, I full know that there are plenty of rootkits for linux. There are also linux viruses. There just happen to be fewer linux viruses out there. But my comment reffered specifically to Conficker C, not all viruses. In fact, it's far easier to infect the Linux kernel then it is windows. If you have to compile the kernel for some reason, that leaves it wide open for lots of vulnerabilities. Like if the server hosting the linux source gets hacked and malicious source code is uploaded somehow. That kind of risk doesn't exist with Windows.
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