I found these two cameras for e-bay. Which one is a better deal?
The first one is new, i sorta like it better cause the extras are better than the 2nd one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS- ... meras?hash=item45f1661d02

This one is refurbished. not quite as much but $50USD cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS- ... meras?hash=item5190b8a45f

if anyone can help me find a better deal with a new canera, id love it.
it must be under $750, a canon, compatable with 58mm filters, be worth it if it doesnt come with cheap and free stuff :P

Well, the T2i is on its way (actually already being sold in some online stores). Its $800 without the lens though, so I doubt you want it/need it. With that though, the T1i should drop in price, so you may want to wait a little longer.

Surely, you want the T1i because of video right? If you don't need video, go for the XTi and save that money for a good lens.

yeah, i'm not thinking on ivesting on more lenses till a bit later... it's some expensive glass...
there was already a 50USD price drop.