Perhaps if you get right into the nitty gritty details pressure isn't applicable for mechanics, but you're talking a level of semantics if you ask me. I have always and will always use pressure to discuss force over area in fluids and solids. So do the rest of the world. Unless someone can give me a compelling reason to change, I'll stick with my original remark of LOL
Sympathic? Not sure if that's an insult or a compliment, so I'll resort to nodding and smiling
how about just that theres usually a good reason to distinguish 2 variables that mathematically have the same dimension (which i dont know in the case of pressure but im sure there is one)
take watt for example ... W and VA generally are two completely different things in electric engineering
there was no crack [ EDIT ]. proof is dat the thread stayed in kunos forum and nowadays everyone enjoys the whole content free. it was his mistake, and he corrected it, by making freely available what before required a rename and a replay action.
who da [ EDIT ] are u to judge other people actions in realms u obviously dont have a clue.
cracked is your [ EDIT ].
exploited you were when they convinced ya it wouldnt hurt.
understand the difference now, nun?
[ EDIT by Scawen : We have had a lot of reports about this post. No need to use unpleasant language to make your point. ]
Forget for a moment the force the road is exerting on the tyre and instead think for a moment of the wieght (force) of the car acting through the tyre...
Now as the tyre (a standard steel belted radial on the outside of the turning circle which is under the most forces) is in mid corner with 1g of lateral force being applied it would have some roll over, which would would effectively mean that the outer wall of the tyre would be semi vertical and the inner wall of the tyre would be heavily distorted (ballooned).
Now think how the wieght will be transmitted through the tyre onto the raod... it would be through the air in the tyre and to some extent through the sidewalls of the tyre.
So if some of the wieght is transmitted through the sidewalls of the tyre (forgetting for a moment camber angles excetra and assuming the tyres entire contact patch is flat on the road) would the majority be tranfered through the semi vertical sidewall and not as much through the largely distorted inner sidewall?
And also if the sidewalls do transfer a little of the wieght, wouldnt it stand to reason that there would be slightly less wieght transfer through the centre of the tyre?
We are talking wieght transfer here and not tyre adhesion to the road...
So if those assumptions were correct then the display that you discribe in F9 would be not that far from reality With the slicks they have much stiffer side walls so this effect would not be so noticable.
I drive the XFG alot as well and found it handled wierd in the new patch (felt like i was on cross plys), but after working on setups for a few days have now got it to feel quite natural again without resorting to rediculously high or low tyre pressures (I put the initial wierdness down to not being used to feeling tyre deformation and most of the old setups being unsuitable )... whenever there is a major physics update it is going to take some weeks for things to pan out so I wouldnt draw too many conclusions too quickly
Actually there is no reason to ever talk about a "force", because in real physics there is no "force" as such since the existance of space. This imaginary thing "force" always acts upon an area, which results in pressure. That means actually a magnet creates a pressure on a piece of ferromagnetic metal, a stone creates pressure when you throw it at a wall, etc. We just use the term "force" because it is practical to do so. Just like it is practical to speak about a "point" in mathematics.
End of discussion about the preasure-thing.
About the deformation:
The tyrephysics aren't finished yet and Scawen has propably noted some of our remarks. Let's wait for the next patch.
End of discussion about the tyres.
Shall I solve any more of your problems? Worldpeace? End of starvation? Impregnate your wife?
in the attached images you will see basically how tires deform. basically even if sidewalls could theoretically "transimt" a huge amount of the weight of the car, then the outer part of the tire may have an extra load, but the inner part must have a "lift" effect and not the contrary
Thats exactly what I was illustrating which fits with the F9 grey force bars that I get when cornering in say the XF GTi.
In reality though I don't think much is tranfered through the sidewalls but would guess that the shape that the tyre takes on would change how the wieght is transfered through the tyre (via the air in the tyre), which would still lead me to believe that more wieght would be transfered through the outer part (almost regardless of camber angle or tyre pressure) as shows up in the F9 view. But thats well beyond my ability to confirm or deny I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents is all LOL
To me the tyre deformation doesnt seem all that unrealistic I've got a mid size car and I live down a gravel road so my tyres are always dusty and when I take corners aggrssively (on tarmac) you can see the bottom 50% of the sidewalls are nice and black and the top 50% are dusty which means I've been driving partially on the sidewalls and thats no where near the limit
One thing I never understood is why all licensed people should use their licensed account for posting on the forum? I, for one, couldn't care less whether people thought I'm using a crack or not. I actually wish there was a way to hide my license status on the forum.
maybe a thing called "privacy", someone may prefer to not show with his license name (at start i used another nick for that, but then i changed my mind) also because there are some people that watch your hotlaps and ranking to decide if you are entitled to talk
as i said i think the lfs deformation for road tires is a bit too much to me, but the real point is not the amount as much HOW...it seems that as soon as the deformation starts, the contact part of the tire seem to fold innerwise making cornering too weird and innatural
With the slicks they have much stiffer side walls so this effect would not be so noticable.
)... whenever there is a major physics update it is going to take some weeks for things to pan out so I wouldnt draw too many conclusions too quickly 
I just thought I would throw in my 2 cents is all LOL
and thats no where near the limit 
