Quote from Glenn67 :

Does lambchop still do LFS or has he moved on to other?

I've always jumped around after finding GT legends and Richard burns rally but after I found LFS I have always considered it my "home" sim. Kind of like a home field in foot sports.

Quote from void :

its me again...

- "race length now laps based" gives a great advantage to gtr´s ... Tbo´s need about 10 minutes more to complete the race. Thats fine and a real "challenge" but a bit unfair when tbo´s driving alone on track..should be 30 minutes for all cars!

Not sure what you mean here.
A fx. 19 KY2 laps are 19 KY2 laps for both the GTR´s and the TBO´s. True, it takes you longer to finish the race in a TBO and you prob. won´t win against a GTR car. Points wise you´ll get max. points for a TBO class win, regardless your server finishing position, I got told.

Quote from void :

- vote-restart didn´t work. After 20-30 minutes of serious practicing (quali is disbabled, only god knows why) five racers tried to restart a race... "all restart votes canceled" -> so all reacers left the server.. Just great!

A quali session had disadvantages and there is only races now on the server.
Just one of you racers should have finished a race yesterday (work with pitstops if you´re on a quali set) and the next new race would have started automatically.
Quali and restart votes will stay disabled in order to make sure races will be finished and not destroyed by any votes.

Quote from R.Kolz :

A quali session had disadvantages and there is only races now on the server.
Just one of you racers should have finished a race yesterday (work with pitstops if you´re on a quali set) and the next new race would have started automatically.
Quali and restart votes will stay disabled in order to make sure races will be finished and not destroyed by any votes.

So if people are using the race to practice (and pitting before 30 minutes) someone has to do the full 30 minutes in order to get a restart? And if people are still practicing and one person does happen to go 19 straight laps, they're forced to restart? No wonder the server is empty every time I check.


If someone is lapping by themselves and gets 10 or 15 minutes through, then a few other people join and they all want to actually race (you know, from a standing start, not exiting the pit lane and just going) they have to wait 15-20 minutes?

You may have solved whatever disadvantage qualifying has ( ) but you've created a needlessly frustrating server setup in the process that pretty much discourages people to stay on it.

Quote from pik_d :

So if people are using the race to practice (and pitting before 30 minutes) someone has to do the full 30 minutes in order to get a restart?.

Yes.

Quote from pik_d :

And if people are still practicing and one person does happen to go 19 straight laps, they're forced to restart?.

Yes. It´s a server for races, not practising.

Quote from pik_d :

No wonder the server is empty every time I check..

It has probably to do with your timezone as well. 15-22 GMT is a good time to join.

Quote from pik_d :

If someone is lapping by themselves and gets 10 or 15 minutes through, then a few other people join and they all want to actually race (you know, from a standing start, not exiting the pit lane and just going) they have to wait 15-20 minutes?.

Yes.

Quote from pik_d :

You may have solved whatever disadvantage qualifying has ( ) but you've created a needlessly frustrating server setup in the process that pretty much discourages people to stay on it.

Maybe for some people, not all of them. Fortunately, there are more servers arround for these people.

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Just see your quote 1 & 4, where you, it looks to me, ask for the restart vote being enabled but in quote 2 you then don´t want to have it.
Disabled restart and quali vote makes sure that ongoing and possible good races will see its end. End of Story.
If a group of racers joins and none of them is willing to "sacrify" themselves doing a little 14-18 laps in order to get Airio in it´s normal circle of race restarts, then it might be the wrong server for them anyways. Remember it´s a server for ppl. wanting longer races, not a sprint race server.
You see, the best solution would be to have admins 24/7 on it and make all the various changes a joined racer on this server could ever wish for. This can´t be done and we need to have compromises at certain points.
We automate the server with the help of Airio as good as we think it can be done, of course it won´t fit all of the LFS racers and we didn´t believe it to be the case. On my evenings I have on this very server good races. All I need is a fast guy in front and another one behind me to make this interesting. I don´t need 28 racers on the server all the time.

Finally:
Here two postings of today, not related to our server:
"This server is in serious need of admins who are not afraid to use the kick button regularly to get rid of the idiots runing everyone's races. Get some or start doing this!"
Starting next week, the better 105% WR feature will become enabled once more.
"**** is one heck of an idiot.
I was doing **** practice stint when he comes on 47 mins into my stint, and then restarts the race."
Additionally, the kick/ban vote will become disabled again.

I hope this made things more clear.

I completely agree, That is why I was on the server. So I could finish the laps but also have the chance of maybe racing someone.

If i just wanted to do laps I would play single player. But if i just wanted to race I would get on a populated server.

Like mentioned, if someone can't wait for the next round, then its probably the wrong server for them.

I would like to mention that only in sim-racing can you get non-stop races that are 5 laps long. Even sprint races are a bit longer than 5-9 minutes long. Not only that but there would naturally be other races that are longer than 5-9 minutes long in between your individual heats.

So you would really be waiting about 25-45 minutes or more between heats depending on how many classes there are other than yours.

Those numbers are based off of a kart club in the U.S. and are very under-attended. In other nations waiting could be longer.

Quote from R.Kolz :

I hope this made things more clear.

This post makes me want to scoop my brains out with a shovel.