Quote from tristancliffe :

Well, he can talk around most of the lap, even when pulling several gs, so can probably breathe to do that. But he confirmed that during heavy braking you can't breathe (on purpose). Which is what I said.

But you're still wrong about the forces bit.

I don't think I need to join a Renault club or go on Youtube. I can try it up to about 2.5g myself, and if I want to know about more I can ask family friends (which might include one or two ex (but not that long ago) F1 drivers) or people in EuroBOSS that I know, or perhaps my flying instuctor who was a successful military pilot?

i can too nearly 4.3 in apache heli
you are going for atpl?

"Maximum load factors are +3.5 g/-0.5 g; the positive load factor is reduced to 2.4 g with a 3,350-lb (1,520- kg) weapons load."

http://www.aviationphotoalbum. ... pache_Specifications.html

apache can do a barrel roll nearly with out fuels for 4.5g and pulls out with 3
its commonly used here in exercises when you ran into mountains just like here..

You'd be retarded to put any helicopter upside down near mountains.

Quote from Forbin :

You'd be retarded to put any helicopter upside down near mountains.

well dont tell that to me..hellenic air force sure know something more about the terrain here but after one accident we have with one apache loaded with some weird new missile (dont know the name it was a test for the air force)they banned most of the "dangerous" moves we have lost many of them at aegean sea because of that little problem with turkey

but how can you roll a Helicopter? You'd need to have two or more forces acting on it, which isn't possible according to you... It would rip the chopper apart...

@BBT : No, I spend my money on 'proper' leisure activities, so can't afford to rent something I might use once a month... If I don't go racing or flying then it costs me nothing.

I know, I'm just jealous because you do the real deal

Quote from tristancliffe :

but how can you roll a Helicopter? You'd need to have two or more forces acting on it, which isn't possible according to you... It would rip the chopper apart...

@BBT : No, I spend my money on 'proper' leisure activities, so can't afford to rent something I might use once a month... If I don't go racing or flying then it costs me nothing.

my lack at english dont let me explain what im think clearly
a loop has a single force
a barrel roll has two force yes but they cant act together i dont know how to explain it better (the moment when you change from the roll to do the loop simply the one force change to another you cant have them both in real life
unless ofc if we are speaking so many days about the foundamental 4
thurst drag weight gravity in that way i am very wrong

Quote from ball bearing turbo :

i know, i'm just jealous because you do the real deal

+1

I think the answer is that there is only one NET Force. That is true. However there are many different forces acting in different directions to cause that single net force on any given object. So both sides are correct in this case

Who would have guessed? However, I think giannhsgr1 is more correct. net force can only act in one direction, otherwise the object doesn't move or it breaks.

Quote from Shotglass :

quite easily trained by sitting in front of a mirror and trying to turn your head red...

Hilarious innuendo aside, the sitting part here is critical as I once found out... One second I was standing in front of the bathroom mirror trying this very trick and the next I woke up slumped behind the toilet.

My face was indeed red.

Yes, and I have been talking about components of that net force. Horizonatal and vertical relative to the chassis!!!

Quote from wien :

One second I was standing in front of the bathroom mirror trying this very trick and the next I woke up slumped behind the toilet.

viagra tends to have that effect on some people
helps with the head turning red part though

Quote from tristancliffe :

Yes, and I have been talking about components of that net force. Horizonatal and vertical relative to the chassis!!!

Is this a new field of study in obstetrics?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Yes, and I have been talking about components of that net force. Horizonatal and vertical relative to the chassis!!!

that is why I said you were both right.