Seems like Ferrari International Assistance will keep going...

From Autoport.com

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Todt elected new president of the FIA

Jean Todt is the new FIA president after comfortably winning Friday's election in Paris.

The former Ferrari team principal had been up against former world rally Ari Vatanen for the top job within motor racing's governing body.

Todt got 135 votes compared to Vatanen's 35. There were 12 abstentions or invalid votes.

The entire voting procedure was supervised by an external Huissier de Justice, the French state-appointed public witness.

The victory means he will succeed outgoing president Max Mosley, who made it clear from the outset that he wanted Todt to win the vote.

Crap

Well that WAS going to happen. Vatanen never displayed any real substance to encourage people away from Todt. he played the 'friend of the fans' card and it was neevr going to wash with the FIA voters. Is Todt the best man? Who knows, and the reality is it won't make ALL that much difference either way

Haha Nice. Pwned him with 100 votes

It's I'm a Ferrari fan, otherwise I probably didn't like it either... Think he'll do a good job though.

In this case it isn't hard to look better than the predecessor so I think in couple of years no one will remember Todt was a Ferrari chief. Altough I would have liked to see Vatanen.

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If it were up to the BBC, Vatanen would have won by a landslide. I didn't see a single article relating to Todt in the last 6 months!

Its a known that Mosely has been bribing and blackmailing national motor clubs, so its pretty inevitable really.

The fact that there are so many people saying they want Vatanen in, and he isn't shows that the election was corrupt and that the president of the FIA does not represent their members who put their time and money into the FIA.

You can have officials observing the elections, but they can't stop Mosely bribing or threatening people to get Todt in, both of which he has tried.

Anyway, I wont mind so long as Todt makes changes for the better, although I reckon that Todt will keep the status quo, and Mosely will probrably just use him as his glove puppet.

Oh no, not Todt, this will be bad

Quote from aroX123 :

Oh no, not Todt, this will be bad

Give him a chance.

Of course he won, the man is just better. Looking forward to new age of racing.

Quote from JPeace :

I Think it will be a great new era in formula one, with someone who knows somthing about the sport.

i think people saying that ferrari will win every appeal, well if that does happen, then he will get thrown out immediatly, because it would be so blatent.

Its been very blatant for a while, but we had to wait for Mosely to step down out of his own will.

Well overall the FIA is not a fair or democratic establishment and really should be restructured or completely replaced.

Quote from 5haz :

Well overall the FIA is not a fair or democratic establishment and really should be restructured or completely replaced.

eerrr... what?

Far as I know if you don't like the FIA don't race them. No one forces anyone to race with the FIA!

Hah you are so naiive.

The MSA/FIA force me to, seeing as they have complete power over what goes down at every racing circuit in the UK, I cant race anywhere without a license from them. And I don't have the time and money to race abroad or build a racing circuit plus an organisational body in my backyard.

In Europe, the FIA has a monopoly (a chance to use your favourite word Intrepid!). At present if I want to race in the UK I have to hold an FIA license and all the track events are FIA licesned, there are no other choices.

I pay my £50 odd to the MSA/FIA for my National B racing license, I expect to be represented by its leader, seeing as I contribute to keeping the whole thing running. Hopefully Todt will represent the wishes of the FIA members (and members of various national motorsports clubs) and do some good for motorsports unlike his predecessor.

But I can't achieve change all by myself, anyone like to join me for the revolution?

You say that people have no choice when they do, and say they do when they don't, you seem to live in some sort of alternate reality.

I think that for now he isn't bad choice, but we all know how are ppl changing with pure power in their hands, or when seeing a lot of money. The question is, will he survive or will he turn into another *****?

The King is dead. Long live the King !.

Quote from 5haz :

But I can't achieve change all by myself, anyone like to join me for the revolution?

Why don't you campaign with fellow racers to start your own licensing body or are you unwilling to take that risk? So you want the MSA/FIA to take all the risk away from you but you still want to moan about them when you are unwilling to take on the risk yourself?

As far as I am aware there is not a government requirement that you are licensed with the MSA to race.

I know it certainly isn't the case with kart racing as I have raced in non-MSA events myself and quite a few circuits signed up for the FOTA breakaway. I also believe there's some non-MSA run what you brung drag racing events out there too.

Quote from Intrepid :

Why don't you campaign with fellow racers to start your own licensing body or are you unwilling to take that risk? So you want the MSA/FIA to take all the risk away from you but you still want to moan about them when you are unwilling to take on the risk yourself

Could quite easily say the same with you and the BBC/Welfare system.

Quote from 5haz :

Could quite easily say the same with you and the BBC/Welfare system.

No you can't. the BBC is a publicly funded entity and to access TV broadcasting BY LAW you're required to own a TV licence. As far as I know you are NOT REQUIRED by law to have an MSA licence to race. Notice the difference?

You complain about the FIa and how you're forced to own a licence yet unwilling to do anything about when you have a perfectly good opportunity to do so. no laws are stopping you.

Last time I checked you don't need an MSA licence to race. it's certainly not the case with #run what u brung' drag racing, and karting. I can't see it being different with car racing.

Quote from Intrepid :

You complain about the FIa and how you're forced to own a licence yet unwilling to do anything about when you have a perfectly good opportunity to do so. no laws are stopping you.

Quite right, but a lack of time any money is. Again I could say the same for you, so all this is ultimately fuitle, but at the end of the day there is choice in British television and not in motorsports.

Now I'm fine with that, so long as the one choice I have is not a shit one, hopefully Todt can do something about that.

You're like a spambot stuck on repeat, infact you probrably are one.

Quote from Intrepid :

Last time I checked you don't need an MSA licence to race. it's certainly not the case with #run what u brung' drag racing, and karting. I can't see it being different with car racing.

'Proper' motorsport basically then.

Quote from 5haz :

Quite right, but a lack of time any money is. Again I could say the same for you, so all this is ultimately fuitle, but at the end of the day there is choice in British television and not in motorsports.

Yes there is a free choice, unlike the TV where you have to pay to access that 'choice'. The opportunity is there for you to do/create something, but as you've admitted you're too lazy to do anything about it. So end it there.

Huh? Race licenses aren't free you know. If you had the slightest clue about what you were on about then you would realise that.

You have a stick so far up your arse about various stuff but I don't see you doing anything more than disrupting threads.

That would probrably be because you're a troll, why the admins haven't moved you on to pastures new yet I don't know (seeing as they dont seem to be so keen on your either). Either that or you're deluded, perhaps a bit of both.

Why don't you try trolling a Kartoring forum? You might fit in there better.

Quote from 5haz :

Huh? Race licenses aren't free you know.

MSA Race Licences aren't free, and I never said they were. But you are free to race without a licence or under another governing body if you so wish.

Quote from 5haz :

Huh? Race licenses aren't free you know.

I don't see you doing anything more than spouting the same complaints over and over again out of context in every thread you can find. You have a stick so far up your arse about various stuff but I don't see you doing anything more than disrupting threads.

Like I said before you're clearly a troll, why the admins haven't moved you on to pastures new yet I don't know. Either that or you're deluded, perhaps a bit of both.

Why don't you try trolling a Kartoring forum? You might fit in there better.

lol can't defend your point of view and thus resort to throwing insults... you win! Well done

Quote from Intrepid :

MSA Race Licences aren't free, and I never said they were. But you are free to race without a licence or under another governing body if you so wish.

Yeah, try it.

Quote from Intrepid :

lol can't defend your point of view and thus resort to throwing insults... you win! Well done

T'is not an insult, t'is an accurate description of your disruptive behavior (you've ruined this thread, and quite a lot of others), your aparrent isolation from reality and your hypocracy.

Not only that but you post like a broken record player, the same stuff in every thread, the same subjects brought up, the same annoying use of bolds and large writing and lots of exclamation marks.

You called me lazy, which I could take offense to, I'm not that sad though.

And the worst thing about it, the admins will do nothing, they only hands out infractions to the people who do not suffer you gladly enough. The only reason you're not on my ignore list is because you give me an opportunity to practise my english/typing/suffering idiots skills.