I noticed people are making skins with and without tobacco sponsors why is this if F1 have banned tobacco advertising? why dont they just do the non tobacco version (latest)? or is this just in the EU?

It's not happened everywhere yet. There's still some on-going debate with the banning of tobacco advertising, but it will all be phased out eventually.

The skins people are making are fine..

People make the skins they want to make . . . if they want tobacco on their cars thats just fine by me . . . Now, if they paint their car red and stick prancing horses all over it that is another matter. That is just wrong. That I deem vulgar and offensive . . .

Ah ok thanks.

How long until we loose alchohol advertising? 10 years?

Probably around the same time i get this bloody bypass built through my village... never..

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How long until we loose alchohol advertising? 10 years?

NEVER!!!!! *takes another sip of his highly advertised beer* AHHHH!

Hmm, maybe when I get home I'll make a crackpipe skin, that would be cool. J/K.

Do you know alcohol is way more harmfull and addictive then canabis? But still most country's have a no go on canabis. And this is all due to our culture and has nothing to do with facts... a bit like they burned people for think the earth was round instead of flat

I noticed what nationality you are Auch enne , but i agree partly with what you are saying, although i dont smoke canabis anymore as i really dont enjoy the effects like i use to as a youngen

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I noticed people are making skins with and without tobacco sponsors why is this if F1 have banned tobacco advertising? why dont they just do the non tobacco version (latest)? or is this just in the EU?

It is down to the regulations of each individual host country if they deem it acceptable or not to have the tobacco sponsors plastered over the cars. However, there is still such strong brand association that the words themselves are actually no longer needed, just the colours and shapes are enough, look at the Marlboro and Lucky Strike liveries, the banning of the word really doesn't achieve very much, imo.

Racing will be banned all together in the future no doubt by tree hugging environmentalist's

Hehehe, I actually would like to see racing done with enviroment friendly cars, like electro/solar/hydro orwhatever cars... not like the endu type thing in Aussie but on normal track with lap times and gaps etc etc.. think it would be a big boost to the technologie and a big boost to public interest.. oil is running out, and more and more people have astma or what not due to polution..

Or maybe races with a set limit of fuel.. say 10 liter for 1,5 hours of racing orso Who can get the fastest with the least use of fuel

Exactly right..it is running out, and until the consumers realize this, nothing will change.People are blissfully unaware of the inevitable changes to come, or they just don't care...just look at the popularity of SUV's.
No doubt the people in power are concerned, but of course they can't make legislations that may inconvenience or even anger their voters - they might not get re-elected.That's the problem with modern politics imo..alot of powerhungry individuals, and very little idealism.

Thoughts from a totally mental tree-hugger

on topic (I think) : Banning tobacco ads and not banning alcohol seems to be a bit of a double standard.

Hell, im all up for banning boring motorsports like Nascar.. We'll say it's the gas crisis thingy...

*hides*

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Hehehe, I actually would like to see racing done with enviroment friendly cars, like electro/solar/hydro orwhatever cars... not like the endu type thing in Aussie but on normal track with lap times and gaps etc etc.. think it would be a big boost to the technologie and a big boost to public interest.. oil is running out, and more and more people have astma or what not due to polution..

Or maybe races with a set limit of fuel.. say 10 liter for 1,5 hours of racing orso Who can get the fastest with the least use of fuel

Who's to say that electric/solar/hydro IS environmentally friendly. Don't believe the propaganda from governments and enviromentalists, do some proper research of the relevant topics and you'll find each of those technologies above has MAJOR limitations and could cause it's own type of environemental damage. I'm not saying burning coal or oil is better, but I hate this blind 'it's better for the environment because they said so' attitude.

As far as the car sponsors go, I have seen a lot of people who like to do historic car skins. Like the Gary Player Special, and the old Marlboro Ferrari skin. You can't go back in time and whipe the tobbacco sponsors off of those cars, so why not show them on a skin now?

Agreed Tristan, pollution was FAR worse in the old days of coal-power with major European cities choking in a smog of coal-dust and sulphorous fumes, when they sent little children down mines and up chimneys. Ha, made me the man i am today.
I don't believe cities in general have ever been cleaner over the last 200 years than they are today, so don't get drawn into that old pollution argument

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As far as the car sponsors go, I have seen a lot of people who like to do historic car skins. Like the Gary Player Special, and the old Marlboro Ferrari skin. You can't go back in time and whipe the tobbacco sponsors off of those cars, so why not show them on a skin now?

JOHN Player Special

Now go and stand in the corner :dunce:

LOL! Hallen iis a golf fan obviously.

About the hydrogen, as I understand it, it's not all what it's been hyped up to be.Making the hydrogen requires energy - which will usually be made from fossil fuels, so there's no real environmental gain.You'd probably be moving the pollution to remote powerplants instead, so while it has no real advantage, I imagine it would be very beneficial in heavily polluted cities.

Still huge inefficiencies too in converting one form of power to another, albeit cleaner one. Say it takes 10,000 kj of energy to generate 4000 kj of hydrogen power, it's an expensive way to operate - but environmental benefits all come at a price. Not convinced this is much of a benefit in the big picture.

Quote from whitey6272 :

Probably around the same time i get this bloody bypass built through my village... never..

i thought a bypass waas supposed to go around not through somewhere

hence the phrase "to bypass something"

yawn

Quote from Bean0 :

JOHN Player Special

Now go and stand in the corner :dunce:

:dunce: :tired: :sorry: :uglyhamme
Too early here, must have coffeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Thanks for the correction. But you get my point... right?