E : Before my edit were a few sentances complaining about my poor abilities at behaving well on a public server(contacts, etc), but I just wrote that crap because I was frustrated as I was involved in a few incidents(finally after I thought of that again I think I really created only less of 50% of them) in this server. I feel very sorry for that, I don't like to spam the forum to say random things, I just reacted, and next time I will think more before creating a new thread.
Please, if you read this and are a mod, feel free to close/delete it.
But why? This is "just" public racing, positions don't matter at all. You just want to have some fun without the pressure of being in a league race, don't you? Just enjoy the race and don't look at the position.
If you approach the race on the basis that you are there to provide quality opposition to the other drivers and have some good quality wheel to wheel racing then you can forget about the finishing position.
For me the reward I get from finishing a race without incident in say 5th far outweighs the reward I get from finishing a race in 1st if I did it by making a dodgy pass on someone and spinning them out, causing mayhem behind and leaving me free to drive to the finish without pressure of a car behind.
I used to think about my stating position for the next race as well when I was more active on ctra r3. The trick was to keep myself in the lead pack, and if I didn't get an opportunity I would then take it in the next one...
Of cource, lots of times some naab laek Jackson came along and crashed me at some point.
+1 a good battle is a good battle no matter what position you're battling for, and for a battle to be a good one drivers have to respect each others.
BTW Greybull, last time I remember seeing you racing you went out because of some contact I think, reentered the track without checking the traffic beforehand, and cut across about half the track forcing another guy to swerve trying to avoid you, so he sent another car out. And that was a league race
I find there is plenty of opertunity for good, close, clean and fair racing on public servers, there will always be an element of chance that some random opponant will close the door late, or run wide into another car, all too often this results in a barrage of abuse in the chat
I always try to remember that everyone has to start somewhere, and only by racing with real people of different experiance/skill levels can help many a driver deal with situations that the AI just can't give.
As GF has mentioned its all about your attitude, if everyone who joines brings the same respect for others as most of the people I meet in LFS public servers, good racing will follow
Demo Servers are not the same as S2 servers in this respect, shame we cannot filter them out..
Yeah but some people have their heads so firmly up their arses that no amount of experience will ever make them improve.
The worst are people that sit in the middle of the track at 40mph and take out the leading three cars, then are completely bewildered when you tell them to not breed.
They make you want to physically punch them in the face in a vain attempt to get the message into their skulls.
Oh well... I remember of that, yes... IMA TBO Challenge, Round 1, Race 1, end of lap 3, right? Well... What to say? I locked my tyres at the chicane, and then I slided badly. I hadn't a precise control of the car at this momment, so I just tried to keep it going, and unfortunately the guys behind me couldn't avoid me properly, but well... I'm not Chuck Norris so I couldn't fly to let this guy pass and then recover without problem... Of course we have shift+s, but it's clearly difficult to tell if the situation you could create some mey-hem if you keep it doing. And(this is not an excuse, okay:schwitz, I was ill during this race so it was pretty diffucult for me to be concentrated enough, of course, yes, you'll tell me that then I shouldn't have raced in that case, but if you keep reacting like that you can already stay in your bed eating chips for the rest of your life.
So, yes, I'm sorry. That's all. This was a mistake, I felt stupid when I did it, and I still feel stupid when I think of it. I also apologised on the post-race discussion thread :
Maybe I should have been clearer, and describe a little bit more the incident, but oh well... I hadn't much time to do so, as I wrote this before going to school. But, trust me, I'm a clean racer, and I think it's a bit harsh to judge someone from a single incident.
Also, sorry for creating this thread, I have to recognise that this is pure bullshit, and I just wrote this because I was pretty much frustrated from the few races I spent on FMs FOX server. Yes, I shouldn't have done that, but now it's done and I can't remove it, so well... Let's see if it brings some constructive discussion... if not... I hope it'll just die quickly instead of being a place where you can flame randoms servers/competitors.
But nethertheless, please don't judge me from the things that are written here, no, I'm not a noob, I have more than 60.000km online, had more than 1.100 races on CTRA(with a yellow flag ratio of 13% when it closed), and I'm not hitting anyone stupidly when I'm racing, I just had a few incidents this morning, but I suppose I just have to take the things less seriously or just go outside and do something else...
Also, Joe, I don't know why you are complaining about the standards of league racing. They are generally pretty good to say the truth, of course it depends on where you race, but from what I've seen since I'm here, it seems that you just compare public racing and league racing. But, well... I think it depends a lot on the place you race.
Yan i think thats not your problem. Its public racing, almost everyone are relaxed and you can be clean 100% but if there is noob who dont wants to be pased and dont give enough space and ect so you have a crash, i think FOX handling is to hard that there will be posible to race in public. UF1 or STD's are good you can have some close battle and no big crashes or somthing.
I remember you from my time on CTRA R1 and I don't remember ever having problems with you. You were always a good driver who I could race closely with having to worry if you were going to punt me off or something. Maybe your behaviour has changed recently? Maybe you just need a break from LFS
1) Not really. Maybe I leave less room during tight passes, that's all.
2) Maybe. But a)I don't want to, and b)I couldn't stay away from it more than 2 days.
I think I should just stay away from the public servers for a while.
Not judging you, everybody makes mistakes It's just something I remembered because you were talking about risks you shouldn't really be taking but that you take anyway. In your OP you said it was the short length in a pickup race (where you have to seize every chance) to push you to do so, and I pointed out you made the same mistake on a league race (I don't remember which one)
I think it's more your competitive drive that makes you try something in a way you know already you should have done in another, just like it may be trying to outbrake a competitor and messing it up entirely.
On a sidenote, recently I've been driving on LR Race Center and people are quite well behaved. But maybe that's just because it seems VoiD is always online watching everybody closely and with a loaded rifle at hand no matter what, it works
