nope theres no schedule or at least no publicly available one
but while the sounds may not be as nice to listen to as the ones in rf or gtr the advantage to them is that you can hear when to shift

The whole point of a demo is a taster of what the software has to offer :/ not to represent the whole content of the game.

If I went down to my local garage and was interested in buying a car, the most there going to let me do is drive it for a few mins. They aren't going to say here, have it for a few months to see if your happy with it.

Theres a element of risk in everything you buy, you may buy a book and not like it by the end. It's the same here, you may buy LFS and for some weird reason not like it because of the sound :/ which at the end of the day the demo does its job in letting you know what it roughly sounds like.

Keiran

Quote from Live For Kill :

well, i think its really true, that the demo consist more then other demos. but if someone like the demo, that will surely buy the game (shut up! i need at least 4 more years for it!) but who isnt satisfied with it, that wont buy the full game. anyway, You bought that licences to your friends? if its true, then you are real rich...

I bought someone I never knew an S2 license, and I'm not rich.
Stop complaining and get a job, or learn budgeting.

In my case, I'd played a lot of racing games (all the way back to cheesy IMB-compatible Amstrad F1 games in VGA), and never really got into sim racing, even GPL was just too unreal for me.
I tried the XFG on the Blackwood autocross, and already knew the physics were just great, like the rest of the game - interface, netcode etc, and knew it wasn't just a hunch after doing a few races and training tests in the XRT.

Quote from SKurjz :

$48 bucks plus currency conversions etc yes (of which I have to pay 2)

That's 48 canadian. What currency conversions do you have to pay for?

Its actually over $50... as I just found out, plus Paypal + Amex is going to charge me a conversion to USD, and then to convert to GBP

You have no credit card?

What do you think Amex is.... unfortunately LFS does not accept the only CC I have.

Quote from vicvega :

New car in demo would be nice

erm, why? if you want a few more cars, get S1 or S2...

Quote from vicvega :

New car in demo would be nice

there is absolutely no way there will be 4 cars in the demo, if anything at all, i promise you the devs will just replace one of the cars with something else..

and with my way, you would have a slow fwd car, a somewhat fast rwd car, and an open wheeler.. its an all-round demo

for the formula ford!

I did a thread about this some months ago... I think the demo sucks. It's probably better than 90% of the other games' demos but it doesn't mean it couldn't be better. In car choice wise it represents S1 - the same 3 cars have been there since the beginning of LFS.

Now that the low speed grip is almost fixed giving a slick car for demo is not that important anymore though. But I would still rearrange the cars in the demo. No point having XRT and XRG, basicly the same car with very little difference especially for demo users. FOX or UFR or some else faster slicks car would show demo players completely different side of LFS. I didn't even consider buying LFS until I drooled some GTR car pics from the front page. Same thing with Blackwood, maybe it's just me but it doesn't appeal to me.

Demo needs to have a good "first impression" factor. The LFS demo doesn't have that currently. When you first time played the demo, did the arcadish looking menus give you a feeling that you're playing a hardcore simulation? (I like the menu system very much, too bad that the default button colours and backgrounds look so unprofessional.)

And after you've though the menus you'll start a online game with 10 other n00bs with colourish pinky cars (no skin support in the demo ) and in T1 you've got a major crash. Do you still think you're playing a hardcore simulation? My point is just that LFS needs some more playing than 15 mins - which in this point most of the players have already uninstalled the demo - and because of that the demo should be more appealing.

Quote from andy_bonjon :

If the demo wasnt good enough as it is, why would so many people have bought the game already??

Why so many people have not bought it?

Quote from ajp71 :

The demo is total bullshit IMO. Having online play in the demo is a huge mistake IMO because it is unregulated. I think either the demo should be IP only or a system should be put in place to only allow servers with a registered admin. Both these would cut the amount of demo racing but still allow enough for people to evaluate it.

Definately there's no point removing online or restricting it in anyway. What's the f*cking point showing an online racing game withount online? ajp71 really seems to think like Kunos too...

Arcadish menu? Many people say that and I dont just get it. Didnt think it was arcade when I tried the demo early 2004...oh wait, what was the S1 menu like, cant remember! Alteast it works, you can change things when playing . Having poor or great looking menu doesnt make anything look more real or arcade and it shouldnt be the thing which makes people buy LFS!

As I said I like the menu system but it doesn't look good. Little improvements (changing button colours and backgrounds to something better looking) would make a huge difference.

LFS's menu is the only one I know where I can change any option I want - while driving.

Quote from deggis :

Little improvements (changing button colours and backgrounds to something better looking) would make a huge difference.

So why don't you just try to make them better looking? The backgrounds are simple jpgs and the colors can be edited as well.


Edit: Back to topic. I think that the Formula XR should be added to the demo to represent one of the formula cars. So the car choice would be GTI, GT Turbo, Formula XR.

Anyone else go the demo servers and spectate? You know, for a good laugh?

I had the demo one week and then bought S2. A few months later I visited an online race where there was, no shit, a wrecker TEAM. Last time I ever race on the demo.

Everything is great about the demo, but I think it should be limited to 45-60 days.

I think online play should be limited to registered users as well in the demo. There are just too many wreckers around.

Someone who doesn't want to register won't buy S2 as well, that's my opinion.

Quote from SKurjz :

Oh notice you are from S****horpe! (spent 10 yrs in Barton not far from there)

Heh, want to trade places? I'd much rather live in Canada
Though I'd be happy in Barton right now. I hate this town.

Quote from keiran :

If I went down to my local garage and was interested in buying a car, the most there going to let me do is drive it for a few mins. They aren't going to say here, have it for a few months to see if your happy with it.

Not seen the Vauxhall advert yet then. Well it's only three days, but none the less.

Quote from GP4Flo :

So why don't you just try to make them better looking? The backgrounds are simple jpgs and the colors can be edited as well.

I'm actually using custom backgrounds and colours (made by Huru-aito: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=3080#post3080). But I don't have magical skills to change the defaults that come with the game....

I suggested FOX previously but actually FO8 would be the best choice from the formula cars to be added to the demo (with adding I mean removing XRG or XRT). Now that we have BF1 it's pretty much useless in the full version.

Quote from deggis :

I suggested FOX previously but actually FO8 would be the best choice from the formula cars to be added to the demo (with adding I mean removing XRG or XRT). Now that we have BF1 it's pretty much useless in the full version.

great so they have the second most interesting car

I always thought a faster car in the demo would sell more copies of LFS, but who knows, maybe that would just make those people content to just play the demo forever?

Quote from deggis :

I'm actually using custom backgrounds and colours (made by Huru-aito: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=3080#post3080). But I don't have magical skills to change the defaults that come with the game....

I suggested FOX previously but actually FO8 would be the best choice from the formula cars to be added to the demo (with adding I mean removing XRG or XRT). Now that we have BF1 it's pretty much useless in the full version.

I find the one ORION made is damn sexy. I use it on every copy of LFS I have.

Quote from Mike Bennett :

Are we going to see some RL tracks modelled in the future?

No.

On the other hand if someone had asked same question about the BMW-Sauber F1 two weeks ago, I would have laughed...

Quote from Mike Bennett :

Well as a guy who just got the demo, I can say I'm really interested but not quite ready to buy just yet.
I'm VERY impressed with it overall but my sticking in point is how the cars feel to me. I really like the feel of the FWD car, I can 'buy it', but the RWD (whatever they're called) cars are a bit too much like driving a drift car. I mean, if it's supposed to sim a drift car that's all well and good, but I'm worried that a RWD open wheel car with some downforce is going to feel similar...which it shouldn't.
I'd like a bit more info on what ot expect in the future too. Tracks especially. Are we going to see some RL tracks modelled in the future?

Yeah that is the problem I see- the RWD cars without down-force still feel messed up to me. No matter what you do to the setup they drift all over the place quite unrealistically.

Even the ones with down force USED TO do that, but after the latest major patch the down-force cars feel much better. Putting the XR_GTR (or whatever the thing is called) would show off the game better.

Quote from Mike Bennett :

Well as a guy who just got the demo, I can say I'm really interested but not quite ready to buy just yet.
I'm VERY impressed with it overall but my sticking in point is how the cars feel to me. I really like the feel of the FWD car, I can 'buy it', but the RWD (whatever they're called) cars are a bit too much like driving a drift car. I mean, if it's supposed to sim a drift car that's all well and good, but I'm worried that a RWD open wheel car with some downforce is going to feel similar...which it shouldn't.
I'd like a bit more info on what ot expect in the future too. Tracks especially. Are we going to see some RL tracks modelled in the future?

Hey Mike,

Well I took the plunge today, I've only driven the smallest open wheeled formula style car and I'll say they don't feel like drift cars for sure. As for the tin lids.... I just cut the rear ARB in half and things feel quite abit better. I have driven a few of the other cars as well, not sure I would rate the game as 'exciting' as GTL, but fun in its own right.

Quote from P5YcHoM4N :

I find the one ORION made is damn sexy. I use it on every copy of LFS I have.

ooooo, i have seen his ps pics and they are amazing, where could i get hold of these backgrounds>?

I will join to that group of people who think that LFS demo if OK already. I was a demo racer for ALMOST A YEAR before I have bought a license. Do you kow what? I wasnt bored by XRT + BW GP combination. I spent hours practising offline and our telephone account grew up really quick when I was getting some online skills. If the LFS demo was restricted, I wouldnt get the license because I wouldnt have enough time to discern how good it is.

This is just another description of the demo >> license way. Just for illustration what some people needs to decide to buy something......

Got an email from the devs, saying no sound updates until likely S3