I've even seen it go so far as for somebody to write something on facebook like this:

"heya happiii biirfdaii luv u loadz xXxXxXxXxXx"

drives me up the bloody wall

Ahh.. you have Jakg on facebook too, eh?

Quote from tristancliffe :

That is why I write coherently, obeying the rules (to the best of my ability) of the language I am writing in. Anything less just decreases its ability to communicate.

yeah, because not putting an upper case at the start of a sentence makes the bloody thing unreadable.

Quote from tristancliffe :

You NEVER need to visit a website for GCSE or A-Level.

Try telling that to the Wikipedia generation..

Aye as a lad we got all our knowledge from books or from people that passed it on directly (ie teachers). Usefull as an information source as the internet can be, it shouldn't be relied upon for it's accuracy IMO. Unless that is you have enough knowledge in the first place to know which sites/organisations are/aren't to be trusted.

I actually laughed watching the news a while back when they reported that kids parents were complaining about the low marks their cherished ones got, stating they had done all their research on the internet, only to be told that no actually they just didn't get that many answers correct and the sites they had used weren't trusted sources of information.

Put another way.. there's a lot of shit on the internet.

Quote from oli17 :

there's another phrase "if u don't laugh, u cry", i think that applies here. the fact that people can get so worked up over something as meaningless as punctuation is frankly amusing. your example - presumably ment to exaggerage the point - was absolutely fine by me, i had no trouble reading it. calling it common courtesey is just stupid. as long as u can read and have a basic grasp of the english language, it should be no trouble. calling people uneducated for using it and then giving the impression u can't understand it is a complete contradiction.

Punctuation meaningless? I'll tell you what's meaningless about punctuation. A sentence is meaningless without it. Punctuation serves a purpose of increasing both the accuracy and subtlety of communication. Every form of communication requires common rules understood by all parties in order for that communication to be interpreted accurately and therefore make the communication worth while. Without punctuation written language becomes a garbled mess that is open to misinterpretation.

So go ahead and ignore punctuation if you like. Just be prepared to be misunderstood.

Quote from dadge :

i don't think common courtesy has anything to do with it. the fact that you are communicating is effort enough in my books.

what's the difference in me typing something like "He went to the shops when I asked him." or "he went to the shops when i asked him." when the point being made is exactly the same?

So you don't understand the difference between

"He went to the shops when I asked him"

and

"He went to the shops, when I asked him"

then??

Take a wee braw trip tae B&Q for your Garden tool questions.

Understand that??

Quote from gezmoor :

So you don't understand the difference between

"He went to the shops when I asked him"

and

"He went to the shops, when I asked him"

then??

that's not what i wrote. and putting a comma after the word "shops" was not the point i tried to make. try to keep up at the back.

Quote from gezmoor :

So you don't understand the difference between

"He went to the shops when I asked him"

and

"He went to the shops, when I asked him"

then??

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Grammar lesson of the day: "A comma is all the difference between helping your uncle jack off a horse and helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse."

the thing is, if a comma was needed then i'd put it, but if it made no difference i wouldn't. there's a poster in english: "a woman without her man is nothing". let's see where you'd put the comma in there

Quote from oli17 :

the thing is, if a comma was needed then i'd put it, but if it made no difference i wouldn't. there's a poster in english: "a woman without her man is nothing". let's see where you'd put the comma in there

You wouldn't put a comma in there, would you? I wouldn't!

will tell you some of the variants when i'm ready

Quote from oli17 :

will tell you some of the variants when i'm ready

Ahhhh I understand now. Took a while, but it eventually entered my brain.

shhh its a secret! btw wish me luck for my chemistry GCSE tomorrow!

I don't we need much help though

"A woman, without her man, is nothing"
"A woman, without her man is nothing" (personally I think this would be a misuse of a comma, and a semicolon would be more appropriate)

Some people are too ignorant of language to understand why punctuation, airs and graces, capitals and flow are critical to understanding. If they remain happy to be considered as eejits then that's no skin off my back

Quote from tristancliffe :

"A woman, without her man is nothing" (personally I think this would be a misuse of a comma, and a semicolon would be more appropriate)

I'd put a full colon in there, if I was me. But without a colon or a comma would be preferable.

Quote from tristancliffe :

If they remain happy to be considered as eejits (by me)then that's no skin off my back

had to fix that for you. why should anybody give a toss what you think of them?
done any illegal road racing lately?

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

I'd put a full colon in there, if I was me. But without a colon or a comma would be preferable.

I'd use a dash or an exclamation point.

A woman! Without her man! Is nothing!
A woman -- without her man -- is nothing.

It makes sense. (and combine those -- into a long dash... I can't find the key that make a dash in windows. OSX it'd be option+<hyphen>)

Quote from dadge :

done any illegal road racing lately?

No. I don't think I've EVER done any 'illegal road racing'.

You clearly do care that I think you are a brainless oaf, otherwise you wouldn't be responding to my comments about language usage giving that impression...

another judgement based on a single observation. so, it's ok for you to post in a forum but when i respond it's because i care? grow up you muppet. this is not your forum and you cannot control who posts when and where.

so, you've never raced and beaten a subaru impreza in your mazda? you must of been chatting out of your arse again.
if you don't like how a type, stick me on your ignore list, i'm sure it'll affect my sleeping habits.

You are responding to criticism that you claim not to care about by throwing insults back and becoming notably hot under the collar. I'm not telling you not to post, or where, and neither am I attempting to control or own the forum. I'm just saying it's obvious you do care.

I certainly did. And a Boxster (well, that was more of a draw). But it wasn't 'illegal road racing'.

Why would I want to ignore you because you type like a 4 year old? You may have interesting things to say, once your meaning has been interpreted and your language translated into English.

so when was racing on a country road legal?
and again, you must be getting mixed up in your fictional translation. i couldn't give a shit what you think of me because as i have said many times. your opinion no matter how wrong it is, doesn't affect me in my day to day life in any way shape or form. so why would it bother me? because you said so?
and i'm throwing insults at you? who was it claimed a chincholla was more intelegent than me?
who called me a brainless oaf?
who called me an eejit?
who called me a 4year old?
you really shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.

all i did was call you a muppet and ask you if you really could fit 8 inches of delicious sillyness into your mouth without choking. so when it comes to insults i think you're in the lead.......idiot (that's about 5-3 to you bud).

God damn.

This is one of most boring arguments/discussion I've seen, and one of the longest, it's been rolling on for days!

You're both a pair of cocks, equally stubborn and obviously care, which is relative on a forum anyway.

Enough with the bitchy grammar lessons!

that's right up tristians street. boring and argumentative.

Quote from dadge :

so when was racing on a country road legal?
and again, you must be getting mixed up in your fictional translation. i couldn't give a shit what you think of me because as i have said many times. your opinion no matter how wrong it is, doesn't affect me in my day to day life in any way shape or form. so why would it bother me? because you said so?
and i'm throwing insults at you? who was it claimed a chincholla was more intelegent than me?
who called me a brainless oaf?
who called me an eejit?
who called me a 4year old?
you really shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.

all i did was call you a muppet and ask you if you really could fit 8 inches of delicious sillyness into your mouth without choking. so when it comes to insults i think you're in the lead.......idiot (that's about 5-3 to you bud).

I didn't say I hadn't insulted you (although I don't think they were insults, but accurate descriptions). You, however, sunk to my level despite claiming you don't care, thus simultaneously proving you do care. That is all