Quote from 5haz :

Yeah, try it.

Yes, I have. I have already had a meeting with a circuit owner discussing an opportunity next year. The bills and responsibilities are quite vast.

To be bluntly honest I don't give a stuff about Kartoring, unless this has anything to do with motorsport then don't go telling me what I should do.

The bottom line is that at present the FIA is the only person you can go to to enter car races on circuits in this country, whether you have the chance to set up something new or not, the fact stands that at this present moment the FIA do have a monopoly of the market, now will you please leave me alone?

Its funny how you change your way of thinking from thread to thread, wherever it suits you.

How can I be sure you're even telling the truth? You have a track record of making stuff up.

Quote from 5haz :

The bottom line is that at present the FIA is the only person you can go to to enter car races on circuits in this country, whether you have the chance to set up something new or not, the fact stands that at this present moment the FIA do have a monopoly.

Its funny how you change your way of thinking from thread to thread, wherever it suits you.

How can I be sure you're even telling the truth? You have a track record of making stuff up.

You can't understand the difference between a private enterprise and a public funded company. They are very different things. It's very basic economics.

If you truly believe there is a monopoly file a complaint. If you truly believe there is something wrong there are systems and laws there to 'protect' (debatable) you.

You want me to list the my budget and responsibilities of holding a motorsport event? All the ambulance staff, insurance, marshals etc...??

And please, what have I ever 'made up'!?

Quote from Intrepid :

You can't understand the difference between a private enterprise and a public funded company. They are very different things. It's very basic economics.

You don't understand the meaning of a monopoly, it is when an organisations, regardless of wether it is publically funded or private, has complete control of the market.

Quote from Intrepid :

If you truly believe there is a monopoly file a complaint.

Take your own advice, instead of hijacking threads. :doh:

I am merely pointing out that there is one, I never said I was opposed to it, it just want John Todt to do a good job and listen to his people, but you come steaming in here and hijack the thread, as per usual, just go away, if you play such an important role at your local go kart track, why do have so much time to be an arse?

Do you ever talk about anything else, do you bore people down the pub with this talk? My god you are dull.

Well you didn't answer my question of "what did I make up"? Which is interesting.

Government monopolies and private monopolies are too very different things. If you believe FIA hold a monopoly over car racing in the UK. Either start your own race car series to combat it or make a complaint to the Office Of Fair Trade.

Simples

Quote from Intrepid :

Well you didn't answer my question of "what did I make up"? Which is interesting.

Your definition of monopoly is certainly made up for a start.

Quote from Intrepid :

Government monopolies and private monopolies are too very different things. If you believe FIA hold a monopoly over car racing in the UK. Either start your own race car series to combat it or make a complaint to the Office Of Fair Trade.

Simples

Must I repeat myself? There is a monopoly but I am NOT opposed to it, I'm perfectly fine with the FIA being the single authority over motorsport, I just want the FIA to do a good job of it. Hopefully that will get through your (evidently) thick skull.

The last thing we need is more than one organisation, that creates a nightmare of different standards and regulations.

seems intrepid has a new friend!

for what its worth.....

this "election" was a forgone conclusion IMO.

mosley backed todt.....the fia backed ferrari, and now the new FIA president once worked at fer..............oh sh*t..you can work it out.

and just so im not against todt because of his past......i wouldnt have given the job to ron dennis either, because of his links to mclaren.

the best man lost.

I bet Intrepid argues with himself when there's no one else around...

Who can tell who is the best man at this stage? Give it a couple of years and we might see.

Jean Todt has a dodgy history as a boss, Vatanen has a history of being a fearless rally driver, but we haven't heard what hes like being the boss. For all we know Vatanen could've turned out to be just as nasty as Mosely.

Sweet..... Former Ferrari team manager as the new president..... This will be fun....

Instead of worrying about Todt's Ferrari background, I'd be more concerned about the fact that this keeps Mosley's crew in power while only figurehead changes.

Quote from GFresh :

I bet Intrepid argues with himself when there's no one else around...

as for the ol topic, it will be interesting... that's all i'm guna say

As some sci-fi film star once said.....

I gotta really bad feeling about this...........

This is really fun. Finally I think I've understood how Intrepid trolling techniques works.
It's simply based on three steps:

1.- Attack with any of the words mentioned by the trolled one
2.- Say something terribly obvious, but completely pointless
3.- Name karting whatever you can

Let's see some examples

Quote from Intrepid :

[attack]No you can't. the BBC is a publicly funded entity and to access TV broadcasting BY LAW you're required to own a TV licence. As far as I know you are NOT REQUIRED by law to have an MSA licence to race. Notice the difference?[/attack]

[obvious but pointless]You complain about the FIa and how you're forced to own a licence yet unwilling to do anything about when you have a perfectly good opportunity to do so. no laws are stopping you.[/obvious but pointless]

[karting time]Last time I checked you don't need an MSA licence to race. it's certainly not the case with #run what u brung' drag racing, and karting. I can't see it being different with car racing.[karting time]

One more just to be sure we have it

Quote from Intrepid :

[attack]Why don't you campaign with fellow racers to start your own licensing body or are you unwilling to take that risk? So you want the MSA/FIA to take all the risk away from you but you still want to moan about them when you are unwilling to take on the risk yourself?[/attack]

[obvious but pointless]As far as I am aware there is not a government requirement that you are licensed with the MSA to race. [/obvious but pointless]

[karting time]I know it certainly isn't the case with kart racing as I have raced in non-MSA events myself and quite a few circuits signed up for the FOTA breakaway. I also believe there's some non-MSA run what you brung drag racing events out there too.[/karting time]

Yeah, I know... nothing to do with the subject, but.... meh...

Quote from Intrepid :

Why don't you campaign with fellow racers to start your own licensing body or are you unwilling to take that risk? So you want the MSA/FIA to take all the risk away from you but you still want to moan about them when you are unwilling to take on the risk yourself?

As far as I am aware there is not a government requirement that you are licensed with the MSA to race.

I know it certainly isn't the case with kart racing as I have raced in non-MSA events myself and quite a few circuits signed up for the FOTA breakaway. I also believe there's some non-MSA run what you brung drag racing events out there too.

Al just because you have FIK doesn't mean you should bandy your wits here about the FIA.

Quote from RocksGt :

insert funniness here

hahahahaha well done

Think RocksGT just posted the best post i've seen in a long time :o

He managed to sum up what we were all thinking in a few lines where I failed in paragraphs of bitching.

Quote from RocksGt :

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You sir win.

Epic post award for the year 2009 goes to RocksGt

Well done

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