The online racing simulator
GTPSP is pretty good I agree. 800 cars is a lie, a different name does not make it a different car, and 90% of them were in GT4, there are very few new models. Excellent array of tracks and really quite brilliant handling (given the control limitations), super smooth 60fps and replays that are "squint and it's real" good. Of course the textures are washed out, but it's much more fun than GT4 ever was imo.
Quote from sinbad :GTPSP is pretty good I agree. 800 cars is a lie, a different name does not make it a different car, and 90% of them were in GT4, there are very few new models. Excellent array of tracks and really quite brilliant handling (given the control limitations), super smooth 60fps and replays that are "squint and it's real" good. Of course the textures are washed out, but it's much more fun than GT4 ever was imo.

You're forgetting the awesome damage model..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... p;feature=player_embedded
Quote from Gills4life :It has already been made clear to anyone that can read that this is an incomplete version of the damage model that will be in the final product.

I'll believe it when I see it...PD did say that damage was going to be a part of GT5P and it wasn't...PD has said a lot of things which end up being a fallacy...
Quote from Homeless_Drunk :I'll believe it when I see it...PD did say that damage was going to be a part of GT5P and it wasn't...PD has said a lot of things which end up being a fallacy...

LOL WUT? PD never said that damage WILL MOST DEFINITELY FOR CERTAIN be a part of GT5P. They said that they were considering implementing it into one of the spec upgrades. It's not PD's fault that you interpret possibilities as certainties.
Source!

Stelvio Pass possibly in Gran Turismo 5

WOW someone had the eye to spot that out! I applaud that person.
Quote from dawesdust_12 :Forza 3 only has (from wiki) about 400 cars. GT PSP has 800~ cars.

With less than half the poly count and interior made out of black cardboards.
Do you honestly expect the PSP to render anything more? You're comparing a handheld with the power of maybe a PS2. I'd take the cutouts to a bumper cam any day as it atleast semi-simulates what you'd see.

Whatever, you're comparing apples to oranges. A portable console to something that might be semi-powerful but destined to fail soon.
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Quote from dawesdust_12 : Whatever, you're comparing apples to oranges. A portable console to something that might be semi-powerful but destined to fail soon.

I am not getting into that discussion, but I do have to point this out. My friend does this all the time. It bothers me a lot. He goes on arguing on one side then after long unclear statements on his side he switches sides and says he was for that side from the beginning, and tries to turn the tables when he realizes his argument is not solid. Its quite diabolical to watch when not receiving. I've have learned to catch it before it gets too far. it It is not happening this time

Quote from dawesdust_12 :Not really. Shift feels.. gross. GT PSP feels better than even GT5:P.

Not to mention it has more content than Forza... must suck to have a portable console have more than a 360 game.

You were comparing apples to oranges and got reply's. Not the other way around.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :Forza 3 only has (from wiki) about 400 cars. GT PSP has 800~ cars.

And this is the continuation of the apples and oranges comparison.

Sorry its just a peeve of mine

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I'm comparing apples to oranges making apples shit-kick oranges in a David Vs Goliath type battle, then they come back and go "OH LULZ GOLIATH JUST KILLED DAVID BY BEING A ****ING GIANT!".
LOL you succeeded! funny stuff.
Maybe funny to you, but nobody gives a shit about your pet peeves.
Quote from dawesdust_12 :Do you honestly expect the PSP to render anything more? You're comparing a handheld with the power of maybe a PS2. I'd take the cutouts to a bumper cam any day as it atleast semi-simulates what you'd see.

Whatever, you're comparing apples to oranges. A portable console to something that might be semi-powerful but destined to fail soon.

Keep diggin fella that hole must be getting mighty deep by now
I would think so, but really to me, it looks like everyone else is so deep, I might as well redeclare myself to be level ground.

Maybe it's just the optimistic side of me.

Nah, I wouldn't say optimism, more like delusion
Delusion is simply genius before everyone else gains the appropriate knowledge.

People likely think physicists are delusional but look at what they know.

There's that smiley again...
Come on guys, you really all should know better than to feed that troll. You're just giving him the attention he so desperately craves! It's obvious the boy's got issues. You should steer well clear of engaging in any kind of discussion with him. Leave him be in his own little world.

dawesdust_12: Just one thing about Forza having only a little over 400 cars. Remember that you can do seperate drivetrain and multiple engine swaps for many cars. Which let's you build new cars yourself as changing engine or drivetrain changes car characteristic upside down. Not to mention changing engine aspirations as well. Sudennly 400 becomes a much bigger number. But if you don't find that kind of stuff fun, then I guess it's only a bit over 400 for you.

Going back on topic, will there be engine/drivetrain swaps in gt5?
Dustin, your seriously misguided!!

Content isnt cars, who cares about cars
Content isnt tracks, who cares about tracks

Content is about stickers and body kits or whatever shite they offer in Forza 3 aka 'The worlds greatest simulator EVAH!!'
Just like Next-Gen consoles are about VGA ports, DVD drives, none-standard HDD's, and all the other crap they put in there because rather than use Next-Gen hardware they could rush something out that couldnt cool itself properly and scratched its customers discs, but it made it all worthwhile cos it could get a year headstart on its rival.
THAT my friend is what next-gen is all about, rushing out last years tech and worrying about the consequences 2 years down the line, around the same sort of time you admit you knew about all those issues when you released it.


Anyway, can we please stick to the topic of this thread, its a Forza Lovin thread, lets not spoil it with people talking about GT ey, thats just unthinkable... which is exactly what Microsoft said about producing a fault-free 360
Quote from kamkorPL :dawesdust_12: Just one thing about Forza having only a little over 400 cars. Remember that you can do seperate drivetrain and multiple engine swaps for many cars. Which let's you build new cars yourself as changing engine or drivetrain changes car characteristic upside down. Not to mention changing engine aspirations as well. Sudennly 400 becomes a much bigger number. But if you don't find that kind of stuff fun, then I guess it's only a bit over 400 for you.

Going back on topic, will there be engine/drivetrain swaps in gt5?

In GT5 we can change the colours of our cars, meaning our 800 goes to about 100430843928402384902, which suddenly becomes a much bigger number!!!

And yes, my understanding is the hop-up aspect of past is back in there, so you'll be able to tweak certain aspects of it all while still maintaining the main aspects. Dunno what F3 offers, but i doubt theres other engines you can throw in them, just power increases, weight reduction, flywheels, clutches, gear packs and whatever else there used to be in there.
Counting colours doesn't count - both games have that option. But FM3 does have flip paint options, so we can haz 2 culurs at once!1111!!!11loleleven

I still don't see why everyone feels the need to make out like one is better than the other. They're both good, and they both do very different things. I object to either game claiming hundreds of cars when what they actually mean is several paint schemes or power ratings per car model. I mean FM3 has about 11 Carerra's and a half dozen Ferrari 430s - that's only two cars, not a dozen

I like the car porn element of GT5 - the models are superb, and the environments are stunning. I love the tuning and painting aspect of Forza. Can't we all just get along?
Quote from Dajmin :Can't we all just get along?

Unfortunately that seems to be too much to ask on these forums

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