Quote from TCStelten :

RTL sucks big time.

I thought I just write it a bit more diplomatic
but your short version says it all

It's often not the race that is boring but the lousy TV Directors/Stations.
And when they show other drivers then the top 2 they make commercial breaks.

All TV channels use the same TV feed. In the previous rounds this season it has been done by FOM. But today it was an Italian TV company and as always the TV coverage in Italy involves a lot of red cars *yawn*

Not true Alex, n2oaddict and I were discussing it live on MSN, and it was obvious he was getting different pictures to us. He lives in Tenerife.

Quote from Madman_CZ :

no its not bad, i personally loved playing on this track in gtr and f1c... but in f1 (real world) its just impossible to overtake on and who really wants to see a race where people just queue up...

the only bit of action at the track was first lap when one of them flipped! thankfully he was ok..

mad

But if we put some GT cars to race on Imola would it be this bad? I don't believe it would. So the main problem is just the way that F1 cars are. Experts always say that almost every track has only 1-2 good passing spots. Before the race on Finnish coverage program Keke Rosberg basicly said that the whole track is piece of crap. Altough he mentioned that before the track changes (pre 1994?) it was better and had one very good passing spot.

sorry if i'm repeating anything but i don't have time to read the whole thread at the moment.

the TSN web page had the wrong time posted so i missed the first 20 laps. but tsn tends to do things like that.

from lap 20 to 62 the camera man was ONLY on schumi or alonso. that was a bit of overkill. there was the odd 5-10 second snippit of a mclaren but i can't recall seeing a williams, torro rosso, red bull, or anyone else UNLESS they were being lapped. that was annoying.

speedfreak227

Very funny to see Renault got fooled by Ferrari, Michael did a fantastic drive, interesting to see it's almost the reverse of last year at the same place. I like this race.

it was great because renault tried to trick ferrari, but then it didn't work ^_^

Quote from JJ72 :

one race that should go down the history book.

totally stunned me for 20 laps.

From what I actually got to see (thanks to CBS - tape delayed and we still miss a quarter of the race to adverts:arge the race wasn't anything special. Certainly the only history books it's going in are those focusing on boring statistics.

The Alonso/Schumacher battle would have seemed more entertaining if there had been even the slightest chance Alonso getting past without Schumacher screwing up. If there's one driver who's unlikely to make a mistake in that situation, it's Schumacher.

Was there any ontrack overtaking, except the first few corners of the first lap?

Deserved podium results for Schuey, Alonso and Montoya. Kimi seemed a little distant this weekend, leaving JPM to lead the McLaren side of things. Massa's general lack of pace (team orders?) and Button's two pit mishaps pretty much took care of the other two capable of challenging for the podium. Fissichella and Barrichello continue to lack the pace of their teammates, although Rubens was also delayed in the pits (from what I gather - CBS missed it).

For me the thing I will remember the most from Imola 2006 is how abysmal the coverage was. CBS truly sucked, with two terrible commentators. Derek Daly is the (very) poor man's Martin Brundle/Steve Matchett without the technical insight or keen eye, but Ralf Sheheen is just about everything I hate about US sports coverage. He's so bad he makes James Allen's overexcited drivel seem great. Sheheen seems to have written down a few key sentences aimed at making himself appear knowledgable on F1, but unfortunately tends to use them at the wrong time. He also had a habit of repeating what Daily had just said 10 seconds before, which wasn't exactly worth hearing the first time. At times he reminded me of Dodgeball, and 'The Ocho' commentators, without the laughs.

I saw half of it before i kept falling asleep. Nothing terribly exciting.

Quote from Hyperactive :

One word: Yawn. Not even one pass attempt in whole race.

lol you should know that racing isnt as easy as you see on tv.. thats an extremely hard track to pass espesh when you have 2 simmilar cars..


montoya (my fav) was stupid..

14laps to go.. 13sec behind pos 1 and 2.. he said he was "cruzing".. and was doing it at the same pace as alonso and schumy who were pushing.. if monty pushed and got 1sec lap quicker which was easily possible, he would have caught up.. may have been held up to, but alonso made 2 mistakes which costed him almost 3sec.. which could have given monty 2nd..meh..

Quote from aoun :

lol you should know that racing isnt as easy as you see on tv.. thats an extremely hard track to pass espesh when you have 2 simmilar cars..


montoya (my fav) was stupid..

14laps to go.. 13sec behind pos 1 and 2.. he said he was "cruzing".. and was doing it at the same pace as alonso and schumy who were pushing.. if monty pushed and got 1sec lap quicker which was easily possible, he would have caught up.. may have been held up to, but alonso made 2 mistakes which costed him almost 3sec.. which could have given monty 2nd..meh..

Well said, at that stage MS intentional backed off his pace, partly because of his tyre problem, partly a tactical maneuver. JPM would seriously stand a chance to challenge for win had he upped his game towards the end. A pity for him, and kinda stupid.

Ferrari says they got the car together. I hope they're right.

This is for those who said there's no overtaking this race

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CHLQ6WF0

Ferrari need to get rid of bridgestone if they want serious contention.

Boring race imo, schumacher's tyres were screwed as he used all his new sets during quals.

Highlights of the race, Albers flip and buttons pit lane massacre

Funny how it was an italian race, with italian director and no car/team radio from ferrari

Quote from wE1l :

Well said, at that stage MS intentional backed off his pace, partly because of his tyre problem, partly a tactical maneuver. JPM would seriously stand a chance to challenge for win had he upped his game towards the end. A pity for him, and kinda stupid.

No way would MS decide to back off and lose over a 10second lead illepall The fact that both Massa and Schumacher were dropping back after the pit stop was enough evidence to prove that there was tyre problems. Probaly due to them using too many sets of tyres during qualifying.

JPM most likely backed out of it to save the engine for the next race, if I remember rightly he has to take this engine to the next GP and bouncing over the Imola kerbs at full atack aint going to help its relability.

Keiran

Quote from aoun :

lol you should know that racing isnt as easy as you see on tv.. thats an extremely hard track to pass espesh when you have 2 simmilar cars..


montoya (my fav) was stupid..

14laps to go.. 13sec behind pos 1 and 2.. he said he was "cruzing".. and was doing it at the same pace as alonso and schumy who were pushing.. if monty pushed and got 1sec lap quicker which was easily possible, he would have caught up.. may have been held up to, but alonso made 2 mistakes which costed him almost 3sec.. which could have given monty 2nd..meh..

If I want to see cars driving fast in line with no passing, I go sitting next to a highway at rushour and watch. And it is even more boring. (Never done that so I just have to imagine )

The race was boring because there wasn't anything to watch. F1 cars going around a circuit may be (and probably is) quite fun to watch IRL, but through TV it looked like watching paint drying.

I am not saying that it didn't take skill to drive an F1 car around that track. I am saying that the track they raced is not proper track for fast F1 cars. It's like oval racing on a nascar on a track that is 100 metres long (no offense at nascar). Like monaco or hungaroring. Mickey-mouse-tracks as Mika Salo once said.

If Imola was considered a good track, the tracks in Bahrain and Turkey would look like Imola. They 100% different for a reason.

Ferrari did use to many sets in quals, well schumacher in particular.

All sets that were put onto his car during pits were already worn.

Quote from keiran :

No way would MS decide to back off and lose over a 10second lead illepall The fact that both Massa and Schumacher were dropping back after the pit stop was enough evidence to prove that there was tyre problems. Probaly due to them using too many sets of tyres during qualifying.

JPM most likely backed out of it to save the engine for the next race, if I remember rightly he has to take this engine to the next GP and bouncing over the Imola kerbs at full atack aint going to help its relability.

Keiran

http://www.formula1.com/race/news/4275/754.html
Q: So what was the key?
Pat Symonds: The really significant thing was that on the free lap after Fernando pitted, Michael showed he had some performance in reserve. On the lap we pitted, he did a lap of 1:25.7 - where his average speed in the ten previous laps, was 1:27.4. The lap-times during the second stint had not suggested he had that performance in reserve.


And please take my advice to always think twice before using this smiley illepall to comment on others' opionions.

Quote from ajp71 :

All TV channels use the same TV feed. In the previous rounds this season it has been done by FOM. But today it was an Italian TV company and as always the TV coverage in Italy involves a lot of red cars *yawn*

yeah i fully agree since it was pretty much only focused on the ppl commin first.. where FOM looks at cars behind the leading group if there is a interesting battle..

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/e ... detail/060510142532.shtml

poor boy, he speak no english, know no one, and suddenly drop into the massive F1 world.