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Quote from BSantos :
I was seeing the replays more closely and do not understand how two people leave the car running away in a straight line.


Blackout, What happened there? (lap 2, t1, second race)


Well I don't know really. It was the strangest thing. It might been I pulled out of the split stream with too quick move. All I remember was that suddenly the car steered very heavily to the left. I guess I over corrected and it went to the right out of control. When it started to slide my first thought was the tires so I guess I tried to stop the slide and preserve my tires and not just stop the car. But It really got me off guard, don't know if the heavier car had anything to do with it. Must have been the most terrible mistake I've ever done.

Sorry for everyone I hit there. Was a rubbish race onwards from that, as you can see I had to pit twice, it was just plain terrible.

Race 1 was good for me, well, apart from those flying cars that hit me off the track. But climbed few positions after that, so it wasn't that bad compared to the second race.
I think before that accident you saw me rolled in the turner
Sorry i didnt show up to race my internet was down yesterday.
me too ^^, wasn't at home this weekend.
Quote from Dru :taking into perspective....... we had over 40 sign-ups and 40 people in the first pre-quali

to get now 50% of that is a joke.....


.....what you have mate in your famous words is a 'epil fail' but I can not comment on that mate because I have no understanding of that series and it is not my place to comment on a series that I have no understanding or involvement..

I still win with 14.2857 %, but I see where you're coming from and it is annoying when people don't bother to turn up, or don't at least inform the league organisers.

We do have an epic fail on our hands, which is why we are perhaps going to use the scrappage scheme to trade it in for a nice new shiny league with quite a discount, following further enquiries.
Quote from Dru :What was it today? 21 people? thats a joke, particulalry when then people have no respect in T1 and take out half the grid (ok, 4/5 cars is not half the grid - but you know what I mean)

I hope that at this halfway stage in the championship that something will seriously change to ensure that driving standards increase (dramatically) and that people get back to start feeling the love again....

I guess it's because of summer, people don't bother going inside to play LFS, they spend their time mostly outside I guess, but that's only my thought.
i think you could be right tbh, i think we need a thread were everyone can make some suggestions about improving participation
the thing is, around 10 people signed up here are doing the MMS cup, and not even notifying us of missing races.
Just so you know, a lot of people did inform me that they could not make this round.

We also have a few signups who have not attended any session so far, and I don't expect them to start now with the season half over.
UFBR was a real hit last year. After CTRA turned off their servers this was the only place where you could race that easy-to-drive-always-competitive-car. I really don't know why you added UF1 and UFR (even after ppl voted for UFBR only).
My opinion is that you had to stick to the winning ticket and that is UFBR.

You will see what will happen on next race. You will have another full grid. But Im not sure that will be the case on race after.
We tried to introduce something different, everyone and his dog was whinging that LFS is just the same combos over and over.
Quote from Fuse5 :the thing is, around 10 people signed up here are doing the MMS cup, and not even notifying us of missing races.

The thing is, that IMHO you made a big mistake while setting up the calendar. Saturday and Sunday were first and second on this poll, but the week-end is also the momment where people is the less susceptible to turn-out, because of
  • social obligations
  • other leagues.
These two days won the poll, but personnally I don't give a big credit to this poll because
  • Some of the voters didn't even signed-up(even if they voted for Sunday !), which show that their interrest on this thing was low(they probably saw the poll, and said to themselves "Oh, I'm allowed to vote, so let's go !"), and
  • I guess that some people voted for Saturday and/or Sunday because they knew that this was their only chance to take part to one or two races, and IMO these people aren't really representative in front the ones that want to put a real involvement in these series.
Then, I'm also quite saddened by the fact that you made the calendar clashing with the TBO Challenge, and numerous times with the MMSC. Personnally, setting the calendar without taking care at what is going on elsewhere, for me, can proove two things :
  • that you don't have a big knowledge of what is going on around(let's face it, this is not the case, as the organisators are from Concept Racing, which remins one of the most prestigious team in LFS' world)
  • that you thought that the TBOC and the MMSC weren't big enough comparing to the UFRC to negociate with them to see one of the two event clashing delayed
So, let's say that we can already remove argument n°1 from the list. Back to argument n°2. At the momment of you decided to make the races of your own series clashing with the MMSC after the MMSC announced their own dates, you decided to enter in a situation of competition, so your job is to attract the biggest amount of racers to keep your league alive(I guess some people won't like this vision of the thing as LFS should be a friendly place where you can have fun and relax yourself, and I agree with them), so I quite disagree with Fuse, the racers shouldn't feel the obligation to apologise for their non-attendance, but it's rather the job of the organisators to invent something new to attract them back to your series. After all, you should forget that it is still you that put them(and... yeah, me also) in this situation.




Also, I quite agree with Neshaz, it was also a mistake to make "mixture of the UFs", as you say, because :
  • the racers wanted to have another UF-BR season according to this vote.
  • The UF-BR is a very easy car to drive, almost everyone can jump on it and set a competitive time
  • The Season 2 was a success(even if it had a poor(20-25 racers, which is still very good) turn-out in the few last rounds).
  • You can't say that the UFR isn't driven anymore, the Fun Racing League used it the last May and they said that they will probably use it again on August
I hope this post remains constructive, and I wish the best possible future to you, I'm quite sad to see that your league isn't working as much as you want.


Regards
A quite pissed Yann, because he can't be in 2(3 with the SR's FOX cup) places in the same time, and because of that, can't attend to 1(or 2) of the best leagues existing here.
I do agree with your post to a certain extent.
There are so many leagues going on, that it is almost impossible to schedule all of them on different times ( I feel for you on that point, as I know you attend as many races/leagues as physically possible ).

Quote :that you thought that the TBOC and the MMSC weren't big enough comparing to the UFRC to negociate with them to see one of the two event clashing delayed

Huh?

Quote :so I quite disagree with Fuse, the racers shouldn't feel the obligation to apologise for their non-attendance, but it's rather the job of the organisators to invent something new to attract them back to your series. After all, you should forget that it is still you that put them(and... yeah, me also) in this situation.

I didn't refer to apologizing in any way, this is your imagination. The calendar doesn't matter, who decided which first, because our signups opened 2 weeks earlier. Only the drivers who signed up here and then there should be shaken a finger at, nothing more.
Its their responsibility to make sure that they don't sign up every where and then only drive one of those leagues.
On Sunday we lost 2 or 3 guys to the MMS, not really significant.
Even still, we changed our format to attempt to finish in time so that people could race in both. The MMS organisers failure to announce the correct start time meant that in fact, there was no chance of this.

The original UF1 league clashed with RSSC, I picked RSSC.
The Baby-R league clashed with the DMR 1hr races, I had to miss them as an admin presence is obviously required.
I had to pull out of a rather excellent LX league because it clashed with the STCC.
I'm sure there's more...

Leagues can and do frequently clash.
It is up to competitors to choose which they wish to compete in when this happens. I vote we both ban anyone who signed up for the 2 of them (joke).
Quote from Fuse5 :
Huh?

Just a bit of non-sence. I don't really feel the want to re-correct the whole thing, so you can ignore it.

Quote :I didn't refer to apologizing in any way, this is your imagination.

TBH it seems that it is, yep. Next time I'll re-read the posts twice before posting

Quote :The calendar doesn't matter, who decided which first, because our signups opened 2 weeks earlier. Only the drivers who signed up here and then there should be shaken a finger at, nothing more.
Its their responsibility to make sure that they don't sign up every where and then only drive one of those leagues.

I quite disagree with that, it's actually quite difficult to organise ourselves when you don't even know when you should be free, and if signing-up somewhere will compromise your sign-up you made elsewhere.

Quote from Bean0 :On Sunday we lost 2 or 3 guys to the MMS, not really significant.
Even still, we changed our format to attempt to finish in time so that people could race in both. The MMS organisers failure to announce the correct start time meant that in fact, there was no chance of this.

The original UF1 league clashed with RSSC, I picked RSSC.
The Baby-R league clashed with the DMR 1hr races, I had to miss them as an admin presence is obviously required.
I had to pull out of a rather excellent LX league because it clashed with the STCC.
I'm sure there's more...

Leagues can and do frequently clash.
It is up to competitors to choose which they wish to compete in when this happens. I vote we both ban anyone who signed up for the 2 of them (joke).

Yeah... I don't share your opinion but I don't think there's a need to argue on that because it wouldn't be productive(It would end in a "Yes, leagues can clash" ; "No, they can't" after we run out of arguments, and I don't see many arguments appropriated fo that discussion)



E : Once again, the precedent post was just my sincere feeling about the whole thing. It isn't meant to be the pure truth.
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