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Quote from Klutch :Bit more than just a loud muffler mate, its a full system.

My car gets me from A to B also. Just alot faster, and alot more sideways than yours.

My car isn't, and wont ever be set up for super driftzor doridori, i want it to grip good as i'll it'll be mainly set up for hills and track work.

Nothing wrong with having a project weekend fun car as a daily.

where i live you couldnt even leave your parcing lot without getting stopped by the cops because your car is too loud. really cool mate.

and if you think you´re faster with that thing driving in the city then i sadly have to tell you you´re wrong..
I don't like the sound of inline 4s with massive exhausts. If you're running a V6 or V8, fair enough, enhance the sound. But I4s just sound nasty when they're that loud. And small cars with massive exhausts look ridiculous.

Also, isn't a loud muffler sort of defeating the purpose?
Quote from Dajmin :I don't like the sound of inline 4s with massive exhausts. If you're running a V6 or V8, fair enough, enhance the sound. But I4s just sound nasty when they're that loud. And small cars with massive exhausts look ridiculous.

Also, isn't a loud muffler sort of defeating the purpose?

the car klutch has is a RX7 with a rotary engine.
I wasn't talking about that one, just in general. I'm a big fan of RX-7 and I assumed that was the OEM exhaust.
Quote from Nathan_French_14 :That evo that is kicking that car's ass is nice.

Hardly kicking his ass. He was only just pulling away from us (Keeping in mind he was infront from the start anyway)

We had 3 people in the car, evo only had 1, would have been a different outcome otherwise.



And yes, its a rotary engine people, they're tend to be NATURALLY loud, no ammount of mufflers will shut it up without causing major restriction.
So you have a straight exhaust?
Isn't that acutally bad as you don't have any counterpressure? Mine only has it's catalysator and enddamper removed and it sounds pretty cool.

I want a RX-7 FC Turbo II as a daily myself
Quote from Klutch :Hardly kicking his ass. He was only just pulling away from us (Keeping in mind he was infront from the start anyway)

We had 3 people in the car, evo only had 1, would have been a different outcome otherwise.

Frankly, making excuse's like that is pathetic. And having something like an evo beat you is humiliating for such a car as yours, as evo's have no torque when off boost, unlike the car your in on the video. Evo was also shifting better and was pulling away at a fairly decent pace for such a car.

Face it, an evo raped your ass, then handed it back to you.
Aha, as we are on engine sounds, i will add this one > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70vQUNZ_0wQ&fmt=18

Not my car, but i have this exact same system which sounds pretty much identical to this.

I would put a vid up of my car but being surrounded by houses and other flats, i doubt the neighbours would appreciate an already noisy car being revved repeatedly!
Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Frankly, making excuse's like that is pathetic. And having something like an evo beat you is humiliating for such a car as yours, as evo's have no torque when off boost, unlike the car your in on the video. Evo was also shifting better and was pulling away at a fairly decent pace for such a car.

Face it, an evo raped your ass, then handed it back to you.

Wasn't my car mate.

And my car is a 12a N\A, wouldn't even stand a chance against an evo.
You know absolutely nothing, Rotaries have ZERO torque at low rev's, They're notorious for it!

The evo was giving it all, and it was on full boost the whole time.
The car i was filming in was an R32, GTS-T with RB20det and a Rb25 turbo

The fact that a R32 with 3 people in the car kept up with an Evo is a fairly good feat, even if it was a roll-on.

Also, how can you tell the evo shifted better? **** me, you're as bad as the idiots on youtube.
First of all, i was'nt talking about the shitty RX7 you posted. Im talking about the evo.

Your still using having people in your car an excuse. Pathetic.
And i can tell the evo is shifting faster, because you can hear it. The guy driving the skyline shifts like someone with a elephant foot.

Oh, and street racing is bad m'kay?
dude...theres an extra, what? 250kg in the car with 3 people.

That is ALOT of weight.

And any decent car with a little bit of power will chirp in between changes

the guy in the vid goes to many track days, he knows his car and he knows how to drive.
Nathan, do you have paypal? I think a lot of people would love to donate you some money so you could go buy a clue.

First you say shifting "better" now you say shifting "faster". What next?

Btw, wasn't
Quote from Klutch :dude...theres an extra, what? 250kg in the car with 3 people.

so each of you weights 125kg? i think you should use the car less and drive pushbikes more regularly
Oh man, someone needs to go back to school.
Quote from Bawbag :Nathan, do you have paypal? I think a lot of people would love to donate you some money so you could go buy a clue.

this imo

Evo8 vs a R32 GTS-T (non-GTR R32's arent fast without some work) and he still keeps up with it pretty good

also i wouldnt want to shift to fast with a shitty RB20 gearbox to, seen so many of them getting killed lol
Quote from Klutch :Bit more than just a loud muffler mate, its a full system.

A "full system"?

Funny thing is, my old beater Altima, the muffler separated from the pipe and now sounds just like that. Could have saved yourself a bunch of money. My Altima sounds just as crappy as that video.

Best thing to do to a small engine is, keep a good quiet exhaust on it. They sound like garbage if not, just as both videos posted do. Same crap sound as my Altima with the separated muffler, and just as much performance boost also, which is none....
Quote from Shotglass :so each of you weights 125kg? i think you should use the car less and drive pushbikes more regularly

Way to fail at math.

125 x2 = 250

Theres THREE of us in the car you dropkick.
Quote from mrodgers :A "full system"?

Funny thing is, my old beater Altima, the muffler separated from the pipe and now sounds just like that. Could have saved yourself a bunch of money. My Altima sounds just as crappy as that video.

Best thing to do to a small engine is, keep a good quiet exhaust on it. They sound like garbage if not, just as both videos posted do. Same crap sound as my Altima with the separated muffler, and just as much performance boost also, which is none....

I didn't do it for the sound
Quote from Klutch :Hardly kicking his ass. He was only just pulling away from us (Keeping in mind he was infront from the start anyway)

We had 3 people in the car, evo only had 1, would have been a different outcome otherwise.



And yes, its a rotary engine people, they're tend to be NATURALLY loud, no ammount of mufflers will shut it up without causing major restriction.

all engines are loud.

rotarys are quieter then most any other car ive had or heard in my life ( unless your driving the beans out of it. As you do every day. )


Quote from Scrabby :So you have a straight exhaust?
Isn't that acutally bad as you don't have any counterpressure? Mine only has it's catalysator and enddamper removed and it sounds pretty cool.

I want a RX-7 FC Turbo II as a daily myself

FD single turbo engine in a Good - never welded FC shell is your best friend.

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Frankly, making excuse's like that is pathetic. And having something like an evo beat you is humiliating for such a car as yours, as evo's have no torque when off boost, unlike the car your in on the video. Evo was also shifting better and was pulling away at a fairly decent pace for such a car.

Face it, an evo raped your ass, then handed it back to you.

the evo didn't sound as though it was running to well. thats just my ears - Speak up im blind.

Quote from danthebangerboy :Aha, as we are on engine sounds, i will add this one > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70vQUNZ_0wQ&fmt=18

Not my car, but i have this exact same system which sounds pretty much identical to this.

I would put a vid up of my car but being surrounded by houses and other flats, i doubt the neighbours would appreciate an already noisy car being revved repeatedly!

KING OF ZEEE CHAVS BRAP BRAP innit innit ... Lol.

Quote from Klutch :Wasn't my car mate.

And my car is a 12a N\A, wouldn't even stand a chance against an evo.
You know absolutely nothing, Rotarys have ZERO torque at low rev's, They're notorious for it!

The evo was giving it all, and it was on full boost the whole time.
The car i was filming in was an R32, GTS-T with RB20det and a Rb25 turbo

The fact that a R32 with 3 people in the car kept up with an Evo is a fairly good feat, even if it was a roll-on.

Also, how can you tell the evo shifted better? **** me, you're as bad as the idiots on youtube.

rotary is useless at low rpm we all know that, but Whats the rolling speed ?

skyline doesn't have a hope in hell, the evo has a traction and weight advantage

Lancer is a stupidly easy car to drive... Trust me, from 1.3 right upto evos... they've a nice clutch in them.

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :First of all, i was'nt talking about the shitty RX7 you posted. Im talking about the evo.

Your still using having people in your car an excuse. Pathetic.
And i can tell the evo is shifting faster, because you can hear it. The guy driving the skyline shifts like someone with a elephant foot.

Oh, and street racing is bad m'kay?

yes i wouldn't pish on his rx-7 if it was on fire and jessica alba was trapped inside.

Street racing is naughty.


Quote from Klutch :dude...theres an extra, what? 250kg in the car with 3 people.

That is ALOT of weight.

And any decent car with a little bit of power will chirp in between changes

the guy in the vid goes to many track days, he knows his car and he knows how to drive.

eh... 3 by 250... Lol.

and yes you Could cherp him BUT and heres the kicker... the skyline just couldn't, if you cant get it right first time - dont bother again.

the skylines a straight six turbo, the evos a inline 4 turbo.. skyline is heavier, but still, the torque should of given you an advantage ( if the evo missed a shift you'd win straight out )

But it sadly didn't happen.

Quote from masternick :this imo

Evo8 vs a R32 GTS-T (non-GTR R32's arent fast without some work) and he still keeps up with it pretty good

also i wouldnt want to shift to fast with a shitty RB20 gearbox to, seen so many of them getting killed lol

your 110 % correct.

Quote from mrodgers :A "full system"?

Funny thing is, my old beater Altima, the muffler separated from the pipe and now sounds just like that. Could have saved yourself a bunch of money. My Altima sounds just as crappy as that video.

Best thing to do to a small engine is, keep a good quiet exhaust on it. They sound like garbage if not, just as both videos posted do. Same crap sound as my Altima with the separated muffler, and just as much performance boost also, which is none....

best thing to do is make it as light as possible so your handling is great, shorten the gears and get a better engine ( no replacement for displacement ) and take cars when they corner.... like ALL f*cking drivers do on a track... or if d/r same rules apply, with even shorter gears.

Sorry for the wall of text - ran out of pronz.
Quote from Klutch :Way to fail at math.

125 x2 = 250

Theres THREE of us in the car you dropkick.

Quote from Klutch :dude...theres an extra, what? 250kg in the car with 3 people.

extra as in more than the weight of the one guy in the evo
so thats 250kg for 2 people

now go buy a pushbike and learn how to install bumpers properly
with zipties that is, right?
Quote from theirishnoob :

the skylines a straight six turbo, the evos a inline 4 turbo.. skyline is heavier, but still, the torque should of given you an advantage ( if the evo missed a shift you'd win straight out )

But it sadly didn't happen.


RB20's are pretty gutless compared to the 4G63 from Evo's, evo would make more torque
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