I actually like it! It is quite modern IMO.

Quote from JJ72 :

.... but those examples are really vastly different from each other.

No they're not. Factually they are not vastly different from each other. In terms of all the various shapes a car can (and historically have) take they are vastly more similar than they are dissimilar.

You're looking at it purely from the point of view of someone who is trained (and arguably obsessed because of that training) with the detail of car design.

The cars below are vastly different from each other, the new focus and astra are not.

http://z.about.com/d/4wheeldri ... D_Hon_64LandRover_1RR.jpg

http://www.slashgear.com/galle ... -coupe-Porsche-Cayman.jpg

Your perspective is no different from that of a person who is really "in to" a particular genre of music. e.g. someone in to Classical music will believe Mozart to be vastly diffrent to Beethoven. However, someone with no interest in Classical music and a preference for Hip-Hop will see those two composers as being similar. Similar because they are both of the same genre of music, specifically one that they don't have much knowlege of. However, in general objective terms looking at the whole spectrum of possible forms of music, Mozart and Beethoven are similar to each other. Far more similar than they are dissimilar. Exactly in the same way that in the general objective view of car design as a whole, (and the many various forms that cars can take), the Astra and Focus are also more similar than they are dissimilar.

similar


• adjective 1 of the same kind in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical.

Gotta love the Astra H 3 door better than these boring fords esp the VXR lol


I like mine but I think the new Astra is a bit fugly

Wow the new Astra certainly looks fine in that picture.

Oh, you edited it.

Thats the one thats being replaced! My one is the same as in the pic black as well! beauty innit

The new one is this one
here
http://media.photobucket.com/i ... /Astra/2010OpelAstra2.jpg

Sorry, I was making a bad joke because it came up with a 'no hotlinking' picture with a Corvette in it.

Quote from 5haz :

Sorry, I was making a bad joke because it came up with a 'no hotlinking' picture with a Corvette in it.

llol yeah i noticed :drink: after replied i changed the link n praised my lovely car :headbang::smileyrai:rally_dri

Yeah the newer Vauxhalls/Opels do seem like fine cars, I have an Astra too, a 1994 one in flame pink. At least I will when I pass my test hopefully in the nest couple of weeks.

Quote from 5haz :

Yeah the newer Vauxhalls/Opels do seem like fine cars, I have an Astra too, a 1994 one in flame pink. At least I will when I pass my test hopefully in the nest couple of weeks.

Pink??!!!

Yeah, they used to sell a lot of Vauxhalls in a shade of red they called flame red, then over time the colour would fade to pink, slashing the value of the car (hence why I could afford it). You've probrably seen a few 90s Astras and Corsas in that state before.

Quote from 5haz :

Yeah, they used to sell a lot of Vauxhalls in a shade of red they called flame red, then over time the colour would fade to pink, slashing the value of the car (hence why I could afford it). You've probrably seen a few 90s Astras and Corsas in that state before.

lol my dads 98 nissan primera red faded to pink in the sun lmao... then the rear suspension fell off

Quote from gezmoor :

...You're looking at it purely from the point of view of someone who is trained

Exactly, because the rest of the designers who I have to compete with and the chief designer are trained people as well. So that was my point: they will understand the design and appreciate any small difference, but the customer won't. So why that effort? That's something I'll ask to one of my teachers next day

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detail[/B] of car design..

Wrong. Details is the last part, when the 75% of the job is done. The key are the proportions.

Quote from gezmoor :

...You're looking at it purely from the point of view of someone who is trained

Exactly, because the rest of the designers who I have to compete with and the chief designer are trained people as well. So that was my point: they will understand the design and appreciate any small difference, but the customer won't. So why that effort? That's something I'll ask to one of my teachers next day

Quote from gezmoor :

(and arguably obsessed because of that training) with the detail of car design..

Wrong. Details is the last part, when the 75% of the job is done. The key are the proportions.